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  1. NG Pats Fan

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    Since 2000 :bricks:
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    You mean like Brandon Lloyd?
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    I am a big fan of Lloyd, but he is not young and he is not tall.
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    The Pats run a lot of more precision timing routes that usually favor smaller receivers than bigger ones. Bigger receivers usually have more problems making the breaks and cuts in this offense.

    It is a system thing.

    The Pats have 5 Super Bowl appearances and three wins since 2000 with Brady breaking passing records and getting two MVP awards. Are you arguing their system since 2000 of not getting young big talented WRs is a failure?
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    That is true. The only tall young WR I can think of that the Pats have picked up since then was P.K. Sam in 2004, drafted in the 5th round, at 6'3" tall.

    The tallest WR's in the BB era were Donald Hayes (age 27, 2002 season), J.J. Stokes (age 31, 2003 season), and Randy Moss (age 30, 2007-2010 seasons), all three at 6'4" tall.
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    And only Moss succeeded and that was because they revised the offense to fit his skill set. They will do that with an established future HOF WR, but aren't going to do that with a rookie.
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    We already have two tall receivers that we use a lot. We just call the Tight Ends. Quick twitch, precise guys (i.e. almost always smaller) are the guys that compliment them the best.
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    Nope but young receivers are allergic to being able to know this system like Tom does.
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    Now that BB has finally drafted a pass rusher early, is this what we have to look forward to on the message board? Threads to gripe about WR?
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    I understand where you're going with this (and your frustration), but I could not find any correlation whatsoever between productivity and either height, weight, age, or method of acquisition.


    Let's take a look and see the receivers that the Pats have added in the Belichick era. Players that never made a roster were not included.


    2000:
    Shockmain Davis (23) 6-0, 205 - UDFA
    Curtis Jackson (23) 5-10, 190 - UDFA
    Chris Calloway (32) 5-10, 188 - vet FA

    2001:
    Fred Coleman (26) 6-0, 190 - FA
    Bert Emmanuel (31) 5-10, 180 - vet FA
    Charles Johnson (29) 6-0, 200 - vet FA
    David Patten (27) 5-10, 190 - vet FA
    Torrance Small (31) 6-3, 209 - vet FA

    2002:
    Deion Branch (23) 5-9, 195 - 2nd round, 65th pick
    David Givens (22) 6-0, 212 - 7th round, 253rd pick
    Donald Hayes (27) 6-4, 220 - FA

    2003:
    Bethel Johnson (24) 5-11, 200 - 2nd round, 45th pick
    J. J. Stokes (31) 6-4, 218 - veteran FA

    2004:
    Kevin Kasper (27) 6-1, 197 - vet FA
    P.K. Sam (21) 6-3, 210 - 5th round, 164th pick

    2005:
    Bam Childress (23) 5-10, 185 - UDFA
    Andre' Davis (26) 6-1, 195 - FA
    Tim Dwight (30) 5-8, 180 - FA

    2006:
    Reche Caldwell (27) 6-0, 215 - FA
    Doug Gabriel (26) 6-2, 215 - FA
    Jabar Gaffney (26) 6-1, 205 - FA
    Chad Jackson (21) 6-1, 205 - 2nd round, 36th pick
    Kelvin Kight (24) 6-0, 209 - UDFA
    Jonathan Smith (25) 5-10, 194 - FA

    2007:
    Randy Moss (30) 6-4, 215 - trade
    Donte' Stallworth (27) 6-0, 197 - vet FA
    Kelley Washington (28) 6-3, 218 - vet FA
    Wes Welker (26) 5-9, 190 - trade

    2008:
    Sam Aiken (28) 6-2, 204 - FA

    2009:
    Julian Edelman (23) 6-0, 198 - 7th round, 232nd pick
    Joey Galloway (38) 5-11, 197 - vet FA
    Isaiah Stanback (25) 6-3, 216 - FA
    Brandon Tate (22) 6-1, 195 - 3rd round, 83rd pick

    2010:
    Taylor Price (23) 6-0, 204 - 3rd round, 90th pick

    2011:
    Tiquan Underwood (24) 6-1, 180 - FA
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    Do you think taller receivers would have caught more than the 1000+ that the salt and pepper midgets have in that span?
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    Marvin Mcnutt, Jeff Fuller, and Tommy Streeter all on the board in the 6th-7th round and instead we chose to wait for a tiny slot WR Jeremy Ebert? Belichick views the Wide Receiver position very different than most.
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    Yeah, tiny slot receivers are never valuable.
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    huh?

    THIS is all you have to say after the past three days??...complaints???

    change teams..try the Lions or the Cards..then you can root for who most view as you do...problem solved

    you're a bust as a Patriot fans anyway
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