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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    Thanks for the link.

    Anyone with a Insider account, can you post the entire article?
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    to go undefeated
    By Gary Horton
    Scouts Inc.
    (Archive)
    Updated: September 27, 2007
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    With New England's early dominance, there's the early talk that this team could be the best Patriots team ever and have a chance to go 16-0. It's crazy to get too caught up in this talk just entering Week 4, but there are some unique factors about this team that makes an undefeated run at least a possibility.


    1. Brady and offensive balance
    Tom Brady has been a great player throughout his career, even when he lacked great weapons around him. Now, however, he has his best supporting cast ever. He can play with two tight ends on one down and come back with a five-wide receiver, empty-backfield set on the next. The Patriots are not afraid to use any formation on any down. It makes it nearly impossible for the defenses to read tendencies and many times, they are caught in unfavorable personnel matchup groupings. The Pats can also run the ball from any of these formations and now they have two backs to share the load: Laurence Maroney and Sammy Morris. Brady also has excellent pass protection. When he has time to throw the ball and read his progressions, he is lethal. Plus, nobody is better at looking off defenders and freezing defensive backs.

    This is an offense that has an answer for every adjustment a defense makes and it can change its approach on a moment's notice. New England's three new receivers, Randy Moss, Wes Welker and Donte' Stallworth, have energized this offense and the combo of Brady-to-Moss may be the most explosive duo in the league. Even on an off day, this offense is too versatile to be shut down.

    2. A complicated defense
    With a core of smart, veteran players, the Pats have a lot of freedom to play some exotic defensive schemes. They can give you a 3-4 look, they can go to a 4-3 scheme. They can play man-to-man or zone. They can blitz or sit in coverages. Their presnap movement is legendary and offenses never know who's coming or who's dropping, and the element of confusion is always there.

    The key to this group is its athletic linebackers, especially OLBs Mike Vrabel and Rosevelt Colvin and ILBs Tedy Bruschi, Adalius Thomas and Junior Seau. They are veteran players who can adjust to any role they are asked to play, which is imperative in a Bill Belichick defense. They can blitz, cover and play the run. To illustrate Belichick's system, he moved a great outside pass-rusher, Thomas, to the inside because he didn't want to move Vrabel back inside, and both players understand the move. These are interchangeable parts of a well-oiled machine and seem to embrace the variety of tasks they are asked to perform.

    3. Disciplined special teams
    This organization pays close attention to detail, and it carries over to the kicking game. The Patriots are not afraid to use veteran players on cover units, and nobody on this team is too proud to contribute on special teams. They are near the top of the league in every category that relates to cover units and their kicking game has no flaws. They have a kickoff returner in Ellis Hobbs who is a threat to score every time he touches the ball. He already has a 108-yard TD return this season. Welker returns punts and not only is he dependable, but he also has great quickness and explosiveness. They have a solid kicker in Stephen Gostkowski, who's been been automatic in 2007. Punter Chris Hanson is steady, but he doesn't put up huge numbers. While he plays with an offense that doesn't have to punt a lot, that's an area that needs improvement. This is a unit that never gives up field position and is going to win most special teams battles.

    4. Preparation and maturity
    This is the smartest team in the NFL and loaded with veteran players of high character. The Patriots are the best in the league at implementing a game plan during the week, but are equally adept at making in-game adjustments and can handle anything Belichick throws at them. In such a long and monotonous season, it's easy for players to get bored from time to time. This is what makes the Patriots unique. When the players come in on Wednesday and pick up their game plan, they can't wait to see what the mad professor cooked up. Each Belichick game plan is totally different and there are always new wrinkles with changing roles for several players. That keeps their interest from week to week. This philosophy prevents the Pats from ever looking ahead or sleepwalking through a game plan, because they're always being challenged every week. It also gives the players a huge dose of confidence because they go to the stadium each Sunday with the feeling that they have not only outprepared their opponent, but they are also going to show them something they have never seen before.

    5. The Belichick factor
    There is no question that the players have rallied around their coach through the spying scandal. This is an organization that is masterful at developing an "us against the world" mentality, and now the Patriots can play the rest of the season with a chip on their shoulder. They believe in Belichick because they have won doing it his way. They know he will work tirelessly to give them an edge in every area, and right or wrong, when they hit the field on Sunday they think they have an edge because the smartest coach in the NFL got them ready for the game. He pays great attention to detail and his players know that his focus is off the charts. If you want to play for this guy, you better be smart and instinctive. In a league that doesn't always show a lot of loyalty, these players perform for Belichick because they know where he can take them. They don't have to like him in a warm and fuzzy way, but they respect him. At times Belichick reminds you of a father that you are obsessed with pleasing. As tough as he is, he really appreciates players that do it his way, and that approval is something that they are all seeking.
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    That's the part I was able to read then you get the...

    To continue reading this article you must be an Insider.

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    : (

    Thanks anyways.
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    Whether a team is good enough to go undefeated is not the issue. There have been plenty of teams good enough to win 16 games in a row on any given Sunday over the years.

    But so far it has not been done.

    Human nature works for both teams, and if a pretty good team is more motivated than a really good team, they can often pull out the upset.

    The question is will the Pats be more motivated and more focused than each of their opponents on a tough strength of schedule for 16 weeks straight, and also how will the injuries play into it.

    Will they even play their starters for the last couple games?

    If all you want to say is are the Pats good enough, the answer is clearly, as of today, hell yeah!

