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I am getting tired of the "If Marshall held onto the ball" narrative


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From 2001 to 2003 we heard this crap 40 times. :D

"We are a better team"

"We are more talented"

"If we made this play"

"Bla-bla-bla-bla-bla"

I died down a little in 2004 when teams start to shut the hell up and even in the AFCCG the Squealers and in the SB the Iggles still *****ed.

Find the whiner was one of my favorite post-game past-times, so glad it is back. I'm also thrilled that the snide cheating accusations have tailed off and it is just good-ol'-fashioned pissing and moaning. :)
 
If Marshall had been in position to make the catch, that would've meant he wasn't using his hands to push off, which would've meant he wasn't open in the first place.

Anyone got a gif or a link to the play?
 
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The *****ing post super bowl from the Seahwaks fans and players was pretty funny.

They were really mad after the parade. Remember some young girl wrote a letter to the newspaper and it went viral on the internet? Some Sea-hawk fans still believe that the championship will be vacated. Fortunately the coaches and players do not make such asinine statements.
 
You're tired of the narrative but then made a thread about it?
 
It's kind of natural if you're a fan to do that. I still wonder from time to time what if Welker held onto that pass in the SB. Seattle fans do the what if Lynch ran instead of the pass. Every game is filled with "what if" moments. They talk about if Marshall held onto the ball but yet we talked about how much more we would have scored if LaFell hadn't dropped so many passes.
 
Anyone got a gif or a link to the play?

To me, it looks like one of those plays where OPI would be called maybe 1/3 of the time. It certainly would've been controversial.

What's your take after watching the .gif? How often do you think that "obvious" foul gets called for OPI? Definitely no more than 50/50 in my opinion.
 
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That's not to say he's not a terrific receiver. He makes lots of great catches and also has a tendency to drop a relatively easy one now and then, moreso than many of the other top receivers.

I'd have Demarius Thomas ahead of Marshall, but you're right, both are insanely talented but both can drop some passes. For me, Thomas does it more frequently. I don't know if the stats back that up or not.
 
If my aunt had nuts, she'd be my uncle.
 
Good WR...has had awful drops and fumbles this year...nothing new
 
I heard it multiple of times today. Toucher and Rich. Obviously, Felger and Mazz. I think John Dennis said it too.

Talk radio isn't designed to inform (with rare exception) or even to give honest views. It's designed to excite parts of your brain that get you upset, angry, or feeling like you need to correct the record. It's a formula, carefully crafted, for maximum "pornographic" effect.

I'm not kidding. They want you to disagree, to gt frustrated, to even hate a host or ten. Logic tells you that such a thing would get people to turn off the radio.

But that's not the case. I called it pornography for a reason, and it's addictive.
 
To me, it looks like one of those plays where OPI would be called maybe 1/3 of the time. It certainly would've been controversial.

What's your take after watching the .gif? How often do you think that "obvious" foul gets called for OPI? Definitely no more than 50/50 in my opinion.

Grabbing a defender's jersey and pulling him down to get open is a controversial penalty?

This was easily one of the most nailed on examples of offensive pass interference
 
To me, it looks like one of those plays where OPI would be called maybe 1/3 of the time. It certainly would've been controversial.

What's your take after watching the .gif? How often do you think that "obvious" foul gets called for OPI? Definitely no more than 50/50 in my opinion.

Blatant, but it depends on the ref's angle. From the sideline it may just look like hand fighting and would probably not get flagged very often. From the EZ it should be penalized a majority of the time.
 
Clear as day OPI


You're tell me the Back Judge didn't see that and why are they paying him again???:mad: You know if Edelman - Gronk or LaFell did that it would have been called. I swear the League only call illegal pick play against the Patriots everybody else some how does it legally.:rolleyes: Amendola lost out on like 150yds on pick plays that could have went either way.
 
You're tell me the Back Judge didn't see that and why are they paying him again???:mad:

Maybe he was gonna throw it if Marshall caught..... No that's just laughable to think. That ref was letting the jests receivers get away with everything, same ref that threw the flag when Decker committed OPI but called DPI on Butler.

I'm surprised that ref didn't call Ryan for slightly putting his hand on Marshall when Marshall had a fistful of his jersey.
 
Obvious opi. Called 100% of the time if a competent ref saw it. Maybe this ref had a bad angle and didn't see it or he saw it but didn't care because ya know, he's a jets fan.
 
Grabbing a defender's jersey and pulling him down to get open is a controversial penalty?

This was easily one of the most nailed on examples of offensive pass interference

I definitely see why you may have a problem with it, but to me, this is one of those kinds of calls that doesn't get called the majority of the time, and if it would've been Edelman, Amendola, LaFell, or Gronk--we've had all been severely pissed. That's what defines "controversial" to me.

I see two guys with their arms locked up, fighting for the ball, which happens on many of the WR/CB battles. Although Marshall does have the jersey (at the neck) for a split second, one could argue that Ryan grabs at Marshall's arm right as he's turning for the attempt. The whole time that Marshall has the jersey, Ryan also has hands on the receiver. As a matter of fact, Ryan may have done enough to help break this play up, or at least aid in taking his attention away for a precious milli-second by swatting at it.
 
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