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I think I would have Foreman just behind Fournette in this stacked RB class. If you can get him at the top of the 2nd round, I think that is tremendous value.
 
He's a nice player for sure.


What's/Who's your rough top 3 picks?
 
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Lamar Jackson, Louisville

Jackson continues to roll through the opposition, and even with a close win against Virginia, he still stands alone as the top quarterback in the land. He leads the nation with 772 yards on 101 designed runs (7.6 yards per attempt) to go with his 16 touchdowns. That ability to run the ball within the flow of the offense has opened up the passing game for Louisville, a big reason why Jackson is throwing for 316 yards per game. We’ll take him as our starting quarterback and build the entire offense around his special skill set.

Really can't wait to see this kid develop.

Running backs
Dalvin Cook, Florida State

It’s been a different season for Cook who created more big plays last season, but inconsistent run blocking has hurt the overall stats. He’s still performed well, leading the nation with 49 missed tackles forced and he showed his speed and angle-changing ability in Florida State’s near-upset of Clemson last weekend. Few running backs can take over a game like Cook, and his big-play potential remains the best in the nation.

I have Cook as 2nd right now. Not on my radar for Patriots.

Donnel Pumphrey, San Diego State

A Dream Team debut for Pumphrey who has churned out four 200-plus yard games this season. He’s quick and shifty, ranking right behind Cook with 46 missed tackles forced and he has the nation’s top rushing grade at 86.0.

Could be a nice late td cop back

Wide receivers
Corey Davis, Western Michigan

I assume everyone tuned into the Corey Davis Show on Tuesday night over Game 6 of the Word Series, as he went off for 272 yards on 12 receptions while scoring three touchdowns. Davis is an outstanding route runner with the skills to create after the catch and down the field, he’s a Dream Team lock unless injury strikes.

Poor man Reggie Wayne???

Dede Westbrook, Oklahoma

We’ve vaulted Westbrook right into the Heisman conversation as he’s been that dominant in recent weeks. His “Maybrook” connection with Oklahoma QB Baker Mayfield is the nation’s best as they’ve found the downfield chemistry to carry that offense. Westbrook has made big plays after the catch as well, and he now has 40 catches for 881 yards (22 yards per reception0 and 11 touchdowns over his last five games alone).

This kid screams Pats

Jonathan Giles, Texas Tech

We’re moving to Giles in the slot as he leads all Power-5 receivers with 905 yards from the slot while ranking second with 3.24 yards per route. He’s become the top weapon for the Texas Tech passing game, and we’ll use him as a slot and vertical threat.

Tight end
Evan Engram, Ole Miss

The top-graded receiving tight end at 87.4, Engram also leads all tight ends with 700 receiving yards. He can move around the formation to make plays and we’ll use his athleticism out wide, in the slot and out of the backfield. Engram has been just ok as a run blocker, but he’s shown well in recent years, enough to have confidence that he’s not a complete liability in the run game.

Huge Engram fan if it wasn't clear lol. I love this kid. Even with his limitations he can do some serious thangs with the ball. Hope he comes to combine ripped up at 220-225 and runs under 4.6. His hips and hops are both legit.

Offensive tackles
Connor Williams, Texas

Sticking with Williams at tackle as he’s allowed only two pressures all season, but it’s his run-blocking that has taken a massive step forward this season. His 84.0 grade is second in the nation as he uses his athleticism to make key second-level blocks in Texas’ power-run game.

Forrest Lamp, Western Kentucky

For three straight years, Lamp has been outstanding in our grading system and he currently ranks second among tackles at 86.7. He’s allowed only one pressure all season while showing better in pass protection than any other tackle against Alabama. He’s allowed only 27 pressures (three sacks, eight hits, 16 hurries) on 1,465 attempts dating back to 2014.

Alabama threw everyone at him and then some. He didn't flinch. Not just a variety of rushers but various twists/Stunts etc.

Guards
Dan Feeney, Indiana

While he missed some time due to injury, Feeney has played well when healthy, now ranking fourth in the nation at 86.4 overall. He’s always been outstanding in pass protection and he’s only allowed one pressure on 116 attempts this season, bringing his three-year total to 15 pressures on 1,016 snaps. His run blocking has improved every year, and he now ranks fourth in the country at 86.1.

Love him as well. Both are top 64guys imo.

Cody O’Connell, Washington State

With scheme help or not, O’Connell sits atop our guard rankings at 91.3, allowing only five pressures all season and he’s currently the top run blocker at 88.3. O’Connell is one of the nation’s breakout stars and it will be difficult to unseat him on the team during the stretch run.

The Washington State scheme is generally easier on offensive linemen, but O’Connell has exceeded even the highest expectations with the highest grade among the nation’s guards at 90.1. He’s allowed only four pressures on 351 attempts while providing better run blocking than Mike Leach is used to having at guard in his Air Raid system.

Center
Frank Ragnow, Arkansas

The top run-blocking center in the nation at 86.1, Ragnow works well to the second level while rarely losing blocks against opposing nose tackles. A favorite of SEC analyst Gordon McGuinness, Ragnow caps his well-rounded game with an 82.3 grade in pass protection.

