Anyone have a replay of the Gostowski miss?

Froob · Dec 16, 2013

Maybe it's just me, but I thought he made that kick. Looked like it slipped in over the goal post. Similar to the ravens missed game winner but, looked like it may have gone it. Dying to see a replay of this one.

Sicilian · Dec 16, 2013

When I saw it live, it seemed like a pretty clear miss. The slow-mo replay made it look VERY close, but since they only really showed one angle it was impossible to tell what point it crossed the line. I don't think it was as close as the Ravens game miss though.

chasa · Dec 16, 2013

impossible to tell really, They need to raise the uprights around 5-10 feet.

Sicilian · Dec 16, 2013

chasa said:
impossible to tell really, They need to raise the uprights around 5-10 feet.

I actually think they should just close off the top and put sensors covering the inside of the square. Ball passes through, light goes on, kick is good. Not only does this take the judgment out of it, but it forces kickers to have to aim their height as well, which consequently would encourage more going for it on 4th down.

This started as a joke but I'm actually kind of liking it now...

I am party · Dec 18, 2013

If we have the technology for the Hawk-Eye sensor/replay/triangulation system in tennis, there's no excuse for not having a sensor/replay/triangulation system for FG's.

jlu52 · Dec 18, 2013

I am party said:
If we have the technology for the Hawk-Eye sensor/replay/triangulation system in tennis, there's no excuse for not having a sensor/replay/triangulation system for FG's.

Refs and other officials have been consistently exercising bad judgement on their judgement calls, particularly this year, it seems. There have been a significant number of teams screwed this season by poor officiating, including our home team. Having a sensor system for FGs' and crossing the goal line makes great sense, and takes bad judgement calls out of the officials' hands.

Jackson 2 · Dec 18, 2013

jlu52 said:
Refs and other officials have been consistently exercising bad judgement on their judgement calls, particularly this year, it seems. There have been a significant number of teams screwed this season by poor officiating, including our home team. Having a sensor system for FGs' and crossing the goal line makes great sense, and takes bad judgement calls out of the officials' hands.

Any organization which still depends upon 2 sticks and a chain dozens of times in a game to determine something as critical as a first down is living in the Stone Age.

BlueThunder · Dec 18, 2013

Having sensors sure would shorten the length of time it takes to actually play a game with the replay/reviews by the refs under the hood being minimized.

Ball placement, TD's, FG's, Out of bounds,...lots of areas could be nailed by sensors. The ref's would just have to worry about personal fouls, holding, PI, etc.

Less *****in about the refs and reviewing plays and more time actually watching a football game. Of course, the league needs a longer game to justify ticket prices and to get more advertisers.

Something to be said about that hockey fight saying applies to football.

I was watching an advertisement on tv and a football game broke out.

upstater1 · Dec 18, 2013

BlueThunder said:
Having sensors sure would shorten the length of time it takes to actually play a game with the replay/reviews by the refs under the hood being minimized.

Ball placement, TD's, FG's, Out of bounds,...lots of areas could be nailed by sensors. The ref's would just have to worry about personal fouls, holding, PI, etc.

Less *****in about the refs and reviewing plays and more time actually watching a football game. Of course, the league needs a longer game to justify ticket prices and to get more advertisers.

Something to be said about that hockey fight saying applies to football.

I was watching an advertisement on tv and a football game broke out.

I don't understand the sensors argument for first down. It's not where the ball ends up but where the ball is when the player touches down. A judgement call. I can't see how sensors will help to make such judgements. I can see it on the sidelines however when a player is upright.

Sensors will help in the boundaries, IMO, but not in the field of play.

QuantumMechanic · Dec 18, 2013

upstater1 said:
I don't understand the sensors argument for first down. It's not where the ball ends up but where the ball is when the player touches down. A judgement call. I can't see how sensors will help to make such judgements.

Agreed. It won't help at all.

However, it would eliminate the need for measurements. The linesmen come in and spot the ball the same way they do now and then *bing* -- the sensors can instantly tell the referee if it's a first down or not without the need to stop the game, drag the chains out, etc., etc.

varjao · Dec 18, 2013

Even if he missed it was a 48 yard attempt, not easy at all.

Gost still has a lot of credit. And about the kickoff, it's not like our defense could stop Miami offense at that point of the game.

Sicilian · Dec 18, 2013

upstater1 said:
I don't understand the sensors argument for first down. It's not where the ball ends up but where the ball is when the player touches down. A judgement call. I can't see how sensors will help to make such judgements. I can see it on the sidelines however when a player is upright.

Sensors will help in the boundaries, IMO, but not in the field of play.

My only thought would be if you had some way to continually track the field position of the ball at any given time, then tie that timestamp into the replay equipment. On a ball spot challenge, all the ref has to do is manipulate the replay until the moment they see a player is down, and the computer will determine where the ball was at that precise moment.

Would help with plays where the camera angles make it hard to see the ball. Personally though, I don't think they mess those up enough to get that sophisticated.

mb6592 · Dec 18, 2013

varjao said:
Even if he missed it was a 48 yard attempt, not easy at all.

Tell that to Justin Tucker.

VJCPatriot · Dec 18, 2013

Sicilian said:
I actually think they should just close off the top and put sensors covering the inside of the square. Ball passes through, light goes on, kick is good. Not only does this take the judgment out of it, but it forces kickers to have to aim their height as well, which consequently would encourage more going for it on 4th down.

This started as a joke but I'm actually kind of liking it now...

This isn't a video game...

But I'm all in favor of sensors being installed on the prongs of the goalposts. I mean they have line sensors for tennis. Why not goalpost sensors for football?

varjao said:
Even if he missed it was a 48 yard attempt, not easy at all.

Gost still has a lot of credit. And about the kickoff, it's not like our defense could stop Miami offense at that point of the game.

I'm not throwing Gost under the bus but that kickoff mistake was huge. If he gets his usual touchback, they start at the 20. That extra 20 yards to go could be the difference between giving up a game-tying FG vs giving up a game-losing Touchdown.

Anyone have a replay of the Gostowski miss?

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