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    Good find on that article, Braffordpatsfan. Will be interesting if the local media picks up on it tomorrow.

    Hopefully it is what the guy says it is. A phone call about a future training session and never contact again.
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    two words: NOT GOOD :eek::(:eek:

    it's the appearance of impropriety.

    Anderson (i.e. the juice distributor) unfortunately has singled out Tom from 10-20 other athletes who contacted him by phone. You can try to spin that in a positive way, but unless there was something serious going on here, you don't protect Tom's image by only naming him -- my guess is Anderson had little choice because the grand jury/ feds are putting serious pressure on him (i.e. prison for not just the 18 months the grand jury lasts, but a longer sentence for perjury).

    this means they could very well be on a witch hunt and could very well be targeting our QB.

    yeah, Tom and Barry are friends, and he spends a lot of time with family in the Bay Area and probably needs a personal trainer, or might just have called him as a favor to Barry, but the bottom line is that if there was nothing going on here, there would not have been any need to single him out in his statement...why JUST Tom??, why not "defend" (i.e. destroy the reputation) of all others named in the story.

    look, it's obvious the league has a substance abuse problem. This will eventually catch up to the league like it has with MLB. In fact, the league has been plagued by drugs for decades. The bigger picture is that we're headed for a massive train wreck in the NFL over rampant use of banned growth enablers, and this could just be the first crack...

    it will be interesting to see how this develops tomorrow...it could easily blow up (lots of guys have a big stake in the image of the League, but the government isn't one of them), and you always get rogues who force the mainstream media to tackle the issue. If I'm right about the feds' intentions to expand the investigation outside of baseball and Bonds, and possibly make an example out of the NFL's golden boy (this would essentially be a nuclear bomb for the entire league -- if HE could be on juice then are there any players who aren't?) then Anderson's statement could just be the beginning.

    the suspicion of doubt is a very cruel thing...those who don't want to give him a pass will have every reason not to. headline will read: "Bond's Supplier Defends Brady" -- NOT GOOD.

    p.s. gotta believe Anderson's lawyer gave Yee a head's up on receipt of the subpoena...Tom had to know about this for a while. Did he not miss practice this morning and suck in the afternoon?...this all went down today on the west coast and it's hitting the wires after primetime for a reason.

    NOT GOOD
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    p.s. I desperately hope I'm way off base here and totally overreacting...
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    You are. The only reason they singled out Tom Brady is that he is Tom Brady. This seems pretty clear to me : "Greg Anderson also evoked the name of New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, saying the two had spoken over the phone but never made further contact".
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    No, no, no... you're right on base. And it just so happens I've got the perfect insurance policy, almost tailor-made for you, to cover you in the event that you're right (or wrong, really).

    It's around here somewhere, hope I can dig it out.
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    witty reply :singing:.

    I understand this is a fan board, I'm normally with you.

    try to occasionally get out of the new england debate paradigm...nobody's looking for "insurance."

    I ACTUALLY WANT TO BE WRONG....serious. I'll be the first to come back to this thread and celebrate how stupid I am.

    but anyone who sees this as good pub goes from fan to insane.
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    Obviously it's not "good pub". It'll pretty much be irrelevant though.
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    They seem to have and there is no big deal... being reported as it is, no embellishment or grandiosity.
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    Are you kidding me? They spoke on the phone once, and "never made further contact", and this is what you got out of it?

    Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    It doesn't say WHEN either. If in the winter of '01 after his rookie year Tom was back in CA and asked around for a trainer then maybe he was given Anderson's name and made a call, maybe he called 20 trainers out there. This would have been before all this other crap came out about Anderson and I would be shocked if Brady contacted him since then. Besides what does the eyeball test tell you?
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    Re: Bonds' trainer mentions Brady and????

    mentions and..there is no more....no contact..no nothing.. Uf this guy was a well known trainer....and Tom was looking for one in the area..calling and inquiring is hardly anything serious...
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    I agree, no news is much better news, in this particular case. It should also be emphasized that merely mentioning Brady -- even if they have nothing on him -- sends the shot across the NFL's bow, whereas mention of Johnathan Sullivan would have little effect.

    My final "Don't worry, the kool-aid's not juiced" point: You guys ever watch Law and Order? It's not like Canseco's book named Brady for the general public's pleasure. He'd be a big fish and all that, but unless there is an iron-clad case for persistent abuse, you have to look at him as one of those "normally I don't fool around with it but this one time at band camp...." guys. I mean, LOOK at him. He could have taken it to make something heal better, if he'd ever been INJURED.... but you can't really argue that TB shows all the signs of steroid abuse.

    So, that makes him the guy you "flip," if you ever watch Law & Order... if they have SOMETHING on Brady, they give him the choice of getting a heavy "ping" (and it would be a first offense... look what it took for Ricky to have to play in Canada...) or, to avoid the "ping," he'd have to roll over on somebody who DID use and abuse.

