40 man Roster Core & The End Of the Roster

[patsinthesnow]

Out of everyone's 40 or JMTs "locks" who is this year's shock cut?

 

[belichick010405]

50-50:
QB -
RB - Bolden, Blount
WR - Moe, Jenkins
TE - Hoomanawanui, Fells
OT - Zusevics, Svitek
G/C - N McDonald, Klein, C McDonald

50-50:
DT - Forston
DE - Cunningham, Vega
LB - Fletcher, Koutouvides
CB - Dowling, Cole
S - Gregory, Ebner

Take 7 guys -

I choose Bolden (kickoff return duties while showing adequate skills as a every down running back.

Hoomanwanui (in-line tight end who is adequate as a receiving option)

Zusevics (because he has a year into the Patriots system, is a former tight end and is considered an above average athlete)

McDonald (because he has been in the system and can play either center or guard)

And then with the final three spots allocated on defense: Cunningham, Dowling (if he is healthy) and one of the following: Gregory (special teamer and potential nickle/dime back), Fortson, Fletcher, Cole, Ebner...

Moe gets to spend the year on the practice squad.

 

[jmt57]

Out of everyone's 40 or JMTs "locks" who is this year's shock cut?

I would say the most likely from that group would be one of the Wilsons.

 

[belichick010405]

I would say the most likely from that group would be one of the Wilsons.

My biggest "shocker" will be: Leon Washington.

 

[Ivan]

I expect that these 40 positions get almost all of the non-ST reps and provide backups. IMHO, there can be considerable flexibility on the other THIRTEEN roster spots (plus Practice Squad). The bottom 13 includes special teamers, developmental players and additional positional backups. IMHO, we need the players/positions below to play plus Sters (including returners).
I would be fine by only having the below active with the rest being STers and returners.

OFFENSE (17)
QB 2 Brady/ Mallett

WR 3 Amendola/ Dobson/ Boyce

TE 2 Gronkowski/ Hernandez

RB 3 Ridley/ Vereen/ Bolden


OL 7 Solder/ Mankins/ Wendell/ Connolly/ Vollmer (McDonald/ Cannon)

DEFENSE (19)

DL 8 Wilfork/ Kelly/ Jones/ Ninkovich/ Love/ Deaderick/ Francis/ Armstead

LB 4 Spikes/ Mayo/ Hightower/ Collins

CB 4 Dennard/ Talib/ Arrington/ I-Dowling

S 3 McCourty/ A. Wilson/ T. Wilson

SPECIALISTS (4)

K 1 Gostkowski

P 1 Mesko

LS 1 LS


ST 1 Slater

 

[Ring 6]

I expect that these 40 positions get almost all of the non-ST reps and provide backups. IMHO, there can be considerable flexibility on the other THIRTEEN roster spots (plus Practice Squad). The bottom 13 includes special teamers, developmental players and additional positional backups. IMHO, we need the players/positions below to play plus Sters (including returners).
I would be fine by only having the below active with the rest being STers and returners.

OFFENSE (17)
QB 2
WR 3
TE 2
RB 3
OL 7

DEFENSE (19)
DL 8
LB 4
CB 4
S 3

SPECIALISTS (4)
K 1
P 1
LS 1
ST 1

8th DL (who wouldn't even be active) over 3rd TE?
Have to add TE3. I'd probably go with 6 DL in the top 40 and add a LB.

 

[JFK]

Out of everyone's 40 or JMTs "locks" who is this year's shock cut?

Slater. I hope we could find someone who can do what he does and more.

 

[patsfan13]

Slater. I hope we could find someone who can do what he does and more.

Can't see a Pro Bowl player/Captain getting cut.

 

[belichick010405]

In case of who I would like to see lose his job because his job is purely a specialist job, it is Danny Aiken. I'm sorry but I want a long snapper do a lot more than just snapping the damn ball.

 

[mgteich]

1) I made the change at TE and DL.

2) With regard to the 5th LB, I consider that a ST roster spot.

8th DL (who wouldn't even be active) over 3rd TE?
Have to add TE3. I'd probably go with 6 DL in the top 40 and add a LB.

 

[JFK]

Why 40 and not 46? I guess we shuffle 13+ based on injuries and matchup?