    But that is not the only factor in going undefeated, or each year the best team in the league would go undefeated.
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    The Pats will NOT go 16-0. If you think they are going to then you're delusional. Colts, Steelers, Cowboys...those are considered to be the 3 other best teams aside from us excluding the Packers. I'll be surprised if we win all 3 plus every single AFCE game this year. I don't want the Pats jinxed with this 16-0 crap. Stop fantacizing.
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    You can't jinx the Pats.

    This is a really special year, let us dream. Not hurting anyone.
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    this undefeated talk three games into a season is assinine :mad:
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    Dude.

    Relax.

    Its an article written by a pro scout who writes for ESPN NFL Insider.

    Its about Patriots getting respect. Something we don't get a lot of around here.

    So if you don't like it, fine. I posted it so that some folks around here can read something thats not negative.

    Like your garbage rant.
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    They won't go 16-0. Just like other teams it will be the opponent that no one gives a chance that will bit the Pats in lthe azz.

    Ex. A run of the mill Miami team beat the Bears in 85. Last year wasn't it the lowly Texans that beat the Dolts.
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    Wow. Such venom.

    The Patriots are the most talented team and the best coached. In my opinion. Therefore I expect them to win each week.

    There are two hurdles IMO. Neither is a letdown.

    The first is injuries. We have more than most teams every year so there's no reason to expect that to stop now.

    The second is we have several games against teams who could beat us if they play at the top of their game. Will an Indy or a Pittsburgh do that the same week we aren't 100% sharp ? Maybe. And that would beat us.
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    Mediots write things to make things exciting for the naive fans who believe in fairy tales..it ain't happening and if you think its going to happen then put some milk in a glass on your table at home on Christmas eve so Santa can have something to drink when he arrives..:rolleyes: ..

    When a guy who has been a long time successful writer and he writes negative things about the Patriots then hes a jerk,a-hole,stupid ***** and other things...
    When the SAME guy later writes the Patriots may go to 16-0 or something positive like this article then hes a brilliant educated man...Give me a F-ing break homies.
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    They have a solid kicker in Stephen Gostkowski, who's been been automatic in 2007.

    This is written by a "pro scout" and people pay money to read it? Really?
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    Less talented Patriots teams have gone 14-2. It can be done. If we stay really healthy, a longshot I know, then . . .
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    If i want to believe my team is gonna go undefeated. Then i am going to. I dont have to answer to anyone. Ofcourse i dont think we are going undefeated but thats beside the point.


    ALso its funny, the Topic says, "The pats MAY be good enough"....it never said the Pats WILL go undefeated.
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    It's true for his kickoff role where he's been phenomenal. He missed a FG and had a shaky preseason but really - who needs a FG kicker anyway ? :D
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    IF Theres no injuries in a major way and IF they continue to play like they are playing right now then 14-2 is very possible and that IMO is best scenerio by FAR.

    I would think that teams with great defenses like Baltimore,Pittsburgh and great offenses like Indy and Dallas are where 2 of those losses will occur.


    12-4 or 13-3 are most likely to be realistic especially if BB rests some guys by the end of week 14
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"


    exactly....re the injuries...that is one thing I worry about....but not too much
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    You are taking it personally,I said ANYONE - Not just Desi-patsfan,and just like you if I believe anyone who thinks the team is going to be 16-0 is retarded than I am going to think that way and I don't answer to anyone on here either - I really don't think that writer believes it anyway but its a good way to make potential reading customers on the scouts website.

    Writers are like Attorneys-you can NEVER trust them.
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    Re: ESPN "Patriots may just be good enough to go undefeated"

    Some people here are getting all bent over nothing. It is one thing to say the team is going "16-0". It is a completely different thing to say that it has a chance to go "16-0". From what was posted from the Insider article, all sides of the ball are complete, from the coach to the special teams (except the punting game which is mentioned).

    I think the resounding point is the last one: they have a chip on their shoulder.

    This was the same point I was making last night with friends: the only thing this scandal will end up doing is putting a bigger chip on the shoulder of the New England Patriots. As if they needed one, they have a huge one with the spy scandal. As long as they feed their fire with this attitude that has been perpetuated by the scandal, every player that takes the field (whether he is replacing an injured star or is a star themself) will have something to prove. And if he doesn't have something to prove, there are a ton of leaders that will tell him he does. Some teams get fat and happy toward the end of the season when they feel they are entitled to win all 16 games whether they admit it or not. See the Broncos vs. the Dolphins when Elway lost his perfect season to the lonely Dolphins of all teams.

    I'm not saying anyone is going 16-0 and you didn't read this if you thought I did. What I am saying is that given the talent, leadership and fire, they COULD go 16-0.

    That said, there are some good teams out there and we have to play most of them. Colts aren't going to roll over for anyone, but I'm hoping the Pats have some extra fire for that AFCC loss last year. Hate on me if you want, but I'm not jumping on any Steeler wagon yet. I just don't think the defense is as great as it has been in years past and the offense is far from difficult to scheme against after a few games into the season. Cowboys are playing the role of the Patriots, who are playing the role of the Rams in the Super Bowl. Romo is just as much the special QB that Brady is and TO is equal in talent to Moss. Their running game is hilarious, but Barber won't leave too many players laughing when he runs over them. Still, I think they come off 2 easy victories and play lower than their abilities when actually facing a quality opponent. I still think the Rams can take care of them and then the media will sing a whole new song.

    And lets not talk about the AFC East. It is pathetic, but I admit strange things happen. A bad call here and an injury there and the Pats lose to Trent Edwards and the Bills.

    Limit the hate guys.

    We all want good for our team.
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