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Had a thought here that i wanted to get out. So Garropolo is most likely now the backup for the Pats. However alot of people keep saying what was the point in getting him? So i put this to you.

What is the better scenario with the best potential ending:

1) Draft Garropolo as a pure Tom Brady insurance policy and effectively waste a second round pick because everyone knows he will not be playing quarterback for the patriots as long as Brady can throw the way he is. However what you have done is in the worst case scenario that Brady goes down for a season you don't have a scrub sitting behind him to lead you to nowhere and Jimmy G steps in and does a respectable job and maybe steadies the ship to the playoffs and at least give you a shot.

2) Don't draft Garropolo, use that pick on a probable starter somewhere else on the field and risk the chance of having a scrub behind Tom should he go down. However if he was to go down, the guy taking over is not that good and your record most likely takes a big hit leaving you with a high first rounder and a shot at getting your 'Andrew Luck' for the future (even though Belichick is just too damn good to let it turn into a Texans like affair).

So what is it? Have a good backup that could potentially flourish in the worst case scenario or not have one and lose for a while to get a top draft pick and your nailed on future guy at QB?
 
NaPolian got Andrew Luck . . . and got himself fired for his trouble.

Give me (1) any day of the week . . . and twice on Sundays. ;)
 
Had a thought here that i wanted to get out. So Garropolo is most likely now the backup for the Pats. However alot of people keep saying what was the point in getting him? So i put this to you.

What is the better scenario with the best potential ending:

1) Draft Garropolo as a pure Tom Brady insurance policy and effectively waste a second round pick because everyone knows he will not be playing quarterback for the patriots as long as Brady can throw the way he is. However what you have done is in the worst case scenario that Brady goes down for a season you don't have a scrub sitting behind him to lead you to nowhere and Jimmy G steps in and does a respectable job and maybe steadies the ship to the playoffs and at least give you a shot.

2) Don't draft Garropolo, use that pick on a probable starter somewhere else on the field and risk the chance of having a scrub behind Tom should he go down. However if he was to go down, the guy taking over is not that good and your record most likely takes a big hit leaving you with a high first rounder and a shot at getting your 'Andrew Luck' for the future (even though Belichick is just too damn good to let it turn into a Texans like affair).

So what is it? Have a good backup that could potentially flourish in the worst case scenario or not have one and lose for a while to get a top draft pick and your nailed on future guy at QB?
This concept of "tanking" for a top quarterback draft pick in the NFL is an anomaly involving the Indianapolis Colts and is unlikely to be seen again. Besides, BB directly addressed the idea recently, remarking how preposterous it is to trash an entire season from the loss of one player. So your idea was pretty much DOA.
 
Never tank. Instead of bashing the pick we should be happy that we are in a position to consider a backup qb a waste. Outside of Brady, the Mannings, and Farve, most teams need multiple qbs just to make it through a season. If Brady had not tore his acl, he may very well have eclipsed Favre's streak of consecutive starts one day.

And I like the idea of our backup not being a scrub.
 
A year of tanking is a wasted year of Belichick. For as much as some people complain about possibly wasting any remaining moment of Brady's career, they don't seem to care if the Pats are ever a Brady injury from wasting one of Bill's last years, which doesn't make sense to me.
 
Okay, you tank to get the #1 overall...... Last I checked:

1. The 1 overall isn't always a QB.
2. The top QB isn't always a great QB (Ryan Leaf anyone).
3. Even if you 'suck for luck' successfully, exactly how many SBs has that won the dolts so far. (1-2 in the playoffs ain't that impressive)
4. Who says you need all that to win it all anyway, gints 2x and rat birds were marginal w-l playoff teams who got hot & there are numerous game-manager QBs who won a SB.
5. Besides aiming low isn't a way to build a winning psychology in team and that can carry fwd as well.

All in all sucking is a sucker strategy!
 
I dunno was it really a tank, I don't follow it enoughbto know. I know there is no such thing as a garuntee. However the idea of a tank is interesting(but should be guarded against from ever happening and prospering). And if it was a tank I would say good job it worked. A bad year that without manning would have been a bad year anyways. What would fans prefer, 3 straight 10-6 seasons with a playoff butt kicking each year or 2 straight 6-10 seasons followed by a championship victory in year3. I feel like anything less than a championship is a waste. We lost. The season ended getting beat. I would rather 2 losing seasons then 2 beautiful shining Superbowl championship Lombardi trophies.

With all the problems of our interior OLine troubles while lacking playmakers what other qb in the NFL much less a backup qb could carry the offense to the playoffs much less AFC title game. I like GP but what says he takes this limited offense to the playoffs should TB get hurt. Because Bill liked him? Bill once liked O'Connell a lot. Not saying Gp won't be OK but who could really replace Brady to the point of carrying a sub par offense to a championship. We would be lucky to win a couple games without Brady.

