Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by danny88, Mar 26, 2007.
Just heard it on the sports flash
Here's the good news, in technicolour, from Mike Reiss:
On the news front, running back Laurence Maroney underwent shoulder surgery after the AFC Championship Game. That Maroney underwent surgery was first reported by the Boston Herald, and has been confirmed. Maroney will naturally be limited in the team's offseason program, but the injury isn't expected to threaten his 2007 season.
Classy of Reiss, by the way, to attribute the story to a good scoop from John Tomase.
It will be great if he is 100% at the start of the season. Maybe this explains why he tapered off at the end of last season.
Since the other Maroney injury thread has turned into a pissing contest about draft picks and injuries, I guess it's better to put this here. A poster on Indy Star (a resident Pat's troll who seems to have sources on player info) posted this about Maroney's injury on a thread there:
tomase is making a big deal about nothing, moroney will be fine
Great news, absolutely.
But may I say this made me grin a little, remembering that just yesterday in a thread about Reiss I wrote:
"There does seem to be a trend of Reiss suddenly appearing with an extremely detailed inside view on a topic the team typically doesn't want to talk about...3 hours after the story is broken by somebody else."
Mike isn't in the habit of breaking news about injuries, even though he always knows the score. That's his MO, for better or worse. Personally, I'm glad to have both a Tomase playing "bad cop" and Reiss playing "good cop."
Mike Reiss has the best Patriots source in the business: Bill Belichick. I'll bet money that the minute this story broke, he went to the "SOURCE" to confirm it and get more detail.
Regardless, I am worried about the production at the RB position. But, let's hope he comes back 100% and kicks some butt next season.
According to Patriots Insiders, the Pats have set up a private workout with Chris Henry and they appear to be VERY interested in him.
See, this is what I'm talking about, PatsChick, when I complain of the unjust praise Reiss tends to get around here.
This guy acts like Tomase and his editors would possibly have not bothered to contact the Patriots' FO and BB himself to comment on the report. Does he think the Herald doesn't have BB's number? Do you think they just didn't think to ask him?
Basically, it works like this: Tomase gets the scoop, reports it out. In the process, he contacts the Patriots, and sees if they will confirm his information, and even add to it. The Pats stonewall; they're waiting to see what Tomase actually knows, what he has solid enough info to print, and what he's just bluffing about. There's no advantage for them to comment until after they see what Tomase actually feels he can run with. They read Tomase's article in the paper, spend a few hours trying to find out how much else is out there, and then confirm how much of it is true -- to Reiss, knowing that he will politely print their vague statement "but the injury isn't expected to threaten his 2007 season" without pushing further with questions, the most important being "if you know enough about the injury to not expect it to threaten his '07 season, why don't you tell us?"
It's funny -- we wouldn't have heard a thing about this deal if Tomase hadn't come out with it, and yet Reiss gets praised for simply receiving confirmation that the Pats' FO should really have given Tomase from the start.
Good, he's a rock. I made a thread about him in the draft section with links to four different scouting reports.
I hope he's better behaved than the other Chris Henry.
IN WHAT WAY DID TOMASE "make a big deal about nothing?" Can we please have some standard of equilibrium here, not to mention a sense of irony. He just reported the story. It seems like YOU guys are the ones overreacting.
The herald sucks
I agree. The only ones who were making a big deal out of it were people here and to some extent PFT but they make a big deal out of eveything.
They needed another RB anyway regardless of the Maroney injury. They lose Pass and Dillion and only pick up Morris. This Henry guy is an athlete for an RB with a lot of tread left as he played slightly but was good when he did.
There is no way the Pats let Dillion walk IMO is Maroney looks like a PUP casualty. So that says quite a bit.
Morris is a 30 year old ST guy who will catch some passes and can run the ball 6 to 8 times a game to give Maroney a breather. In this age of a two back system, He is not the answer but a compliment. I think Henry is a bigger back than both but with break away speed actually faster than Maroney. A faster Dillion perhaps.
Any chance Dillon comes back?? He's still available, no?
PUP? They just said he would be fine for the season.
Yeh Just saw that. Thats' good.
Pass is gone? ARE YOU SURE????
We're doomed. Who do we have left who can fumble in critical moments?
Oh, wait. Whew. We still have Faulk.
Keeping Dillon would have been huge for us, though. He'll be a difference maker in 2007. Probably signed a humongous contract the minute he hit free agency. Ha ha. No one wants him, but somehow we are in troouble without him.
Dillon was great in 2004, okay in 2005, and became helmet-tapping Pokey #2 in 2006. There is a long line of backup RBs I'd rather have on the team next year, including Morris. (Not to take anything away from what Dillon WAS or USED TO BE, but losing him will not hurt our team in 2007.)
Good to know.
Hopefully now folks will accept that his injuries certainly affected production down the stretch.
But now the pendulum is swinging to other side, where proclamations of Maroney's impending doom are bellowed ad nauseum.
People will always be able to find something to be unhappy about if they want to badly enough.
Yeah, by doing a lot of legwork researching articles and by asking intelligent questions at press conferences, he has developed contacts within the organization. What a bonehead. He should be out there trying to spin situations into controversial stuff, trying to say anything negative he can like the rest of the so-called Boston media, then whine when no one in the organization will talk to him.
I'll take Reiss and Curran any day of the week ahaed of the other jokers. There is no unjust praise from them, only unjust and ignorant whining.
Reiss was fantastic at MetroWest, Curran equally so at ProJo. Reiss's Peices is the best sports blog going.
Stop carping and give credit where it is due, instead of your Tomase-Felger-Gresh-Borges lovefest.
Read what you wrote.
You are condemning Reiss for having information that Tomase did not have. Tomase said he had no idea how this would affect the season and you call this terrific investigatinve reporting. Reiss says it will not affect the season and you complain that he should have asked them why don't they tell him if Maroney will be able to play when that is what they just told him? It is not asking stupid questions like this that makes the FO think he has a brain. Sure, Tomase (or Felger) would have asked exactly this questions.
Pats FO: Maroney will be able to play the whole season next year.
Tomase-Felger: Why don't you tell us things like this?
Pats FO: Excuse me? We just did.
Tomase-Felger: It's stonewalling like this that hurts our relationship. You should have told me.
Pats FO: We did tell you.
Tomase-Felger: I'm gong home and write a story highly critical of the Patriots.
Pats FO: Anybody have Mike Reiss's phone number? Or Curran's? Or anybody with a brain's?
You don't like Reiss. Fine. Tomase saw Moroney in a sling before Reiss did. Cool. But that don't make Tomase great. The Patriots give out almost no information about injuries. They didn't have to give out anything at all except to say Maroney is day-to-day.
We finally have a reporter with enough cache to get some tidbits out of them. Stop your friggin' whining and say thanks.
Hmm, I didn't think of that. If Reiss says it won't affect his 07 season, then I'd just assume that's the case, and assume he'll have a monster season next year.
Tomase is a bonehead.
If accurate, the Bankart Repair is very good news,indeed. Sounds like a very common injury and interesting that most times it never makes the news. Except in Boston,of course. Ingrown toenails become newsworthy if spun just right
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