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    Detroits #1 pick in the draft?

    sorry if i havent responded to some of you guys posts, but i cant post here without my posts being moderated, so my responses may not show up.

    Anyways i was thinking if we had the #1 pick in the draft who would we take?

    If we franchise Cassel we could then trade him to Detroit along with our 1st round pick #24 for Detroits #1 pick. We may have to add in a 2nd or 3rd but the foundation of the deal would be Cassel plus our #24 pick. Detroit may not want to pick a QB #1, they might not want to have to pay #1 pick money to anyone, they might like the idea of trading down and picking up another 1st and a proven QB in Cassel, but who knows its just an idea. We could also dangle Cassel as trade up bait plus our 1st rounder to move up to #10 pick San Francisco, that would probably be more ideal, but its fun to think of us having the #1 pick in the draft!

    If we had the #1 id go with Maualuga or one of the big OT's.
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    I'm not saying it's going to happen--I'm almost certain it won't--but I know at least one poster on this board has been lusting after it. :)

    So, let's say for the sake of argument the unthinkable happens, and the Pats do end up with the #1 overall pick. If you couldn't find a trade partner, who would you take?
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    i dont know why people think it would be unthinkable to get a first rounder for him...i think that a team would be nuts not to trade their first rounder for him. i know if i were a team without a good QB, i would gladly give up a first rounder for a guy that is much more likely to produce and sooner, than a first round draft choice
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    oh. and i have no idea who they would take. doesnt really matter though. i would prefer a S or CB but it doesnt matter, as long as the player is good
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    I'm not arguing that they won't get a first-rounder, I'm arguing that they wouldn't get (or even want) the first pick in the Draft.
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    Before this thread gets too far off track, let's clarify that the OP isn't talking about "a first rounder" but rather the #1 overall pick.
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    i didnt say you thought that. i agree with you that some people dont think that. i think they are wrong
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    OHHHHH. the first overall
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    not a skill position
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    An OT that could take over for Kaczur and eventually for Light would be ideal.
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    The best player... on the PLANET! No idea who that is though. I wouldn't mind trading down to #10 in that scenario. #10 has done is pretty well recently.
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    Normally, I don't respond to these type of topics :rolleyes:, but if it's for fun, I'll play. :)

    Let's see, we have the #1 overall, and can't give a dumpster discount to any trading partner, so we're forced to pick one player. Looking at the Pats roster, needs, and value of each draft prospect (from a BB perspective), I'd say the top two players are:

    Aaron Curry - most here want an ILB to pair with Mayo. So why not take the top-ranked LB. Has any team ever had back-to-back defensive rookie of the year winners?

    Michael Crabtree - most here also want an upgrade from Gaffney. If anyone has seen Crabtree play, they'd realize this is not a luxury pick just because we have Welker and Moss. We would be strengthening our strength by adding a strong RZ/EZ target. Who needs a pass receiving TE with this trio?

    The only other position I'd consider would be OT -- of which there are several to choose from. Now if there's one OT head and shoulders above Curry and Crabtree -- I'd consider him. And assuming the Pats would still be selecting at #24, numerous scenarios remain possible, including trading up. :singing:

    Thanks, I now feel dirty...:ugh:
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    with Detrot, St. Louis, Kansas City, Seattle, San Fran, Washington, Chicago, Tampa and Minnesota all potential bidders, we could end up with a lot better compensation that most would anticipate
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    The sad thing, though, is almost every one of those teams could talk themselves out of it. . . .
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    If teams believe in Michael Oher, there definitely could be bidders -- look at the scramble for OTs in the first round last year.

    The #1 overall would seriously scare me. I would want out of that spot in the worst way.
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    Theres always the possibility of trading out of the #1 spot for an awesome proven vet.
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    Since this is all rediculous... Favre for a 1st rounder in a hearbeat and throw in ben-gay and some depends. 1st over all pick for Cassel, no way! Cassel is now proven and has everything ahead of him.
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    I think most teams would want to stay out of the top 10. You get a great player 10-20 at a fraction of the cost. Then of course there is Mike Ditka.
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    Re: Detroits #1 pick in the draft?

    For the first pick in the 2009 draft the Lions will go for a WR, book it.
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    Re: Detroits #1 pick in the draft?


    well, if u are getting moderated, then the mod needs to know to eitehr merge this in the other exact same thread (i believe currently conviniently located right underneath this one) or not approve it...

    or u may want to do some lookign urself...

    but to answer ur question, seymour's recplacement, if he exists, or wilforks recplacement...otherwise LT

    stay in teh lines w/ that kind of pick
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    Hmmm. Interesting question. I guess if I had to pick a player #1, I'd probably take Taylor Mays. He and Merriweather together would be a dream.
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    I've got to ask: you do know that #1 overall is looking at approx $32 million as a signing bonus, plus another $10-12 million/year for 5-6 years? I'm not trying to make fun of you, I just want to ensure you understood the price tag for that #1 overall Safety.
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    He's just participating in a silly, very unrealistic thread. We all know the cost of drafting the #1 overall. Why don't you give it a try? Which player would you pick #1 if you couldn't trade down?
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    Offensive Tackle is way too DEEP a Position this year to think such a thought. With the incredible dept at the position you just wouldn't make that move. I wouldn't want the #1 overall from Detriot to take a Offensive Tackle. I would prefer their selection from Dallas and i think BB would too. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Detriot would be interested in Cassel.
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