On to Buffalo

ausbacker said:

It's also a Rex Ryan coached team. It's not like the Patriots haven't seen this rodeo before.

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That's actually a bit comforting. Still, better personnel to deal with . . .

TommyD4207 said:

The referees are union and hate the NFL for what has been done to them over the years.

There's no such thing as a referee fix by the league, nor would they take edicts like that from the league, especially after they were left out to dry for the deflated footballs thing.

You're right though, the only thing Rex loves more than a Week 1 Super Bowl, is a Week 2 Super Bowl.

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Goodell personally elevated Boger and his crew to work the Ray Lewis Retirement Super Bowl against SF. Boger's crew was rated LAST in the NFL that season. Kaepernik threw a pass to the end zone to Crabtree that was CLEAR pass interference...


Game over, trophy presented, Ray Lewis IMMEDIATELY assumes a seat on an ESPN panel amidst accolades and platitudes.

and you believe Boger hates Goodell? Seriously??????????????

It will be a disaster of epic proportions! The Patriots will be dethroned in the AFC East! The mediots will call on Brady to retire!

Just like last year.

The Pats aren't the Colts. They give as good as they get. Have fun tackling Blount and Lewis. Rookie QBs do so well against the NE defense. 31-21 Pats.

ausbacker said:

It's also a Rex Ryan coached team. It's not like the Patriots haven't seen this rodeo before.

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While this is true, this is still probably the most talented team hes had to coach. Bills are a threat, at least in Buffalo.

Joker said:

Goodell personally elevated Boger and his crew to work the Ray Lewis Retirement Super Bowl against SF. Boger's crew was rated LAST in the NFL that season. Kaepernik threw a pass to the end zone to Crabtree that was CLEAR pass interference...

Game over, trophy presented, Ray Lewis IMMEDIATELY assumes a seat on an ESPN panel amidst accolades and platitudes.

and you believe Boger hates Goodell? Seriously??????????????

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I believe the referees have no loyalty to 345 Park Ave, and don't call games as such. They might be bad at their jobs, but they're not fixing games because Goodell says so.

If that's the case, what's your beef with last Thursday? I thought that game was called pretty well, all in all.

Also, keep Alex Smith and trade Kaepernick, and that pass is completed.

deters said:

While this is true, this is still probably the most talented team hes had to coach. Bills are a threat, at least in Buffalo.

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In their prime Revis and Cromartie aren't on the Bills Roster, last I checked.

Yeah, he does a good job with the front 7, but without a lockdown secondary, it's not quite the same.

The Bills have an above-average to good secondary. It's far from lockdown.

TommyD4207 said:

In their prime Revis and Cromartie aren't on the Bills Roster, last I checked.

Yeah, he does a good job with the front 7, but without a lockdown secondary, it's not quite the same.

The Bills have an above-average to good secondary. It's far from lockdown.

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Mccoy and Harvin are damn good players you can't ignore. All around this is the best squad hes probably ever had.

I'm saying BOGER is Goodell's personal ref catspaw....remember "pushed the pile...do over FG!!!"
http://www.patriots.com/news/2013/10/20/pool-report-referee-jerome-boger

called exactly ONCE in NFL HISTORY....result? oh wait, YOU know the result.

and then this...http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/29/s...bable-pick-as-referee-is-questioned.html?_r=0

That is because, while the San Francisco 49ers and the Baltimore Ravens clearly earned their way to the Super Bowl, questions have been raised about whether the top referee this season will be joining them.

The league is expected to announce this week that Jerome Boger, an N.F.L. referee for seven years, will lead the crew of officials here Sunday. Historically, that means Boger scored the highest among referees during the standard postgame evaluations — a notion that some observers and, privately, several other on-field officials find hard to comprehend.

“What’s happening right now is that the best officials are not working the best games,” said Jim Daopoulos, who worked 11 years as an on-field official and 12 years as a supervisor of officials before becoming an officiating analyst for NBC. Daopoulos added that he believed that the grading of some officials, including Boger, was altered because the league had a predetermined assignment in mind.

Of course, this Boger ground has been covered right here in the past

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...e-boger-will-referee-game-vs-bengals.1112450/

deters said:

Mccoy and Harvin are damn good players you can't ignore. All around this is the best squad hes probably ever had.

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McCoy's excellent. CJ Spiller was also very good, especially in tandem with Fred Jackson.

Percy Harvin is the single-most overrated player in the NFL.

nabwong said:

I feel like our game plan might be the same as the Super Bowl.

1. Keep Taylor in the pocket.
2. Contain McCoy.
3. Let their passing game make the mistakes.
4. Quick release on O
5. Screen game to take advantage of their over aggression.

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To add to this:
I like the match-ups of our CBs against Buffalo's WR better than I did against the Steelers. Watkins was just held catchless by a less talented set of CBs.. That being said, Buffalo does have 5 talented receivers in Watkins, McCoy, Harvin, Woods, and Clay. I just think we can match up with them.

I am not as worried about our D-line against the Bills run game, even if the Pats have to sit in their Nickle package most of the time again. Them running with McCoy actually plays into the Nickle strength, imho.

