Matt Ryan??

[Nordy]

Get off the drugs man.


Or maybe get on them.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Matt Ryan is worth no better than a 3rd or 4th round pick IMO. He doesn't have all the absolute NFL skills needed to succeed. Doesn't mean he won't have them ... perhaps a desperate team will take him in the 1st. If I were Belichick I would grab him no higher than in the 4th and he won't be there by then.

 

[jbb9s]

Dude - have you been going to that McDonalds in Haverhill where the kid was selling pot out of the drive thru? Good idea on this one...for the 2013 draft.

 

[Truck]

I'd be all for drafting someone projected to become an adequate starter (in the 2nd or 3rd round).

But a top 5 pick (or any first round pick) is only used for a player you expect to start on your team. You don't use it for a guy who is going to be on the bench for 7 years. And even if you had a great college QB, if he's on the bench for 7 years, he's not going to be great in the pros.

As was mentioned in another thread..We don't need a young, out of college backup. We need a veteran, not good to start every week, but can be a good spot starter QB.

 

[NE_PATS_FAN_54]

i dont think Ryan will go that high anymore, B/c BC isnt ranked that high anymore...

but he will be looked at very hard, if we can get him in the 3rd round, go for it....if we can get him in the second, debate it....


but that all depends on what they think cassell can do....

dead wrong buddy. ryan is the only reason why they r still in the mix for the acc title. how good ur team is doesnt matter when it comes to the draft. ryan is still going top 20 guarenteed.

 

[NE_PATS_FAN_54]

He didn't look that great in Miami but I haven't seen enough of Cassel to think that we need an emergency replacement in the draft. I'd like to see BB sit Brady for most of the Giants game and let Cassel show his stuff.

i'd like to see matt gutierrez get some reps too.

 

[Nordy]

dead wrong buddy. ryan is the only reason why they r still in the mix for the acc title. how good ur team is doesnt matter when it comes to the draft. ryan is still going top 20 guarenteed.

The ACC sucks. Not too hard to be in the mix.

 

[mgteich]

Ryan is not a first rounder, not close. I would take Tebow in the the 3rd long before Ryan.

The patriots are most unlikely to use a 1st on a QB, certainly not a top 10 pick.

 

[MrClutch]

His name seems like a name that a first round bust would have.

 

[Metaphors]

The ACC sucks. Not too hard to be in the mix.

Aside from Ryan, BC wouldn't even be a bowl team...even in the ACC. Ryan needs to go to a team where he can sit a year, learn the speed of the Pro game and put on some weight. Green Bay maybe?

The guy is 6'5", strong arm, smart, good pocket awareness and has shown solid leadership skills. What else do you want?

 

[Eugene Chung]

Ryan is not a first rounder, not close. I would take Tebow in the the 3rd long before Ryan.

The patriots are most unlikely to use a 1st on a QB, certainly not a top 10 pick.

Tell that to ESPN. Scouts, Inc. has Ryan as the 6th best prospect in all of college football. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/index

As for Tebow, it's a little easier throwing to Percy Harvin and Andre Caldwell than it is throwing to Brandon Robinson and Kevin Challenger.

I would love to see the Pats take Chris Long, Howie's kid, and move him to the Jumbo like McGinest.

 

[mgteich]

We'll see. I've seen Ryan play and he does seem to resemble another Ryan.

Tell that to ESPN. Scouts, Inc. has Ryan as the 6th best prospect in all of college football. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/index

As for Tebow, it's a little easier throwing to Percy Harvin and Andre Caldwell than it is throwing to Brandon Robinson and Kevin Challenger.

I would love to see the Pats take Chris Long, Howie's kid, and move him to the Jumbo like McGinest.

 

[Lifer]

ok, ok. I shouldnt have said the name Matt Ryan. My bad.

the IDEA is regarding dealing with the backup QB issue. I dont feel its a good idea to have this historically great team one hit away from being a 10-6 at best team.

We need a solid NFL backup. If not the high draft pick, what are the best ways to do it?

 

[pwes]

You are jumping too far ahead. Tom may be here for another 6-8 years. Why are you worried about a back-up now? Wait until Tom only has 2-3 years left before you start talking about drafting another QB.

 

[cstjohn17]

In a perverse way we should be cheering for Matt Ryan.

