Offensive play calling from McDaniels cost us the win!!!

[pheenix11]

I'll say it, the OL played terrible last night but Brady wasn't so hot either. There were a few plays where he overthrew people even when he had time. His accuracy on the long balls was horrible and he held the ball too long looking for deep passes.

 

[Fencer]

Yeah, where was the deep ball for the first three quarters? Brady had plenty of time and the o-line did a pretty good job keeping Tuck, Umineyoria, and Strahan were kept at bay all game. It was perfect game conditions for Brady to sail it deep. McDaniels foolishly rather go with the short game which got Brady sacked or hit on almost every play in the first half.:bricks:

You're saying Brady had enough time to throw deep but not short??

 

[Fencer]

Rushers ALWAYS get into the backfield from the outside -- they can loop around if nothing else.

It was the rushers coming up the middle that made the difference.

 

[Rocky]

I'll say it, the OL played terrible last night but Brady wasn't so hot either. There were a few plays where he overthrew people even when he had time. His accuracy on the long balls was horrible and he held the ball too long looking for deep passes.

I agree. But give him props for still driving the team down the field and putting them in a position to win if the defense could have stopped the Giants. He clearly did not have great mobility in the pocket and did miss open receivers.

 

[pheenix11]

The defense will be looked at as losing the game because they gave up the game winning drive but in reality, 17 points against the Giants is not bad, but 14 points for the highest scoring offense of all time is pathetic.

Yeah Asante Samuel should have had that INT and they should have wrapped up Manning but it never should have come to that.

 

[festy1986]

Mcdaniels did call a horrible game, first call out its a trick play? a double fake handoff?

They were looking to put on a show, and it cost them.

They at one point, ran the ball 6 straight times.

No hurry up or short passes.

The pats in the end, were a botched INT from Asante or a sack on Manning from winning the game.

Having Colvin in this game would of been HUGE.

 

[Cityofchampions33]

I think this loss is big time on McDaniels. I mean talk about not adjusting whatsoever. It seemed pretty obvious going into halftime that the G-men had established they can get to Brady 50% of the time. Firstly, where in the **** was the shotgun, secondly, why didn't we switch to those quick routes we used on the last drive earlier? Nonetheless, the OLine is where our problems started and ultimately killed the game. If you had said to me we would have only let up 10 points to the Giants with 2:30 left on the clock, I would guess win 10 times out of ten.

 

[RayClay]

This backs up my point. Look at these sets.

3 WR/1 TE/1 RB -- 33 of 70
2 WR/2 TE/1 RB -- 20 of 70
4 WR/1 RB -- 9 of 70
1 WR/2 TE/1 FB/1 RB -- 5 of 70
3 TE/1 FB/1 RB -- 2 of 70
1 WR/3 TE/1 RB -- 1 of 70

Where are the adjustments??? How can you not try what has been succesful in the past. Not only that but why in the hell when you were on the 8-9 yard line going for a td with a first down do you not try and run it a few times and kill the clock a little or atleast make the Giants burn a few timeouts?

I agree, it would have beat on their defense, which was already treating guys for cramps and opened up some things later. Plus OLinemen love to run block where the can beat on people instead of taking it.

What i don't understand is why people think Belichick would allow McDaniel to lose the Superbowl if he had better plays/personnel groupings in mind.

He's calling BB's game plan, face it.

 

[captain stone]

McDaniels isn't even on the top ten list of things that went wrong last night. Maybe the overall game plan was flawed, only dressing 2 TE, because maybe we underestimated the Giants pass rush and front 4 or overestimated our pro bowl studded Oline's actual capacity to handle them. But those wideranging decisions on overall approach aren't made by the coordinators. Those are the perview of the hoodie.

Then what is the Top 10?

Skippy's (or BB's, if you prefer) play-calling is most definitely in mine.

Without watching the tape (I left it in Charlottesville VA), the one play that illustrates the ineptitude of the OC/HC was in the 3rd quarter, 7:23 remaining, 3rd and 7 from the NJG 25. Instead of a draw play from the shotgun, TB is sacked during a 7-step drop. Now they are (apparently) out of FG range. If they thought that they were in 4-down territory, then why didn't they run a draw on 3rd down to gain some positive yardage?

Also, where were the flea-flickers, HB options and other formations to counter-act the jints' pash-rush? It was obvious by halftime that 7-step drops with 5/6-man protections weren't cutting the mustard.

Inexplicably, inexcusably, all-around horrible; in both planning and execution. The HC/OC simply did not put their players in the best positions to succeed, esp. given their knowledge of the jints' DL proclivity to compete in pash-rush mode full-time.

 

[richpats]

Brady even got pissed when the Pats lost the coin flip at the start--not exactly a professional response to a 50/50 proposition.

The last time I saw Brady act this way was during the Denver playoff game, and his play reflected that - missed throws, "imagined" pressure, etc.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

The last time I saw Brady act this way was during the Denver playoff game, and his play reflected that - missed throws, "imagined" pressure, etc.

He wasn't imagining this pressure you nitwit. We're lucky he was still able to get upright to throw at all...

 

[dhamz]

Also, where were the flea-flickers, HB options and other formations to counter-act the jints' pash-rush? It was obvious by halftime that 7-step drops with 5/6-man protections weren't cutting the mustard.

Let me get this right - we can't protect enough to throw short passes and you want to go with flea flickers? You know it is the slowest developing pass play going, right?

 

[dhamz]

Mcdaniels did call a horrible game, first call out its a trick play? a double fake handoff?

The first play was a screen pass. And one that we have run a lot over the years. It would have gone for a huge gain but as with every other play that might have been there - the Giants pass rush blew it up.

 

[richpats]

He wasn't imagining this pressure you nitwit. We're lucky he was still able to get upright to throw at all...

I'm not talking about "imagined" pressure every single play. There were plays where he rushed a throw and didn't need to. Way to be mature on the response, I see you've added name-calling to your posting prowess.

 

[Rob0729]

You're saying Brady had enough time to throw deep but not short??

Sarcasm! Look it up.

 

[Rob0729]

Mcdaniels did call a horrible game, first call out its a trick play? a double fake handoff?

Exactly why is a trick play right off the bat a bad thing? If it worked, it might have set the tone for the whole game and kept the Giants defense offguard all game. In hindsight it was a bad call knowing what the o-line was going to play like, but I liked that McDaniels came into the game wanting to be creative and agressive. If the o-line did their job that could have been a huge game even a TD because the deep coverage wasn't great all game for the Giants and fake double reverse would have probably caused the safeties to bit on the run leaving no one to roll coverage on Moss and Stallworth. That play looked to be a clear case of execution problems over play calling problems.

 

[captain stone]

Let me get this right - we can't protect enough to throw short passes and you want to go with flea flickers? You know it is the slowest developing pass play going, right?

I understand that; but with the DL temporarily stacked at the LOS, TB might have had time to find someone open on a post, seam or slant.

My point is that the offense needed to do something to disrupt the jints' muscle-memory pass-rush. The DL needed to be set on its heels and made to think that what it was seeing might not be what was really happening. Doubt needed to be placed in its collective mindset. Unfortunately, it appeared that the jints usually had no doubt whatsoever about what was happening. Credit their DC, who should be offered the Redskins' HC job if Snyder has been paying any attention at all. But also blame BB, Skippy and the OL; and, to a lesser extent, TB and Dante.