    To me, that somebody would obviously have to be either the record-book-assaulting Peyton Manning, Brady's off-season buddy, or Team Leader Willie McGinnest -- I mean, how can you get a 4-sack game in your mid 30s without juice? Can't be done! Or, of course, the freakishly fast Bethel Johnson. Or, a certain NFL Head Coach who cut himself shaving a year ago, and has been topically applying the stuff to his chin ever since...

    PFnV
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    You sure you're not the one on the juice????
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    Too funny,

    Unfortunately if this story spins out of control it will be thanks to people like you who will make this story more then Brady having one phone conversation with a trainer who at the time was just considered the best trainer in the area, nothing more.

    Thanks!
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    Wow, taildragger! Conspiracy theorist par excellence!
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    explains why tom got sooooo big and sooo fast. too much power in his arms from the juice and hes been overthrowing people in camp. dayumm


    but seriously..Anderson is a trainer..Brady was looking for trainer..i doubt he would want roids..hes accomplished enough to ruin a tremendous reputation..unlike Barry who wanted to get big and keep hitting homers..Brady's won 3 SBs being a slow but great QB
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    Did it cross your mind, that in the BRIEF conversation that they had, Anderson mentioned steroids to Brady and he didn't want anything to do with them; and as a result, that's why the conversation was so BRIEF.
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    WEEI is reporting that it was Anderson that called BRADY!
    ...one phone call that Brady turned down his 'offer'...seems to me like Tom Brady comes out smelling like roses again!
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    If Brady had put twenty-thirty pounds of muscle on in the off-season(as in Bonds,Sosa)this might be a concern,he didnt,way too smart for this sort of thing....a tempest in a teapot.
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    thanks for the clarification folks.

    I understand what Anderson said in his statement...one conversation...potential work out...didn't tell anyone (if you believe this I have a bridge to sell you).

    Given this guy's total lack of credibility, the questions we should be asking are:

    1. will the grand jury (who is in possession of some kind of evidence and is pushing this on Tom) take Anderson at his word.
    2. will the media take Anderson at his word.

    This guy is pleading the fifth on Bonds but everyone's suddenly in la la land when the court demands a response from Anderson on Brady in an investigation which originally had a much smaller scope.

    there are so many holes in this Anderson guy I can't even believe you are all dismissing this based on his testimony...10-20 names???...they know EXACTLY how many guys are named and carefully decided, for some reason, to single out Tom in the statement.

    Why am I the only one here pissed off at the inquiry???

    THIS IS YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK PEOPLE...WAKE THE F UP


    p.s. everyone knows Tom put on 20-25 pounds in a calendar year...that's why I'm afraid people will start connecting dots...EVEN WHERE THEY DON'T EXIST.
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    I don't think it's going to be irrelevant. After what has transpired, pretty much everyone is going to assume that there is only one reason why a professional athlete would call this particular trainer and it's not to learn how to run faster. I have no doubt that Brady is clean but there are going to be alot of questions after this and if nothing else, it has tarnished what was a spotless reputation. I don't know about you but I don't even want to hear any accusations about the players on my team whether they're valid or not.
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    People like you will make this a story where there is none!
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    Sarge, I appreciate your belief in my power of persuasion, but I'm pretty sure the grand jury won't turn on what I say in a message board.

    My guess, despite Taildragger's conclusion, is non-story. However I feel pretty good about Tom's chances with the league, given his squeeky clean performance thus far. We can all live without this kind of stuff, but if there's anything to it, as I said, people get themselves stoned out of their minds on illegal drugs, and still get three strikes before they're out. I don't remember - did they change that this year? I still don't think they're at first-offense-1-year-suspension-mode, are they? If not, even in the worst case, we're okay.

    Sheesh.

    PFnV
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    Did you hear Jermaine call up Dennis and Callahan stating that he bet the media wouldn't even mention this?

    Of course, his position is that if the media doesn't instantly treat Brady the same way it treats Barry Bonds (who of course actually admitted to *unknowingly* using steroids) than it proves the media is racist.

    But let's let the chips fall where they may... since Bonds and Brady went to the same high school its not completely out of the realm of possibility that Brady might seek out local trainers for when he was back in CA
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    well put.

    I could've saved myself some humiliation here if I'd just said that instead of thinking out loud.

    look, I have no conclusions. I'm an idiot for thinking this through on this board but honestly my friends are mainly fans of other teams and they're sick of me using them as a sounding board.

    good news is that I don't see this being reported this morning on the major outlets.

    although failed conspiracies happen all the time, I'm not conspiracy theorist...just a tad paranoid when it comes to our franchise qb.
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    Mike Greenberg is talking about it right now on ESPN Radio (Mike & MIKE Show). Sure is getting a lot of play for one phone call.
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    I said people like you. Of course you probably know that.

    Nice try though!
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