PatriotSeven
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If people want to argue stats and numbers, why not look at all the most important one together?
History:
-Two 9-7 teams have made the Super Bowl before. Both lost the Super Bowl.
-Two teams have won the the AFC Championship game with a - turnover margin. They both won the Super Bowl.
Advantage: Patriots
Winning records:
-Patriots are 15-3
-NY Giants are 12-7
Advantage: Patriots
Strength of schedule:
Advantage: Giants(not sure of the ranking but they clearly have it)
Turnovers:
-The Patriots finished the season with a +0.8 turnover margin per game.
-The Giants finished the season with +0.6 turnover margin per game.
Advantage: Patriots
Defensive yards allowed:
Defense:
-NY Giants defense finished 22nd in yards allowed per drive(31.78ypd)
-Patriots Defense finished 32nd in yards allowed per drive(37.49ypd)
Difference: 5.71 yards
Advantage: Giants
Special teams:
-Patriots special teams defense finished 2nd in defending starting field position(24.06 yard line)
-NY Giants special teams defense finished 19th in defending starting field position(28.56 yard line)
Difference: 4.5 yards
Advantage: Patriots
True Total defense(yards):
Giants: 60.34 yards allowed per drive
Patriots: 61.55 yards allowed per drive.
Net Difference: 1.21 yards per drive. THIS is what ******s go crazy over?
Advantage: Giants
Offensive yards allowed:
Offense:
-Patriots offense finished 2nd in yards per drive(39.53 ypd)
-NY Giants offense finished 8th in yards per drive(32.95ypd)
Difference: 6.58 yards per drive
Advantage: Patriots
Special Teams offense:
-Patriots special teams offense finished 9th in starting field position(28.94ypd)
-Ny Giants special teams offense finished 29th in starting field position(25.97ypd)
Difference: 2.97 yards per drive
Advantage: Patriots
True TOTAL offense(yards):
-Patriots: 68.47 yards per drive
-Giants: 58.92 yards per drive
Difference: 9.55 yard per drive.
Advantage: Patriots
Net drive stats rankings(yards)(offense-defense):
-Patriots: 10th
-Giants: 12th
Advantage: Patriots
Points.
Defense:
-Ny Giants defense finished 24th in points per drive allowed.
-Patriots defense finished 21st in points per drive allowed
Advantage: Patriots
Offense:
-Patriots offense finished 3rd in points per drive
-Ny Giants offense finished 9th in points per drive
Advantage: Patriots
Total Point differential:
-The Patriots finished the season with a + 171 point differential.
-The Giants finished the season with a -6 point differential.
Difference: (LOL)
Advantage: Patriots
QB's NFL passer rating:
-Tom Brady has a 105.8 QB passer rating, including playoffs in 2011.
-Eli Manning has 1031. QB passer rating, including playoffs in 2011.
Advantage: Patriots
Efficiency: "Yards per point is the single biggest predictor of victory in the NFL"
-Patriots offense finished 4th in OVERALL scoring ability(yards per point)
-NY Giants finished 16th in OVERALL scoring ability(yards per point)
Advantage: Patriots
-Patriots defense finished 2nd in OVERALL defense stopping ability(yards per point)
-Ny Giants defense finished 15th in OVERALL defense stopping ability(ypp allowed)
Advantage: Patriots
LOL Patriots defense owns you! You just don't know it.
The Patriots defense is more efficient in stopping opponents and has been all year compared to the Patriots offense is in scoring on opponents.
Let me repeat this because people just read this and it kind of goes in one ear and out the other: After 16 regular season games, the Patriots defense is more efficient in doing their job than the Patriots offense is in doing theirs.
Ask yourself, how efficient and how good at executing are the Patriots offensively? Well...whatever you think or imagine, realize that defensively they are BETTER than that. Ok? These are the facts after 16 regular season games and it continued into the playoffs.
If you want to worry about something, the Patriots defense isn't even the part of the team you should worry about. The Patriots weakest link is ironically the offense, as hard as that might be to believe, and the Giants aren't nowhere near the same level.
Playoffs-Offensive Efficiency and Win/Loss correlations for 2011:
7-3 Based on regular season rankings.
10-0 Based on playoff records rankings.
Advantage: Patriots.
There are only two category the Giants have the upper hand:
-Their actual defense allow 6 less yards per drive(not even a first down) but not their real total defense(you know the full freaking thing) because their special teams defense sucks and give up almost 5 extra yards per drive compared to the Patriots special teams defense. They have a [B net 1 yard[/b] advantage when it's all said and done. This is also the least important category out of everything I listed when it comes to winning a football game.
-the other is strength of opponents. They faced better competition. This is a second is a valid argument.
There is only one category the Giants really match up: Quarterbacks. Eli Manning proved he is an elite quarterback and deserves much respect. But other than that, the rest of the parts of the teams, they are not even close in the categories that actually freaking matter like points and scoring ability.
sources:
NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Opp Yards per Point on TeamRankings.com
NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Yards per Point on TeamRankings.com
2011 NFL Regular Season Divisional Standings - National Football League - ESPN
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2011 DRIVE STATS
Have fun!
