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    Obviously Crable has to win the time, but we are seriously lacking a pass rush right now. From what I saw in preseason of Crable, he looked damn good pass rushing. I'm expecting a lot more blitzing next week. I wanna see some Crable!
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    Play him when he's ready. Why is it so hard?
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    I'd like to see him inserted on those types of situational downs. Vrabel really looks as if he either lost a major step in the offseason or he's injured. Either way, he shouldn't be in the game most of time. Now, keep in mind that in the preseason, Crable was going up against scrubs. I have. But with that in mind, I wouldn't care if BB inserted Crable more often to rush the passer. God knows we need it this season. There is absolutely NO pass rush.
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    Not sure what they have to lose playing him. What will he pick up "bad habits" or something?

    Sometimes the best "learning" is done by actually getting out there.

    Vrabel is just asleep most of the time. It's like 11 on 10. He's 34, I think, or maybe jsut 33, but plays like 43.
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    what happened to crable? I haven't seen him playing lately.
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    I'm confused as to why their not playing their 3rd round pick as well. This is a perfect time to get Crable some minutes because the defense clearly needs an overhaul. However, I have said this defense needed an overhaul 3 years ago.
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    I think the problem here is, who do you sit if you activate Crable? He's not great on ST, so we'd take a hit there, or maybe you sit Guyton? It becomes a tough call.

    I'd love to see Crable myself, but I don't know who you sit.
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    As I've stated before, weeks back, Mike Vrabel is on the back 9. Let's get the young Crable some quality snaps BB instead of keeping him in street clothes every freakin week where we haven't generated a pass rush since week 14 of last season.
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    Vrabel would be the first most obvious answer there. Keep in mind if we put in Crable it is by no means an every down change.
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    Who do you sit? Did you get a load of Matt Slater last night ?
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    or play him when it cant get any worse...(and weve hit that with the pass rushing issue)...why is that so hard?
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    look, he didnt do anything amazing...

    but i dont think he sucked either...u dont always have something on the sides, u go straight for the longest gain...
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    Did you see our entire team last night?
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    Bring in Crabes, Vrabel has been weak...............
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    I am confused so a 270 AD and 265 lbs vrabel are having trouble due to the OL blocking so lets put a 245 lb LB in their to pass rush.

    now they can run right at him
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    Don't assume it can't get any worse - you don't know that. If the kid doesn't know the playbook, or isn't actually better than the players who are playing, it can get worse.

    You get the kid ready in practice not when it counts. The staff knows who's ready and who's not ready.
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    This must seem like rocket science to you fantasy football fans but as yet my man 'The Crab' has not shown that he can put on a pass rush as well as HOF LB Pierre Woods. He is also not a strong enough contributor on special teams. You want BB to sit ST contributor Woods just so you can get your jollies seeing Crable play, as we give up a big return? I loved The Crab at summer camp but it was clear to me as a big fan of his that he needed to bulk up, learn the position and demonstrate that he could set the edge if a runing play ensued. He has talent and will get on the field but right now he's deep on the depth chart. Think about that and how the on field players performed Sunday night.
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    These idiots would probably rather have Crable active instead of Vrabel.

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    agreed 100%, with that being said we need to improve our pass rush this offseason very badly. I was a huge believer in the "draft lamar woodley" camp a couple years ago, looking like that wouldn't have been a bad addition. We're really going to have to consider drafting pass rushers, because other than Crable we haven't been lately.
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    Reiss thinks so:
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    There isn't much to lose at this point. Why not play him. Why sit him until he "learns the playbook". How do you know he doesn't know it already? Maybe he'll "learn" it better on the field?

    Playing a 55 year old Vrabel who is in a wheelchair because he "knows the playbook" instead of a young guy who can actually move may not be the smartest thing.
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    So we're idiots for seeing that our pass rush has all but disappeared the last three weeks? I guess the no flaming rules must not apply to moderators. Maybe Crable is a fix, maybe he isn't. But, as anorexic as our pass rush is, why would it hurt to insert him on situational downs?
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    I don't think they would have Vrabel inactive to play Crabel. Not sure though. Just seems like a bad plan. But who else do make inactive?
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    Considering the way our special teams looked at times against the Chargers, surely one of them would be under consideration. I wouldn't deactivate Vrabel either. My post was more tongue in cheek but I guess it didn't come across like that.
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    Let's Go Crable

    At the beginning of the season when Crable was not being activiated I understood the reason. The game time roster is full and Crable is the odd man out. Now as the season moves on I wonder if this is such a good idea. Our pass rush is almost non-existant, we need some speed on the outside. I think he should be on the next active roster and I see no reason to leave him off of it.

    When Maroney and Lamont were both held from the last game due to injuries doesn't that mean that 2 other players were bumped up from the inactive list? If this is the case then one of them should have been Crable (I do not know who it was).

    Is there something I am missing besides "BB knows best"? :rolleyes:
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    Re: Let's Go Crable


    What, aside from pre-season, gives you the idea that Crable is ready to be a pass-rusher in the NFL?
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    Re: Let's Go Crable

    The fact that he is a rookie makes it hard to know. I mean that arguement can be used for any rookie. All we have to go on is preseason and college. Crable was drafted in the third round. Thats pretty good. He did look well in pre season and not always against scrubs.
    Many web sites had him listed as an above average pass rusher during the draft.
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    Re: Let's Go Crable

    Just how many Crable threads do we need? People, look down on the page before starting your own thread on the same topic.
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    Re: Let's Go Crable


    But don't you think that BB and the Patriots coaches have a whole lot more information to judge him on, so the fact that he has been inactive probably indicates he isn't ready, or at least isn't better than the guys ahead of him?
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    Re: Let's Go Crable

    no no, that can't possibly be the case! a lot of people on this message board have seen Crable play in the pre-season and also read a lot about him from scouts. BB is just being really stubborn in refusing to see what is so dang clear to nearly everyone here on patsfans.com....someday he'll realize his mistake and call us each individually to apologize :rolleyes:
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