Edge rushers
Myles Garrett, Texas A&M

Injuries have slowed Garrett in recent weeks, but he still performed well in Texas A&M’s loss to Alabama before sitting out last week. When healthy, he’s the nation’s most explosive pass-rusher and one of the most productive at 89.5 (fourth) but it’s his improved ability against the run that has turned heads this season (87.7 grade ranks third in nation).

Just like E.E. , Garrett is favorite one mine.

Derek Barnett, Tennessee

Barnett and Garrett are forever linked as their production since stepping in as true freshmen in 2014 has been outstanding. Barnett is now the top-graded pass-rusher in the Power-5 at 91.5 where he’s notched nine sacks, 13 hits, and 22 hurries on 234 rushes while continuing his strong play against the run.

Hes made himself a lot of money this year and clearly learned from Nke on what not to do.

Defensive interior
Dexter Lawrence, Clemson

Houston’s Ed Oliver was the first true freshman defensive lineman to make the Dream Team two weeks ago, and this time it’s Lawrence’s turn who has been right there with Oliver all season from a grading standpoint. He ranks sixth among interior defensive linemen at 87.6 and seventh against the run at 87.1 and he’s now up to four sacks, eight hits, and 17 hurries as a pass-rusher.

Man I love Ed Oliver but Lawrence deserves this. Both are just filthy dirty rotten and will be terrorizing offenses for a years and years.


Jonathan Allen, Alabama

This is a no-brainer as Allen is the most disruptive player in the nation this season and the top-graded interior defensive lineman at 92.3 overall. His 94.8 pass rush grade also leads the way, fueled by six sacks, seven hits, and 27 hurries on 242 rushes while still grading at 85.3 against the run.

So consistently disruptive. Just a beast with his hands.

Linebacker
Zach Cunningham, Vanderbilt

The No. 3 linebacker against the run at 88.1, Cunningham beats blockers with his great hands while using his athleticism to find the ball carrier. He leads the Power-5 linebackers with 49 stops and if he can just cut down on his 12 missed tackles, he could push to be the best linebacker in the country.

Reuben Foster, Alabama

The top-graded linebacker in the country at 92.5, Foster has been the nation’s best all-around player at the position. He has the top grade against the run at 89.5 while ranking 12th in coverage at 87.8, topping it off with sure tackling as he’s only missed two all season.

Jarrad Davis, Florida

An attacker in the run game, Davis ranks fourth at 87.9 against the run while getting after the quarterback with two sacks, four hits and 10 hurries as a pass rusher. He’s added three pass break ups in coverage while generally keeping the ball in front of him in coverage.

All these backers are probably on the Patriots radar. Great class.

Cornerbacks
Desmond King, Iowa

The best tackling corner in the country, it’s always fun to cite King’s three-year missed tackle total that now sits at only seven misses on 177 attempts. He has the nation’s No. 3 grade against the run at 86.1 while grading well in coverage at 88.5 as he’s the nation’s most well-rounded corner.

This kid just performs every week. Hes versatile and consistent. What he lacks in athleticism he makes for X's 10 in technique.

Jaire Alexander, Louisville

Welcome to the team, Jaire, who now sits atop our cornerback grades at 90.7 overall including a 90.1 coverage grade. He’s been the best playmaker on the Louisville defense, picking off five passes and getting his hands on four more. He’s added a touchdown on a punt return in a breakout season.

Love this kid. Player all year. He def has the look.

Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama

Manning the slot for the Dream Team, Fitzpatrick can play the run, blitz off the edge, and of course cover where he’s grading at 84.8 in coverage this season. He’s gotten his hands on seven passes this season (three interceptions, four passes defensed) while playing sound run defense as a versatile piece of the Alabama defense.

I'd take Lewis here but Fitz has had a nice well rounded year. Man that team is crazy. Lewis is a favorite of mine and I think could be shut down in the slot.

Safeties
Jabrill Peppers, Michigan

We’re putting Peppers at strong safety on our team, letting him road around the line of scrimmage to use his 83.7 run-stopping grade to use while covering running backs and tight ends. He’s a movable chess piece on the Michigan defense and we may just see more of him on offense down the stretch.

Nate Gerry, Nebraska

The best playmaking free safety in the country, Gerry leads the way with a 94.9 coverage grade, just as he led the nation in 2014. He’s cut down on his missed tackles this season, missing four on 57 attempts and he’s managed four interceptions and five passed defensed as he’s quietly been one of the best defensive players in the country.

With the top coverage grade among the nation’s safeties at 92.1, Gerry has two interceptions and three passes defensed while improving his tackling issues with only two misses on 40 attempts. He was outstanding in coverage in 2014 and he’s gotten back to those ways this season.
 