PS: Giants fans...Start Tebowing!
History:
-Two 9-7 teams have made the Super Bowl before. Both lost the Super Bowl.
-Two teams have won the the AFC Championship game with a - turnover margin. They both won the Super Bowl.
Advantage: Patriots
Winning records:
-Patriots are 15-3
-NY Giants are 12-7
Advantage: Patriots
Strength of schedule:
Advantage: Giants(not sure of the ranking but they clearly have it)
Turnovers:
-The Patriots finished the season with a +0.8 turnover margin per game.
-The Giants finished the season with +0.6 turnover margin per game.
Advantage: Patriots
Defensive yards allowed:
Defense:
-NY Giants defense finished 22nd in yards allowed per drive(31.78ypd)
-Patriots Defense finished 32nd in yards allowed per drive(37.49ypd)
Difference: 5.71 yards
Advantage: Giants
Special teams:
-Patriots special teams defense finished 2nd in defending starting field position(24.06 yard line)
-NY Giants special teams defense finished 19th in defending starting field position(28.56 yard line)
Difference: 4.5 yards
Advantage: Patriots
True Total defense(yards):
Giants: 60.34 yards allowed per drive
Patriots: 61.55 yards allowed per drive.
Net Difference: 1.21 yards per drive. THIS is what ******s go crazy over?
Advantage: Giants
Offensive yards allowed:
Offense:
-Patriots offense finished 2nd in yards per drive(39.53 ypd)
-NY Giants offense finished 8th in yards per drive(32.95ypd)
Difference: 6.58 yards per drive
Advantage: Patriots
Special Teams offense:
-Patriots special teams offense finished 9th in starting field position(28.94ypd)
-Ny Giants special teams offense finished 29th in starting field position(25.97ypd)
Difference: 2.97 yards per drive
Advantage: Patriots
True TOTAL offense(yards):
-Patriots: 68.47 yards per drive
-Giants: 58.92 yards per drive
Difference: 9.55 yard per drive.
Advantage: Patriots
Net drive stats rankings(yards)(offense-defense):
-Patriots: 10th
-Giants: 12th
Advantage: Patriots
Points.
Defense:
-Ny Giants defense finished 24th in points per drive allowed.
-Patriots defense finished 21st in points per drive allowed
Advantage: Patriots
Offense:
-Patriots offense finished 3rd in points per drive
-Ny Giants offense finished 9th in points per drive
Advantage: Patriots
Total Point differential:
-The Patriots finished the season with a + 171 point differential.
-The Giants finished the season with a -6 point differential.
Difference: (LOL)
Advantage: Patriots
QB's NFL passer rating:
-Tom Brady has a 105.8 QB passer rating, including playoffs in 2011.
-Eli Manning has 1031. QB passer rating, including playoffs in 2011.
Advantage: Patriots
Efficiency: "Yards per point is the single biggest predictor of victory in the NFL"
-Patriots offense finished 4th in OVERALL scoring ability(yards per point)
-NY Giants finished 16th in OVERALL scoring ability(yards per point)
Advantage: Patriots
-Patriots defense finished 2nd in OVERALL defense stopping ability(yards per point)
-Ny Giants defense finished 15th in OVERALL defense stopping ability(ypp allowed)
Advantage: Patriots
LOL Patriots defense owns you! You just don't know it.
The Patriots defense is more efficient in stopping opponents and has been all year compared to the Patriots offense is in scoring on opponents.
Let me repeat this because people just read this and it kind of goes in one ear and out the other: After 16 regular season games, the Patriots defense is more efficient in doing their job than the Patriots offense is in doing theirs.
Ask yourself, how efficient and how good at executing are the Patriots offensively? Well...whatever you think or imagine, realize that defensively they are BETTER than that. Ok? These are the facts after 16 regular season games and it continued into the playoffs.
If you want to worry about something, the Patriots defense isn't even the part of the team you should worry about. The Patriots weakest link is ironically the offense, as hard as that might be to believe, and the Giants aren't nowhere near the same level.
Playoffs-Offensive Efficiency and Win/Loss correlations for 2011:
7-3 Based on regular season rankings.
10-0 Based on playoff records rankings.
Advantage: Patriots.
There are only two category the Giants have the upper hand:
-Their actual defense allow 6 less yards per drive(not even a first down) but not their real total defense(you know the full freaking thing) because their special teams defense sucks and give up almost 5 extra yards per drive compared to the Patriots special teams defense. They have a [B net 1 yard[/b] advantage when it's all said and done. This is also the least important category out of everything I listed when it comes to winning a football game.
-the other is strength of opponents. They faced better competition. This is a second is a valid argument.
There is only one category the Giants really match up: Quarterbacks. Eli Manning proved he is an elite quarterback and deserves much respect. But other than that, the rest of the parts of the teams, they are not even close in the categories that actually freaking matter like points and scoring ability.
sources:
NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Opp Yards per Point on TeamRankings.com
NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Yards per Point on TeamRankings.com
2011 NFL Regular Season Divisional Standings - National Football League - ESPN
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2011 DRIVE STATS
Have fun!
PS: Giants fans...Start Tebowing!
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