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Jets 24th in NFL in rushing defense and 20th in rushing offense

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    THey can not consistently stop the run.
    They lost 42-0 to Jacksonville.

    The PATS need to use healthy doses of Dillon, Maroney and Faulk in the first half until they are ready be fed a steady diet of play action passes.

    In my mind, Dillon is the key to this game for the offense



    The Jets offense on the other hand is 17th with the pass and 20th with the run. The PATS need to take away their short passing game and put some heat on Pennington.
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    The Jets have allowed the fewest points in the NFL the 2nd half of the season (last 8 games since their bye week). They also have a sharp O-coordinator, a savvy QB, and 2 outstanding WRs. They are formidable, though I still believe the Pats will blow them out...
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    it doesnt matter because coach mangini have the blueprint of the pats offense
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    There's a reason that Football Outsiders' stats, which takes schedule into account, has The Jest ranked low - because THEY SUCK.

    FO rankings :

    19th overall, 21st weighted (weights in favor of last 8 games).
    Offense 15th (Weighted 16th), Defense, 27th (Weighted 28th)
    Their run defense is ranked 32nd

    THEY SUCK.
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    How bout dem Bronco's?
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    They've played crap. Their win against us was their only win of the year against a winning team.

    CRAP.
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    maybe the pats should totally surprise them and start cassel or go with the option or go run and shoot.
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    I think we could still beat them even if we let a senile 70 year old coach our team for the game.
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    let's just hope the pats don't trick themselves while trying to trick the jets. don't get fancy, still to meat and potatoes with a dash of tobasco
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    Stats dont mean anything. 20th rush offense? I recall Barlow running us over

    and no point in looking @ rush defense when u dont try to take advantage(example: Colts)
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    Sure they do. After a full season they give a very clear picture of the strengths and weaknesses of teams.
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    well, in that case, you'd think they'd have done a lot better than lose to us at home and have to stop us on the final drive of the worst game we played all year in order to beat us...it's simple, we pick up the blitzes (and, you don't think Eric--who I concede is effing brilliant--is going to get away with confusing a BB Offense twice in the same season do you?) and we have Dillon and Maroney both healthy and we win...not to say that it won't be a hard fought divisional contest, but we'll win.
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    Considering that we never used our running game fully during any regular game, our RBs should still have a lot of gas left in them. Maybe BB is saving those strategies to be unleashed during the playoffs...

    I think I am on to something...:)
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    No he doesn't, but you just keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel like you know something.

    Mangini was the beneficiary of poor Pats play and the Pats missing some key players such as Ty Warren, Stephen Neal and Rodney Harrison. Not to mention Seymour not being even 80% with his elbow.

    That poor play won't happen this time around.

    So, just sit back in Ft. Lauderdale and watch the play-offs like all the other football fans on the outside looking in.
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    And we still outgained The Jest by 50% even though everyone said we were outcoached. We weren't. We just f*cked up. Again, what's the odds of that happening in the playoffs against a poor team ?
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    i said they dont mean anything if u dont try to take advantage. like the Colts game..we didnt try to run enough when it was CLEARLY their biggest weakness
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    Early score prediction: Pats win 31-9. This will be a violent beat-down, a grudge match the Jets are not mentally or physically prepared for. All the motivational movies and lockerroom psychobabble from Man-Gina can't prepare a team for Warren, Seymour and Wilfork, the Dogs of War.
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    Barlow did no such thing. ButBarlow had 75 yards on 17 carries. That is ok. That is hardly "RUNNING OVER US." But, I think you also need to be reminded that Warren didn't play that game and Seymour was still pretty hurt.
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    I'm on record as wanting to run it down their throats but we do have a HoF QB too. Bottom line, run, pass, whatever . . . if we don't turn the ball over (like we haven't for 3 games), we win by 13 or more and are snoozing in the 4th quarter.
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    "Take away their short passing game"..............

    The only passing game they have is short......
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    The Jets do have one potentially dangeorus intangible, namely that Mangini has probably thought more about how to defeat BB and TB than BB has thought about how to beat Mangini and Pennington. Whatever weaknesses the Pats have, Mangini is sure to try to exploit with Belichickian precision. The bad thing about this is even if we win, Mangini may give our next opponent good ideas on how to gameplan against the Pats.
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    He's the 1st D guy to ever leave the Pats?
    Try Oakland for an earlier example.
    There are others.
    The Puffin Boogeyman is just that. Things change.
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    stats dont mean much now...their play calling has been creative with limited people which does give some problems..i think their OC brian schottenheimer has done quite a good job...
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    I agree. BB disciples know the inner workings of the Patriot machine, giving them an advantage other squads do not possess. Excluding the 1st 3 games of the season (when the offense was ineffective due to the sudden loss of the Twig) the Pats have scored an average of 30.1 points per game against teams not coached by BB disciples. In the 3 games against Miami/NYJ, the Pats have averaged 11.3 points per game. This was no coincidence. Still, the Jesters' victory was keyed by an unfortunate confluence of events: the Jesters got an extra week of rest and preparation coming off a late bye-week, the Pats came out shockingly flat after the demoralizing loss the Colts, the field conditions made it impossible for Brady to step up and torch the Jets' meagre pass rush, and the absence of Rodney and Warren left the D rudderless and lacking confidence. Since then, the Pats have had time to adjust, to stew over the loss, to learn to hate the Jets as much as BB, and I have every confidence that the team will wreck the Jets mercilessly in this game.
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    Agreed I could care less if they were 31st and against the run. They have been finding a way to win for a majority of the season. They took us out even though the play was extremely lucky. The WR landed on the CB and had the good sense to run to the end zone. I'm hoping after that play and Maurice Jones-Drew scamper for a TD we have learned our lesson about completing blocks and tackles.

    If we play 60 minutes of complete mentally tough football they don't have a chance. The Pats,especially the LB's have to tackle much better than they did the last game. That was the worst tackling I've seen in a long while. Many missed opportunitites in that game. \

    TBH though,I think it will be a route. I'm talking 30-13. Am I confident? Yes? Can we be beat? Sure,we turn the ball over 5 times like we did vs Denver last season we will be ****canned for sure. I'll tell you this though, Mangini will have his talk with those Jet's players and he will give his speech about having to be tougher and smarter than we are. Our players will have to force their will on the opponents. Especially the first half to let them know who is boss on that field.
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    So now the ball boy is a mad genius because he's got the Jets in the playoffs?:rolleyes:

    We'd better give the beer vendor a raise to make sure he doesn't take the Atlanta job.:D
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    4.4 ypc by Barlow against a #2 ranked run defense(was at the time)

    stats cant tell how it was..he was moving forward way too much
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    And the Pats were without their best run stopper on the D-line in Warren and Sanders still wasn't playing that well.
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    * Only if things go like the stats show. If the Patriots OL doesn't win the LOS battles, that Jets run D will look a lot better. The Patriots have to impose thier will at the LOS so those stats are realized. If stats won games they woudn't have to bother playing them

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