I really hope GP is at least a guy who if you surround him with a very good OLine and legit playmakers can get the ball in their hands consistently. I know GP isn't a top5 pick expected to carry a bad team lacking playmaking talent to playoff contention. It looks like that's where teams go wrong. They look for that rare qb who makes everybody much better than they are. Those qbs are rare. Teams like Philly do better building a very good offense featuring a great OLine with multiple legit playmakers and find a qb that can get the ball to the playmakers consistently. The jags acknowledged a mistake in trying to draft the very rare saviour qb that can carry a offense and make players better than they are. Like so many teams have done before. Teams that put the pieces around yountrade have had more success. Like the vikings are doing now. The titans are adding talent to help Locker b4 officially giving up on him. BTW if the Titans struggle early they are a potential trading partner should we need a player and if they have interest in Mallet. Only question with mallet is should we use him as part of a trade because some teams are intrigued by him as a qb prospect. Other teams would rather have the #3 pick we could get for him along with our own #2 or #3 pick. Perhaps that's what's holding things up should we trade Mallet and acquire a WR or anything.

Got off subject but bottom line on that is the NFL teams have 22 Starters not 5. A franchise Qb,RB,passrusher or dominant Olineman can have a huge impact but not like a LeBron James could in the NBA.
 
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Bill Belichick builds this team with depth and competition at every single position, which is exactly why we took a backup QB in the 2nd round to begin with.
 
The Seahawks just won a Super Bowl with a 3rd round pick at the helm. Nothing is certain when considering the draft.
 
What if Brady is only down for a few games? This isn't the NBA where you lose one player and you're completely boned. As we saw with Bledsoe, anything is possible. Playoffs are too flukey to throw away a season.
 
The day that the Pats tank a season is the day I'll stop being a fan.

The problem with tanking is that it can be successful. Look at Indy. They got a future HOF QB for tanking a season and they got rid of one of their worst matchups in the playoffs (Pittsburgh) by tanking a game to the Jets in 2009. It worked perfectly until Peyton gagged in crunch time against the Saints in the SB.
 
no tank thanks
 
I dunno was it really a tank, I don't follow it enoughbto know. I know there is no such thing as a garuntee. However the idea of a tank is interesting(but should be guarded against from ever happening and prospering). And if it was a tank I would say good job it worked. A bad year that without manning would have been a bad year anyways. What would fans prefer, 3 straight 10-6 seasons with a playoff butt kicking each year or 2 straight 6-10 seasons followed by a championship victory in year3. I feel like anything less than a championship is a waste. We lost. The season ended getting beat. I would rather 2 losing seasons then 2 beautiful shining Superbowl championship Lombardi trophies.

With all the problems of our interior OLine troubles while lacking playmakers what other qb in the NFL much less a backup qb could carry the offense to the playoffs much less AFC title game. I like GP but what says he takes this limited offense to the playoffs should TB get hurt. Because Bill liked him? Bill once liked O'Connell a lot. Not saying Gp won't be OK but who could really replace Brady to the point of carrying a sub par offense to a championship. We would be lucky to win a couple games without Brady.

I really hope GP is at least a guy who if you surround him with a very good OLine and legit playmakers can get the ball in their hands consistently. I know GP isn't a top5 pick expected to carry a bad team lacking playmaking talent to playoff contention. It looks like that's where teams go wrong. They look for that rare qb who makes everybody much better than they are. Those qbs are rare. Teams like Philly do better building a very good offense featuring a great OLine with multiple legit playmakers and find a qb that can get the ball to the playmakers consistently. The jags acknowledged a mistake in trying to draft the very rare saviour qb that can carry a offense and make players better than they are. Like so many teams have done before. Teams that put the pieces around yountrade have had more success. Like the vikings are doing now. The titans are adding talent to help Locker b4 officially giving up on him. BTW if the Titans struggle early they are a potential trading partner should we need a player and if they have interest in Mallet. Only question with mallet is should we use him as part of a trade because some teams are intrigued by him as a qb prospect. Other teams would rather have the #3 pick we could get for him along with our own #2 or #3 pick. Perhaps that's what's holding things up should we trade Mallet and acquire a WR or anything.

Got off subject but bottom line on that is the NFL teams have 22 Starters not 5. A franchise Qb,RB,passrusher or dominant Olineman can have a huge impact but not like a LeBron James could in the NBA.

The sucky Matt Cassell says 'Hi'. He appreciates you calling him a SuperStar as only SuperStars could win with this collection of nobodies and never weres.
 
It depends on just how much body fat JAG needs to lose

No tanking, please.
 
The sucky Matt Cassell says 'Hi'. He appreciates you calling him a SuperStar as only SuperStars could win with this collection of nobodies and never weres.

Cassell had a prime welker and moss in his early 30s. Still missed the playoffs. What was Cassell without a team around him and a good system. What good is 9-10 wins and a playoff exit every year or even 13 wins and dominated in the playoffs. No difference IMHO.
 
...And I like the idea of our backup not being a scrub.

And if Belichick can get any compensation for Mallet, as he did with Cassel I call that pure GM saavy-ness (the insurance of having a quality backup QB for 4 years and getting back in trade what you paid for him).
 
The failure of Matt Cassel to make the playoffs was as much the defense as the offense. By season's end he was playing as well as any QB in the league.
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Cassell had a prime welker and moss in his early 30s. Still missed the playoffs. What was Cassell without a team around him and a good system. What good is 9-10 wins and a playoff exit every year or even 13 wins and dominated in the playoffs. No difference IMHO.
 
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