Thought experiment: If the Lions coughed up #1 for Cassel

Re: Detroits #1 pick in the draft?

Brain = slow

What impact will the underclassmen QBs have on Cassell's trade value?

I still see the Vikings as a prime target but maybe they look at Warner or Garcia instead.

Re: Detroits #1 pick in the draft?

cstjohn17 said:

Brain = slow

What impact will the underclassmen QBs have on Cassell's trade value?

I still see the Vikings as a prime target but maybe they look at Warner or Garcia instead.

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Impact? Not so much. Stafford could have used another year of development, which he now has to do on the payroll. Cassel is NFL ready. And before anyone jumps in with Flacco and Ryan, please recall they were both seniors who had that extra year Stafford needs (Jamarcus Russel anyone?).

DaBruinz said:

Umm.. High school accomplishments mean nothing. As for him being the "#1 rated OT and player coming out of college this season," that's not been the case on any of the sites I've been to.

NFLDraftscout.com, the site that the NFL uses for most of its player information, has Smith rated as the #3 OT and his stock is falling. He's still in their top 10 overall. But you have to take into consideration that a player's stock is constantly rising or falling and that things such as Bowl Games, The College All-Star Games (East/West Shrine Game, Senior Bowl), the Combine and the Pro Days, as well as the underclassmen declaring, will all affect his standing.

What you didn't do is explain WHY you felt Smith was the best? OTher than what some list you looked at said. I was hoping for something a bit more comprehensive..

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High School doesn't mean anything to who? you? ok, but it does mean something to scout's and NFL personnel. Yes, players stocks are always falling and rising, at this point it is ALL OPINION no matter what "site" you go on. ESPN has him ranked #1, which also means nothing. We all have access to google and yahoo, look him up if you want his pro's/con's. Like i said he was the #1 ranked high school senior of his class, he has been starting since a freshman, won offensive awards, he's durable, has good size, quickness and strength and Alabama had a great season. If i were you i wouldn't talk down to people and act like your word is fact, because when it comes to the draft nobody can guarentee anything, enjoy your websites.

By the way Bruins who is your #1 college prospect...and why? or should i just go to scout.com and read what they have to say?

Re: Detroits #1 pick in the draft?

cstjohn17 said:

Brain = slow

What impact will the underclassmen QBs have on Cassell's trade value?

I still see the Vikings as a prime target but maybe they look at Warner or Garcia instead.

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They will have a lot of impact, if more underclassmen come out, team's who know they are 2-3 years away from competing might prefer to keep their picks and just use one on a rookie QB. The odds of a top 10 drafting team trading for Cassel may decrease depending on the rookie QB who will be available to them. Detroit who could use the #20 pick to trade for Cassel, may rather take someone like Stafford or Bradford #1, or Mark Sanchez, or Josh Freeman #20. The more underclassmen the more options the less chance of making a trade.

Re: Detroits #1 pick in the draft?

I know the whole point of this thread is what if we had the #1 pick, but the way I see it, Detroit is not the top candidate for Matt. We do have a chance to trade him though but more likely to:

- Tampa Bay: definitely needs a young QB, Matt fits the bill

- San Fransisco: Shaun Hill and O'Sullivan? No way.

- Seattle: this may seem strange but Seattle is in transition-mode and Hasselbeck isn't young anymore

With the #1 pick I'd go with Andre Smith. With a Seattle pick I would go for Aaron Curry. With the San Fran or TB pick I would go maybe with Taylor Mays.

I agree, i don't think he goes to Detroit. However they are one of the better possibilities. I think the three best possibilities are 1.Minnesota 2.Chicago 3.Tampa Bay..The reason is because they all have solid team's and are a good QB away from contending. Detroit is so far away i think they learned from Miami and will 1st build a team before plugging in a QB. There are no Matt Ryan's in this draft, there are 2 very talented top 10 picks, but neither are as polished, poised, or NFL ready as Ryan was.

Lions GM Here

I trade down from the 1 overall pick to 3 or to whoever falls in love with Stafford.

I pick up next years 1 from the trade partner as well as their 3rd round pick this year.

Chicago, Minn, Tampa, . It does not matter as long as

the Lions don't overpay some young player.

I take Left Tackle or a top Linbacker with my new 1st round pick. Say James Laurenitis
Someone who can tackle AP if he gets by my Tackle below.

I have 1 more I think #22 and I trade it and my low #1 next year for Cassell and any other
player the pats will toss in. Seriously almost anyone. Welsley Britt would be ideal.

II back up the money truck and Pay Albert Haynesworth the 30 mil I was going to give to a 22 year old. Instant D-Line


I offer up my # 33pick this year for Assumuga CB from Oakland and add a pick if needed.

Detroit need young veterans not young players. They could infuse 3-4 potential pro bowl players with the moves above.


That would be a new team. The best corner in the division. The best D lineman in the division. The best QB in the division potentially. The Lions have the Best WR.
Debth would be the biggest need. They could go the rest of the draft taking best available player and next years draft would be set up to do so as well. That is what that team has not been able to do. They have been taking players hoping they could take a short cut to beating balanced teams with all offense.

Maybe one more free agent season and draft away from winning the Division.

jdk19 said:

Lions GM Here

I trade down from the 1 overall pick to 3 or to whoever falls in love with Stafford.

I pick up next years 1 from the trade partner as well as their 3rd round pick this year.

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You're already off base. Who's going to trade a #1 and #3 to climb two spots to take anyone, let alone a quarterback who nobody seems to think is a sure-fire NFL starter? Nobody.

This was the Eli Manning trade, no? Stafford's college performance and bloodlines are nowhere near Eli's, and even if they were, I think NFL GMs have caught on that giving up so much for the right to be saddled with the contract a #1 overall gets is a losing proposition.

Re: Detroits #1 pick in the draft?

I can understand your wanting to speculate on the what if(s), but I don't think it makes much sense for the Pats to give up anything beyond Cassel.

The picks are too valuable. What is more likely is they would get the Lions 2nd pick. But there are a lot of other teams that may have interest in Cassel.

Such as: the Texans, Panthers, 49ers, Bears, Bucs, Rams, Chiefs, Vikings, Jets, and, with two 1st round picks, even the Eagles become a real possibility.

But what I don't get is why everybody insists it will be a #1. It may be a combination of picks equal to that, such as the Lions #2 + #3, for example.