If he finishes strong, has good workouts, etc. then maybe we can get some team to overpay so we can trade out of the #2 spot in the draft.

Go Matty Go!

 

[mcbee]

Whats the one position where the Patriots empire is most vunerable?

I submit that everything comes crashing down, winning Super Bowls-wise, if Tom Brady goes down. What sustained the great 49er dynasty, and turned it from a 10 year reign, to a 18 year reign, was having Steve Young to replace Joe Montana.

If the Patriots get a very high pick from the 49ers fall this year, I think they should use it to draft the very best QB available. Im looking long term here, they must find Tom Brady's replacement now, as time does march on.

Any other injury or loss they can recover from, but not a Brady injury. I'd love to see a guy like Matt Ryan being groomed to take over. Im not convinced if Brady gets hurt tonight that a Matt Cassell can take them anywhere. So they need to think big with this potential high pick.

Think Montana and Young. How many draft picks is 8 years of a continued dynasty worth?

Matt Ryan isn't very good.

A rookie QB will be signed for 5 years or so and then be up for a re-signing when his deal is up. Brady might play for 6 or 7 years ...or 8...is this guy going to sit on the bench for 7 years?

 

[mcbee]

Aside from Ryan, BC wouldn't even be a bowl team...even in the ACC. Ryan needs to go to a team where he can sit a year, learn the speed of the Pro game and put on some weight. Green Bay maybe?

The guy is 6'5", strong arm, smart, good pocket awareness and has shown solid leadership skills. What else do you want?

Lots of guys are like that. Doesn't make them a 'sure thing', far from it. And it doesn't make them even worth a 1st, no matter what anyone says.

I've seen him play numerous times...he overthrows open receivers all the time. I don't think he's anything special...and you'd have to pay him millions to sit on the bench if he's drafting in the top part of round 1....plus you'd miss out on a good player who could actually help the team.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

Whats the one position where the Patriots empire is most vunerable?

I submit that everything comes crashing down, winning Super Bowls-wise, if Tom Brady goes down. What sustained the great 49er dynasty, and turned it from a 10 year reign, to a 18 year reign, was having Steve Young to replace Joe Montana.

If the Patriots get a very high pick from the 49ers fall this year, I think they should use it to draft the very best QB available. Im looking long term here, they must find Tom Brady's replacement now, as time does march on.

Any other injury or loss they can recover from, but not a Brady injury. I'd love to see a guy like Matt Ryan being groomed to take over. Im not convinced if Brady gets hurt tonight that a Matt Cassell can take them anywhere. So they need to think big with this potential high pick.

Think Montana and Young. How many draft picks is 8 years of a continued dynasty worth?

Are you out of your mind????????????????????????????

 

[mcbee]

ok, ok. I shouldnt have said the name Matt Ryan. My bad.

the IDEA is regarding dealing with the backup QB issue. I dont feel its a good idea to have this historically great team one hit away from being a 10-6 at best team.

We need a solid NFL backup. If not the high draft pick, what are the best ways to do it?

Usually journeymen at the end of their careers are good enough to fill in for a game or two or three.

Developing a young QB...very difficult, couuld take a couple years...and top picks are not necessarily that good...who would you rather have Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, Derek Andersen, Kyle Boller, the new NY jets QB? The worst of those guys IMO were drafted as top top picks. Derek Andersen was in the 6th...it's a crapshoot.

 

[Metaphors]

Lots of guys are like that. Doesn't make them a 'sure thing', far from it. And it doesn't make them even worth a 1st, no matter what anyone says.

I've seen him play numerous times...he overthrows open receivers all the time. I don't think he's anything special...and you'd have to pay him millions to sit on the bench if he's drafting in the top part of round 1....plus you'd miss out on a good player who could actually help the team.

I think the Pats drafting Ryan in the 1st round would be insane...but that doesn't mean that he shouldn't be drafted in the 1st round. He is a prototype pro passer.

The guy is 6'5", strong arm, smart, good pocket awareness and has shown solid leadership skills. What else do you want?

Can you name another QB that has all that and won't be drafted in the 1st round? I haven't looked at the team needs and see which teams are likely looking for a QB as a top need, but if there are 2 or 3 teams looking, Ryan won't make it to the 2nd round.