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Colts place franchise tag on Peyton Manning


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You can negotiate with a tagged player unless he is exclusively tagged as Vick and Manning have been. That exclusive tag essentially means don't bother calling.

Thanks for the clarification.
 
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Remember this summer when everyone were saying the Pats and Brady were potentially heading for a bitter divorce and resigning Manning and Brees would be easy. Funny, there is only one of those three guys with a new deal right now.

Yet another example of how biased most of the sports press is against the Patriots. Pundit after pundit sewing seeds of writer fabricated Brady discontent before his contract yet where are the myriad Manning and Brees vs their 'cheap' owner articles? At the very least some subliminal Kraft=Shylock attitude there.
 
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Ok thanks molewis.
 
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What? There is plenty to see here. There was a ton of time to sign him to a contract well before this point and it isn't like other big deals haven't been done yet. Obviously there is something or someone holding up the negotiations. Either Manning is asking for more money than Indy is willing to spend or there is doubt in somebody's mind. If this were Brady this place would be going ballistic for letting it get this far no matter what the reasons.

From what I heard on The Morning Blitz, this situation is somewhat similar to how it went down for Manning in 2004. Except this time, due to a looming lockout and Peyton's age, his agent stopped negotiations during the middle of the season in order to gain "maximum leverage" for him and to force the Colts to tag him. The reason to have him tagged is due to the fact that he already was the highest paid at his position, which means he gets the average of the top 5 at QB, plus a 20% increase. This sets his salary at $23 million per year which is being used as a starting point for his agent. Sounds pretty shrewd and smart considering this is most likely the giant forehead's last big-time contract.
 
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Mankins and so far all the rest (Ngata, Jackson, Woodley when it's announced) got the standard or non-exclusive tag. They are free to talk to other teams (once FA starts which will be a problem for them this year if there isn't any...) and if they are signed to an offer sheet the team has a week to match the offer or accept the prescribed compensation of two first round picks. In those cases the team decided either they weren't going to elicit that kind of compensation or they'd be just as glad to move on if they did... The difference in the two tags besides the inability to talk to potential suitors is the player gets the average of the top 5 salaries from this season and not last under the exclusive tag. Usually that is significantly higher, although this year without new FA contracts to fuel the calculation it might not be.

In Manning's case the $$$ difference was immaterial since his cap hit was so high last year he qualifies for 120% of his previous "salary" calculation which works out to $23.1M. His situation is unique though as in the last couple of years of his expiring deal his cap hits have been in excess of $20M anyway, he's 35 and counting, and for Irsay having the cap pay Manning's cost may be preferable to having to come up with cash over cap (bonus money) to craft a deal that would allow for lower caps early on at the expense of the backend of the deal (which may be coming sooner than later now). It's going to be tough enough sledding for Indy when he does go, let alone if they have massive dead cap to deal with for the first couple of post Manning years...

Sorry I didn't see this, but damn. You're good.
 
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For Manning's sake, I hope the tag really will be so the can continue negotiations and eventually sign him. If there is a season this year and they don't sign him, he's be 36 the following season and probably wont get the total dollars he would've if he signs this year.
 
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Tom was all about trickle down economics and how the top tier deals given to rookies drive up the overall market.

Which of course, they don't really do, since there's only a finite amount of money to go around. . . .
 
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Which of course, they don't really do, since there's only a finite amount of money to go around. . . .

What they did do was drive up the top tier of the market which is the only segment he's really concerned about...
 
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which means he gets the average of the top 5 at QB, plus a 20% increase.

As MLR wrote, his 2010 cap figure is so high that he automatically gets 120% of that number.

[As an interesting aside: if Manning's salary were low enough that 120% of his 2010 cap figure was less than the average of the top 5 for 2011, the CBA would explicitly allow him to accept the lower figure. It does NOT work in reverse, however.]
 
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i guess there must be a growing disconnect.
 
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