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    Ian's Daily Blog - What’s the difference between Colts quarterback Peyton Manning and New England Patriots QB Tom Brady?When the game is played on the world’s biggest stage (ie: the Super Bowl), Brady has clearly been the better player.We all know that Brady*has always been*cool under pressure, since unlike what fans saw from Manning tonight,*Brady has never thrown a [...]

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    Thank you, Patsfans and please STICKY this post..
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    I'll also point out:

    "Manning drops to 9-9 in the postseason with one title, while Brady is 14-4 with 3 rings."

    Very sad. :D
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    Such back-slapping of Brady is premature to say the least. He showed little of his grace under pressure this season, notwithstanding his come -back from injury, it remains to be seen if he can regain his 2007 composure. IMO, the team, as presently constituted, can't play in the same league with either of the SB opponents today. They are just quicker, stronger, faster, better. The Pats have a long way to go.
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    OK, and learn what he's talking about.

    If both died tonight, Brady would easily be considered better in the postseason. I realize it's a team game, but Manning has choked in ways Brady never has. Brady's game against Baltimore has happened to Manning like 3 times in the postseason, and Brady has never blown a super bowl like that.
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    A non-Pats fan critiquing a Manning apologist (paraphrased from an espn board)


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    But he couldn't drive it across the street against the 25th ranked d in the league? The vikings never played the raiders or the chiefs and they crushed the browns. not sure what your talking about with this post. Your QB isn 't the best of his era he gave that to Tom Brady tonight. sorry that is a fact. non debatable.
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    You can not take away what Brady has already done. eight years as a starter, 4 superbowls and 3 wins.
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    Brady is clearly #1 at QB. Brady has 4 super bowl appearances, 4 AFC Titles, 14-4 career playoff record, and hes also done more with less offensive talent. Besides the last 3 years, Brady never had elite options at WR like Manning had with Harrison, Wayne, and Clark. Patriots are also 2-1 in the playoffs vs Manning. The only win Manning had over NE was an epic comeback in which they only won by 4 pts. Brady and the Pats killed the Colts twice at home in the playoffs in 03 and 04.

    The bottomline is Brady was two lucky plays (Tyree catch off the helmet in 07 and Reggie Waynes fumble in 06 on the last drive of the game in which the ball landed right in his lap after being in the air forever) away from 5 super bowls! If Wayne didnt recover that fumble in 06, Manning would have zero SBs! I know you could say the same thing about the tuck rule in 01 but 03 and 04 was total domination!
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    come on...brady choked vs the Giants pass rush in 08 Superbowl. Manning will be back and Im sure Brady will be back too.
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    yeah...he choked the Pats to the lead with less than 2 minutes left in the game....Jets fan and moron are obviously interchangeable
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    im just being honest man. Brady was not able to withstand the pressure that the Giants created, just like any other QB. Manning AND Brady will both be back in the Super Bowl. I THINK/HOPE Sanchez will be there eventually too. (Im not a troll. I have always read these boards guys, dont hate me)
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    I have always read these boards guys, dont hate me)

    I don't hate you...I feel sorry for you...Brady led the Patriots to THE LEAD with 2 minutes left...the PATRIOTS DEFENSE GAVE UP THE WINNING SCORE...Brady did EXACTLY what was needed to WIN that game at the end...don't start inventing these mythical "he blew the game!!!!!" canards and expect them to go unchallenged.
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    You're dumb. How does a QB choke by throwing 0 ints against a pass-rush? The O-line choked, not a one-legged Brady...

    In fact, in the last 3 minutes of the game Brady led a drive that ended in 6...but to be fair, so did Manning...
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    I understand the argument that the Oline let Brady down but he is known as one of the best QB's of all time. He got rattled and was sacked 5 times. Brady was only 29/48 which is just about 50% for the game. On the season he averaged 69 percent.
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    Brady completed 60% of his passes in the Super Bowl. Manning was sacked once and had virtually all day to throw for most of the game. No doubt Brady could have scored more points, but Manning led his team to only 3 more than Brady. And Brady didn't lose the game when everything was on the line.

    The 2007 Giants were a much tougher defense than the Saints. There is no argument there.
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    Actually, he led the team on what should have been a game winning drive with a TD pass to Moss with 2 minutes left in the game. It was the defense that **** the bed at the end of that one. Brady did his job.
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    Brady is a better QB then Manning period.
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    Manning did blow the game tonight. I agree and I couldnt be more happier to agree after how smug he was in his press conference after beating the Jets. Brady did go 29/48, essentially 55% in the Superbowl, when he was close to 70% in the regular season that year. Brady and Manning will both be back though
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    Better than either Manning!

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    Really? Last I checked Brady drove his team down field in the final minutes to give us a lead. Which would have gone down as the most clutch drive ever considering what was on the line, and how the Giants were playing defensivly. Then a miracle play happened and the Giants won.

    The Giants however, were better than the Pats on that day.
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    Brady didn't perform very well in that game, so I guess it constitutes a choke, but, when the pressure was on, he put his team in position to win. Manning threw a pick-six that put the game out of reach.
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    Last night's game definitely helps Brady's case and I hope makes people appreciate more what Brady did from '01-'04, and just how important rings are in this debate. While Manning was flawless for 95% of the game and wasn't the sole reason Indy lost, he did come up short when it mattered most. Teams win and lose games, but the true greats find ways to win more often than others. The Colts defense in these playoffs averaged under 15 ppg, that's better than any of our defenses did the years Brady got rings. Both teams have had contender-quality teams since '03 and Brady might have had a couple teams ('03,'04) that were better than any Colts team, but overall both have had about equal opportunities for rings in terms of supporting casts.

    Manning has the regular season advantage but Brady still has the playoff advantage. There's still lots of football to be played for both QB's. I'd say if things stay this way, and Brady stays at least 2 rings ahead of Manning, he'll ultimately go down as the better QB. This game was one of the key pivotal points in the debate, if Manning didn't throw that pick and led his team to an overtime win, that performance would have put him on top IMO.
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    Has anyone pointed out that Brady would have to have thrown 10 more consecutive incompletions to get down to 50%?
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    He choked?

    He threw an interception?

    No.

    He went back to pass 50 times, threw 30 completions and about 275 yards and a TD.

    He also lead his team to a TD on its last viable possession of the game (assuming of course, it's nearly impossible to go 85 yards in 30 seconds when they got the ball back, even though his heave to Randy Moss was spot on).

    Brady has one interception in four Super Bowls, and Peyton has four in two.

    Finally, the Saints did to the Colts what the Giants did to the Patriots. They rushed one extra guy and had an extra DB in the game at all times. They were begging the Colts to run, and the Colts did. Meanwhile, all the running shortened up the game, but the Saints knew that in the end, Manning like Brady would get frustrated and pass the ball against a zone flooded with defenders. Impossible to throw in those conditions, so you just have to run the ball and make sure your defense stops the opposition.

    In his chance, Brady lead his team downfield for the touchdown when the game was on the line, while Peyton threw an interception.
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    29 divided by 48 is not "essentially" 55%, it's 60%. Learn how to do math. And he played against an all-time great defensive line: Michael Strahan, Justin Tuck, Umenyiora, AND Fred Robbins all having career years.

    Manning lost the game for his team in the 4th quarter and only managed to score 3 more points against a much weaker defense.
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