I wouldn't be surprised if Rex tries to run the Wildcat. He always seemed to try it once or twice when we played the Jets.

Our Interior O-line will definitely be tested against the combination of Dareus and Williams. Both OTs will have to worry about Hughes as he lines up on either end depending on their play.

Though Blount will be back, I expect Lewis to get the majority of the snaps, with them working over the tackles and outside as well as him pass blocking and lining up as a receiver.

I believe that the Buffalo secondary is very suspect and they will have trouble handling Gronkowski, Edelman and Amendola, not to mention Chandler. I think those four, with a good dose of Lewis and Dobson will make it very hard for them to slow the Patriots down.

deters said:

While this is true, this is still probably the most talented team hes had to coach. Bills are a threat, at least in Buffalo.

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I realize the Bills are a talented team with a helluva defense but they don't have Tom Brady or Bill Belichick in the critical positions.

A few a few initial comments:

1. Taylor did an excellent job today. He's a great example of the value of a guy sitting and waiting to play. This guy is NOT a rooke. He's been in the league for 5 years now. He might not have seen a lot of snaps in real games, but he's been around for a while.

2. Greg Roman - The announcers could say enough great things about Greg Roman. IIRC he was the OC with the Niners, so he has experience with a QB with Taylor's talents.

3. I didn';t see a lot of Read options or planned QB runs, though that doesn't mean we won't. Taylor IS a threat to run and will be difficult to sack on the rush. He was better than I thought he'd be, not that the Colt D is a juggernaut,

4. This is a group of offensive skil players who might be as good as the Pats see all year. I really like their rookie RB, and have always been a fan of McCoyy. So I doubt we;ll see much 4-2 - 5 this week.

5. Lots of penalties. Lots of sloppy game management.and wasted TO;s Lots of HC camera time. So in other words, I typical Rex Ryan game 6

6. Home field will be a huge advantage this week. The home crowd will just make the job of our suspect OL even more difficult..

7/ SOP. for a game like this used to be spreading them out and pick them apart. Literally pick them apart with picks. Just like in the Seattle game,, not many vertical routes.

8. This is ALWAYS a tough game even when they haven had a lot less talent at the skill positions. So look for a barn burner on the road.

9. Rex will want to run the ball/short pass us and keep time of possession in his favor. That's not a game day strategy, that;s a coaching philosophy

10. This very easily can become a loss and a big one, if we aren't carefull and take care of the ball. I don't think anyone will be shocked if we don't come out with a win

PatsWSB47 said:

Be safe. There are some real aholes at that stadium. Expect non-stop 'cheaters" attacks and things thrown at you.

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Cut 'em some slack, you'd be salty too if your team has sucked forever and all your free time is spent trying to shovel out your driveway.

deters said:

Don't underestimate the impact of Rex and the new additions to that team. While they still stink at QB, that's a talented roster their facing next week and a coach who will throw everything at the Patriots.

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Admittedly it is just one game but Taylor did not "stink" today. Even besides the efficiency, if you watched the game he does little, smart things that a quality QB will do. Like being smart enough to get into a tipped ball and knocking it to the ground so that it is not picked off. Other Bills QB's in years past give up a pick and it maybe becomes a pick 6. He knew when to the throw the ball away and didn't try to force it into tight windows in his first start. He also works well on broken plays, signaling his player to come back to him as he scrambled outside the pocket. Little stuff like that can change a game as you guys well know, having enjoyed stellar QB play for more than a decade.

The other Bills have been saying for weeks how smart and in command he is of the offense and we got a glimpse of that today. As a Bills fan, we got a glimmer of hope yesterday, but the big test is Brady and Belichick, who might not be inside their locker rooms but is damn sure inside every teams head collective heads....(cmon, thats funny right there)...

IcyPatriot said:

1: Their defense will be tough but they can be run upon ... Colts had that but kept going back to Luck.

2: Tyrod is going to be seeing one thing and witnessing the other ... Belichick so cruel on the noob QB's.

3. We can win ... game will be close ... Brady must be patient and he knows this.

4: Will be a good game for the short passes ... Brady excels in that area.

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I agree with this.
One major difference this week is that our best player will be back from his one game suspension and run stopper, Marcel Dareus. But you guys get Blount back, right? I think the Patriots will spread the Bills out in a hurry up and run Blount up the middle against the nickel and I am not sure we have the safeties to stop that guy.

Way some people are talking, sounds like the Pats shouldn't even show up and should just forfeit the game right now.

These Bills were just as good under Doug Marrone.

VrabelJr said:

These Bills were just as good under Doug Marrone.

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Not even close. False statement. I think what Doug Moron showed was that any average coach could win as much talent as they have on the roster. Hopefully Rex and Roman can make them real contenders.

JMC00 said:

Way some people are talking, sounds like the Pats shouldn't even show up and should just forfeit the game right now.

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Yup. Taylor is a combination of Brady/Montana/Unitas/Elway. The Pats season is OVER. No chance.

I mean, didn't the Pats just face RW in some kind of game in Feb? They got smoked by an inferior team than the Bills that day right?