 

[Sciz]

Slater. I hope we could find someone who can do what he does and more.

There's a better chance Slater is still playing for the Pats in 2023 than that he's not in 2013.

 

[mgteich]

I've added the returners and made the total 42. The remaining 4 actives likely includes a couple of LB/STers, a DB/Ster and a roster spot that depends on matchups.

Why 40 and not 46? I guess we shuffle 13+ based on injuries and matchup?

 

[Fencer]

I
I would be fine by only having the below active with the rest being STers and returners.

OFFENSE (17)
QB 2
WR 3
TE 2
RB 3
OL 7

DEFENSE (19)
DL 8
LB 4
CB 4
S 3

SPECIALISTS (4)
K 1
P 1
LS 1
ST 1

First quibbles:

• There's such a thing as a 3-TE set.
• Your in-game backup for shotgun RB is -- a power RB?
• Your in-game backup for the guys used in 5-receiver sets is -- Vereen?

 

[mgteich]

1) I corrected the 40 to 42 by including returners (Edelman and Washington).
2) I added a 3rd TE and reduced the LB's by 1.
3) And no, I would not have a 5th WR active to be used only in 5 WR sets. For that one or two plays, Hernandez or Vereen can be one of the receivers.
4) I would not want a 5th RB active, even if we had one on the team. 4 is plenty.

First quibbles:

• There's such a thing as a 3-TE set.
• Your in-game backup for shotgun RB is -- a power RB?
• Your in-game backup for the guys used in 5-receiver sets is -- Vereen?

 

[Leemo]

I have a really strong feeling that TJ Moe makes the final 53

 

[Fencer]

1) I corrected the 40 to 42 by including returners (Edelman and Washington).
2) I added a 3rd TE and reduced the LB's by 1.
3) And no, I would not have a 5th WR active to be used only in 5 WR sets. For that one or two plays, Hernandez or Vereen can be one of the receivers.
4) I would not want a 5th RB active, even if we had one on the team. 4 is plenty.

1) & 2). Good!
3) You only had 3 WRs when I wrote that (pre-Edelman, I presume). Oh, wait -- you also had Slater. Sorry.
4) You only had 3 RBs when I wrote that (pre-Washington, I presume).

I look forward to the next version, but probably names would help. Few enough doubts in the top 42 (injuries aside) that names + a few placeholders should suffice.

 

[BTTA]

The other possible shocker that comes to mind is if Ridley has ongoing concussion related problems. I pray otherwise but am still concerned, given the magnitude of that hit.

 

[JFK]

The other possible shocker that comes to mind is if Ridley has ongoing concussion related problems. I pray otherwise but am still concerned, given the magnitude of that hit.

Oh that would be so bad. I pray not. I think he is fine

 

[mgteich]

A) Edelman, Washington and Slater are listed under STer's.
B) I see Bolden/Blount as the key roster fight in the top 42 positions. Both could make the 53, with one always being inactive.
C) The final 11 are usually where we focus/argue the most. Of course, these positions matter least in the sense that they will get few reps, absent injuries, other than on Special Teams.
D) There are no other players that I think are critically needed on the 53.

OFFENSE (18)
QB 2 Brady, Mallett
WR 3 Amendola, Boyce, Dobson
TE 3 Hernandez, Gronkowski, Ballard
RB 3 Ridley, Vareen, Bolden/Blount
OL 7 Solder, Mankins, Wendell, Connolly, Vollmer, Cannon, McDonald

DEFENSE (18)
DL 7 Ninkovich, Kelly, Armstead, Wilfork, Jones, Francis, Love
LB 4 Mayo, Spikes, Hightower, Collins
CB 4 Talib, Dennard, Arrington, Ryan
S 3 McCourty, T. Wilson, A. Wilson

SPECIALISTS (6)
K 1 Gostkowski
P 1 Mesko
LS 1 Aiken
ST 1 Slater
R 2 Edelman, Washington

1) & 2). Good!
3) You only had 3 WRs when I wrote that (pre-Edelman, I presume). Oh, wait -- you also had Slater. Sorry.
4) You only had 3 RBs when I wrote that (pre-Washington, I presume).

I look forward to the next version, but probably names would help. Few enough doubts in the top 42 (injuries aside) that names + a few placeholders should suffice.