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  1. BigMike

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    How badly will BB confuse this kid since it appears he is going to start for the Packahs......anyone know if this kid has any skills?
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    The Flynn-led Packers put up 3 points against a team we put up 45 on... mad skills
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    I watched a good bit of their game last weekend the other night and I'd have been bringing Graham Harrell up from the practice squad immediately after what I seen. And thats bad.
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    After Colt McCoy (granted, with a much better running game and some fortunate turnovers) and Ryan Fitzpatrick's performances, I'm not willing to count anything out, especially considering GB has a decent defense and is fighting to stay alive.

    I have a feeling Flynn is capable of having a nice day against our team, just because the team has a history of giving up points to guys they don't have a lot of film on.

    But, what makes me more confident is knowing the game is at home. Hopefully the crowd gets into it and makes it a tough day for him.
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    Colt McCoy looked okay against us ... I mean it can happen ... not likely but possible.
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    Fitzpatrick looked good against a lot of teams. He is NOT a BAD QB. He is a journeyman, good midlevel starter. The kinda guy the Pats fill other positions on their roster with. Do NOT dismiss him. Surround that guy with a great team and he will look like an all pro.

    McCoy is a young and dynamic QB. But still. I will give you that one.
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    I have no clue what to expect out of Flynn. If I go off of what he looked like at Detroit... it could be a long 60 minutes for the GB offense. If he looks like what he did in the pre-season, he'll be a game-manager, not a game-changer tho. If he looks like he did in the 2008 BCS Championship, then things could get interesting.
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    Thanks for chiming in. Its nice to hear from an opposing fan who doesn't trash talk.

    Especially when the home town faithful do so much of it. I am sure you have been welcomed a long time ago, but welcome again!

    Forget college ball. This is the pros.

    Game management would be VERY effective if your team can produce a dominating run game. Can they? No seriously. Teams have a way.

    Does your team have a way to pull it off? If so it will still be an interesting game.

    Oh and again, weather will not be a factor. So what? Its cold. Its snowing. Bears, Packers, Pats, Bills. Non Factor unless you are playing a warm weather or dome team.
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    No idea either. With some QBs, Bill likes to wait for them to make mistakes. Makes for a close and uncomfortable game. The Pats usually wins these games but it is no fun to watch. I see a game like this on Sunday night. Me thinks this will be a lot like the 2007 game against the Eagles.
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    BB's defenses don't do as well against guys he doesn't have a lot of tape on. Can't really game plan for a guy whose tendencies are unknown.

    But I still think we win this one.
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    I expect the same kind of outcome. They'll let the kid complete the obvious reads and he'll put up good numbers. He'll get nothing down the field.

    GB does have a good defense so they'll stop the Pats a couple of times.

    4th qtr Brady will rev it up and Flynn will start to feel the pressure to make plays.

    Game over.
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    When criticizing Flynn's last game, you overlook that he did not have a week of preparation. This week is entirely different. He's had reps and gone thru specific gameplay to cater to his abilities. So expect Flynn to perform better. He could also play the game of his life. I take nothing for granted and im sure the team won't after that Cleveland game.
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    Speaking of Flynn and his ilk, I think that over 1/4th the teams are starting 2nd or 3rd string QBs Sunday/Monday. Think about the competitive consequences throughout the rosters with an 18 game season. There's already a marked dearth of NFL level competent starters.
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    He's got a measely 59 rating in Madden 2010, I don't have 2011 though.

    Hope that helps
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    On the "Big Show" they were referring to him as "A poor man's Tim Tebow"
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    I swear, for some people that is the most important piece of datum in assessing a player.
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    Sean Brennan of the New York Daily News is not much of a fan of Flynn:

    Matt Flynn turns in Pop Warner-like performance filling in for Aaron Rodgers after concussion

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    NESN's Jeff Howe has a more complimentary article on Flynn:

    Patriots Cornerback Chevis Jackson Praises Talents of Former Teammate, Packers Backup Matt Flynn - NESN.com

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    More from Howe on Flynn, who talked with Bill Huber, who covers the Packers for Packer Report, Scout.com and FoxSports.com.

    Patriots Should Not Underestimate Abilities of Matt Flynn if Aaron Rodgers Can't Play on Sunday - Across Enemy Lines - NESN.com

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    Let's be fair....... we were getting GASHED by Hillis at the time. We had the crowed the line, which left us real vulnerable to the pass. With GB running game, it should be a different story. We'll have more help on the backside.

    Not worried about Flynn.
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    I think thats a common misperception.
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    isn't this the kind of stuff everyone was saying about Brady in 2001?
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    With such an anemic running attack they eally need a top notch QB to be competitive. Just not seeing that out of Flynn based on last weeks display. Arm str looked avg and he is facing the hottest team in the league.

    GB just isnt built to win offensively with a game manager this year.
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    You guys are severely underestimating Flynn. He is not Aaron Rodgers by any means, or even Matt Cassel. But the guy has some skills and is a competent backup. We aren't facing a complete stiff.
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    Second this. There's an enormous difference between a 2nd-string QB and an "uh-oh, put on your helmet, quick!" QB.

    As for McCoy and Fitzpatrick, they're not chopped liver and they have a lot in common. Not the biggest, most impressive athletes; not the strongest arms. But they're generally smart, patient, accurate quarterbacks who take what you give them and don't make stupid mistakes. IOW, "game managers" -- a term that's often used dismissively, but I take it as a complement. And it seems to me that the game manager type is the type BB has the most trouble with.

    I can't claim to be a Matt Flynn expert, but I notice that in his pre-draft profile, nfldraftscout.com said the best NFL comparison was...Ryan Fitzpatrick. (And he even has the classic Irish surname to match Fitzpatrick and McCoy.)
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    Flynn is a poor man's Rodgers. Like Rodgers he can run and pass, but obviously he's not as polished in the passing game. Idk how much a week of practice can help him, but if he see's nothing down field he won't hesitate took tuck and run, so the D is gonna have to b on the look out for that. Not saying he's gonna gash the D but its something to be aware of.
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    I completely agree with Chevis Jackson. As an LSU alum and fan, I had a lot of opportunity to watch Flynn for several years when he was in college. I rarely miss an LSU game. And the kid is very smart and a winner. I can honestly say he is one of the smartest QBs I have seen in terms of not forcing throws and taking what the defense gives him. In that sense, he is like Tom Brady.

    What he lacks is a ton of talent. He doesn't have a huge arm or strength in the pocket. He is decently accurate and can move around a bit scrambling, but just isn't a great athlete.

    He is a winner. I can honestly say that. Just one of those kids who makes the team around him play better. And he is a leader. He lacks NFL experience, so I think Sunday could be tough for him. But given some extended experience I have no doubt the kid could turn into an effective game manager type QB who avoids mistakes and keeps his team in it then finds a way to lead them to wins at the end. I just don't expect that right away in his first NFL start and he probably will make some mistakes at first. But I'd never 100% count him out because I know he's a winner.

    J D Sal
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    I am sure he was prepared! Are you saying that any week, Brian Hoyer does nothing! Coaches know what can happen, and need to prepare all players! He might not have had the reps with the first team, but he had the gameplan!

    But what is his swagger rating? Thats the important one ;)
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    Rodgers now officially declared OUT. Matt Flynn to start.

    @AdamSchefter

    Now it's official. RT @TomSilverstein: Packers declare QB Aaron Rodgers out for Sunday's NE game. Backup Matt Flynn will start.
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