Corey Davis is my favorite receiver this year. He reminds me of a bigger, more physical Malcolm Mitchell. I love that he's had several low reception or yardage games, but he's blocked hard and celebrated with his teammates when they did well, even though it was starting to look like he might not break the record for most yards. Every interview I've seen with him or his coaches, it's all about the team and putting in the hard work to succeed. Zero doubt in my mind that he will be an excellent receiver in any scheme. There's a reason he'll likely break the all time receiving record.

I'm just afraid now that with his big breakout game on national TV, he's going to fly up draft boards, and end up out of reach. We have more important needs than WR in the first, but there's no way he lasts until the second. Great player though. Very fiery competitor, and has all the physical tools you look for in a high draft pick. He's what we all wanted Dobson to become. He's got size and speed, he attacks the ball, runs all the routes, and blocks aggressively. Great player who has long term production and excellent measurables. Easy first round player.

Edit: watch his highlight catches from the last game. Seriously talented WR.

Western Michigan vs. Ball State - Game Videos - November 1, 2016 - ESPN
 
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I've mentioned Foreman before, but he's having another big day. I don't think he's rushed for fewer than 120 yards in any game this year. He's over 200 already for the day, and it's still the third quarter. He might post back to back 250 yard games. Monster talent.

D'Onta Foreman
 
He has like 8-9 in a row ?

What do you think about Sprinkle?

Also if you could only pick from one team for 3 defensive picks which team and what players?

Michigan, Alabama, Florida, Washington, LSU or OSU
 
He has like 8-9 in a row ?

What do you think about Sprinkle?

Also if you could only pick from one team for 3 defensive picks which team and what players?

Michigan, Alabama, Florida, Washington, LSU or OSU

Ohhhh, interesting question. In all likelihood, you could probably make a case for any of these schools as #1.

For me, I think Bama probably wins out. Allen is such an incredible player. Williams, Foster, and Humphreys are all so good. Michigan and Washington are perhaps neck and neck, but if Vea can improve his technique, then they have the lead. I'd put OSU and Florida just a notch below, but OSU is super talented. It's really too close to call.

Alabama just held LSU to 125 yards of total offense and 0 points. Hard to beat that.
 
I just watched that game and was amazed at how much defensive talent there was on the field.

There really has the makings of an incredible defensive draft.

Absolutely stacked : CB, LB, S, DL classes

Running back is right there as well.
 
2017 1st round draft picks on alabama's defense:

Dl Allen - best player in college football.
Olb Tim Williams - looks great coming off the edge.
De/olb the other williams - ditto.
Ilb foster - scariest hitter in college football and fast enough to cover.
CB Humphrey - tremendous cover corner and decent tackler.
Safety - Jackson. Out with broke leg but his tape speaks for itself,
 
The Navy fullback Chris High really stood out on a few plays. Ferocious blocker.
 
He has like 8-9 in a row ?

What do you think about Sprinkle?

Also if you could only pick from one team for 3 defensive picks which team and what players?

Michigan, Alabama, Florida, Washington, LSU or OSU

Fun question.

Talent wise, I think it has to be Alabama. You would end up with 2 of the top 3 defensive players in the draft, and you can choose between Williams or Humphrey for the third spot.

I would go Washington and Florida next
 
Duke Riley had a nice game.

Alex Anzalone flashed and showed why Florida was so high on him.

Jeremy Sprinkle 6'6/255. Not sure who's more underused, him or Howard? Anyway Sprinkle is a legit blocker in pass/run. Great frame and body that isnt completely maxed out.
The only question(s) I and everyone seems to have is route running and can he separate.

Vea still going ... Whole defense there is a nightmare.
 


Vita doing his thing.

Also Zach Whitman and Dane brugler are starting to talk about him. The floodgates are about to open up on him.

Once he tests out at the combine, all we will hear about is his sparq score.
 
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Vita doing his thing.

Also Zach Whitman and Dane brugler are starting to talk about him. The floodgates are about to open up on him.

Once he tests out at the combine, all we will hear about is his sparq score.


He's 1st round fringe imo and definitely a top 50 pick. Love watching actual football players and hes that.
 
LB Reuben Foster (Bama) and LB Tim Williams (Bama) are binkies 1 and 1A for me this year.
 


Vita doing his thing.

Also Zach Whitman and Dane brugler are starting to talk about him. The floodgates are about to open up on him.

Once he tests out at the combine, all we will hear about is his sparq score.


I watched him against cal. Washington is using him in rotation so he stays fresh, but he is a talent. Would love to get him at 32.
 
I've mentioned Jarron Jones before, but it's worth revisiting his game against Miami. He had 6 tackles for a loss, and was simply unblockable one on one. Big, strong frame. Just watch the first few plays. He single-handedly destroys Miami's first series.

 


He can get down the field in a hurry. Gets going quick for a big guy and shows nice game speed. Has a lot of experience blocking. From what i hear is a great kid.
 
Courtland Sutton 6'4/215, of SMU, deserves mention as well. 50/50 ball guy. Can run the fade. Raw but there's a lot to work with.
 
Also any thoughts on Jeremy Sprinkle, Anthony Walker? I have a feel for who they are just want to hear some different opinions.

Both are on my radar for the Patriots. 100% football players.
 


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