Not sure what this is...

[TyronePoole]

This what is really bugging people. It has nothing to do with the video, its this puritanical thinking and judgments about an older widower dating a young woman. Here is the thing about that: Its his private life and its none of your business.

"puritanical thinking and judgements" is thinking that someone can't take a picture with someone else because they are a porn star.

It has zero to do with puritanical thinking that I find this move sleezy not because it's an older widower with a younger chick (I don't even believe in marriage tbh nor could I care less about his relationships) but because it makes Robert Kraft, in my opinion, look like a shameless promoter who pontificates on morals and "family values" in public, basically using his dead wife like a politician would as some kind of creepy campaign slogan, and then turns around and makes a joke out of it.

There may be no better owner in sports, but I don't have to blindly support everything he does.

 

[Koma]

Say hello to the next owner of the Patriots everyone.

Now, that would be something. At a minimum, every Patriots-centric message board would explode.

But, hey, it worked in "On Any Given Sunday," didn't it? Sorta. I mean Belichick would leave to coach an expansion team, but we'd still have the Pantheon Cup.

 

[BradyManny]

This what is really bugging people. It has nothing to do with the video, its this puritanical thinking and judgments about an older widower dating a young woman. Here is the thing about that: Its his private life and its none of your business.

There's nothing puritanical about being a little puzzled about by a guy who clearly had the level of love for his wife that Kraft did turning around and dating someone half his age after losing her.

But hey, I don't know what Kraft is going through losing his loved one like that, so I guess I'm not in a position to judge. I could just never imagine myself doing that and it doesn't sit right with me - and I don't consider myself puritanical.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

This what is really bugging people. It has nothing to do with the video, its this puritanical thinking and judgments about an older widower dating a young woman. Here is the thing about that: Its his private life and its none of your business.

Only it's not being kept private and he's not a private party any more than Vilma is, he's a billionaire philanthropist and NFL busines owner who preaches about values and maintaining an above reproach image lest his brand or name be sullied... I don't care if he dates her, although I'd hoped he could do better - as Myra likely did. I just wish he could avoid the compulsion to make an ass out of himself in the process. Elderly owners with poor judgment in their later years make me uncomfortable, even more so than the specter of Jonathan at the helm...

 

[BSR]

"puritanical thinking and judgements" is thinking that someone can't take a picture with someone else because they are a porn star.

It has zero to do with puritanical thinking that I find this move sleezy not because it's an older widower with a younger chick (I don't even believe in marriage tbh nor could I care less about his relationships) but because it makes Robert Kraft, in my opinion, look like a shameless promoter who pontificates on morals and "family values" in public, basically using his dead wife like a politician would as some kind of creepy campaign slogan, and then turns around and makes a joke out of it.

There may be no better owner in sports, but I don't have to blindly support everything he does.

I've never said there was anything wrong with taking a picture with a porn star. Mo said that this is the same as Gronk. It isn't. Gronk was using a porn star to promote his brand as Patriots. That is presumably not happening here. Kraft didn't tweet this out. He didn't post it on his website. It presumably leaked out and was not intended to make a joke out of it. None of us know what is going on with him right now, what his relationship is with this woman, and how he really feels about Myra.

And I don't think there is any reason to support Kraft in this. I just don't think its fair to judge him either.

 

[Deus Irae]

I've never said there was anything wrong with taking a picture with a porn star. Mo said that this is the same as Gronk. It isn't. Gronk was using a porn star to promote his brand as Patriots. That is presumably not happening here. Kraft didn't tweet this out. He didn't post it on his website. It presumably leaked out and was not intended to make a joke out of it. None of us know what is going on with him right now, what his relationship is with this woman, and how he really feels about Myra.

And I don't think there is any reason to support Kraft in this. I just don't think its fair to judge him either.

The picture was posted by the Porn star, not by Gronk.

 

[BSR]

Only it's not being kept private and he's not a private party any more than Vilma is, he's a billionaire philanthropist and NFL busines owner who preaches about values and maintaining an above reproach image lest his brand or name be sullied... I don't care if he dates her, although I'd hoped he could do better - as Myra likely did. I just wish he could avoid the compulsion to make an ass out of himself in the process. Elderly owners with poor judgment in their later years make me uncomfortable, even more so than the specter of Jonathan at the helm...

I must have missed his tweet about his new relationship or the upcoming reality TV special feature him and his new girlfriend. Otherwise, yes, he is trying to keep it private. Him showing himself publicly with someone does not give every John Q. Public a platform from which to judge.

Listen to yourself..."I'd hoped he could do better - as Myra likely did". You know nothing about her, you know nothing about him, you know nothing about their relationship and you certainly know nothing about how Myra likely feels about it from the great beyond and yet you worry about HIM making an ass out of himself?

 

[Deus Irae]

I must have missed his tweet about his new relationship or the upcoming reality TV special feature him and his new girlfriend. Otherwise, yes, he is trying to keep it private. Him showing himself publicly with someone does not give every John Q. Public a platform from which to judge.

Listen to yourself..."I'd hoped he could do better - as Myra likely did". You know nothing about her, you know nothing about him, you know nothing about their relationship and you certainly know nothing about how Myra likely feels about it from the great beyond and yet you worry about HIM making an ass out of himself?

He's taking the woman to public locations where he knows he's likely to be spotted and pointed out (game 6 Heat/Celtics). How is that trying to keep it private?

 

[BSR]

The picture was posted by the Porn star, not by Gronk.

"He wanted me to get him more Twitter followers," said Jones in an appearance on Toucher and Rich on 98.5 The Sports Hub on Monday morning.

Read more at: BiBi Jones Reveals Rob Gronkowski Jealous of Her Twitter Following, Though 'Nothing Happened' Between the Two - New England Patriots - NESN.com

 

[Deus Irae]

"He wanted me to get him more Twitter followers," said Jones in an appearance on Toucher and Rich on 98.5 The Sports Hub on Monday morning.

Read more at: BiBi Jones Reveals Rob Gronkowski Jealous of Her Twitter Following, Though 'Nothing Happened' Between the Two - New England Patriots - NESN.com

1.) I was responding to your post "Kraft didn't tweet this out. He didn't post it on his website.", I was correct, and you were being foolish.

2.) You're taking the word of an attention whoring porn star, and you're being foolish.

3.) Gronk was chastised for doing what he did with the brand involved. Here, the brand is apparently involved. You're being foolish.

 

[BSR]

He's taking the woman to public locations where he knows he's likely to be spotted and pointed out (game 6 Heat/Celtics). How is that trying to keep it private?

Again, did I miss a tweet, blog or interview where he discusses his relationship? He hasn't put anything out there has he? In that case, he is trying to keep it private. The details are between the two of them. It shouldn't be that Kraft has to meet secretly and hide a relationship just to keep people from minding their own business.

 

[Deus Irae]

Again, did I miss a tweet, blog or interview where he discusses his relationship? He hasn't put anything out there has he? In that case, he is trying to keep it private. The details are between the two of them. It shouldn't be that Kraft has to meet secretly and hide a relationship just to keep people from minding their own business.

When the owner of a billion dollar team is taking a woman out to a venue as public as a playoff game between the Celtics and Heat, he's not trying to keep anything private. You know this.

 

[signbabybrady]

Wow there is a lot of Crap being thrown around and its all ridiculous. Absolutely nothing worng with anything going on here.

First as has been pointed out this was an audition video for a PG-13 movie. Something that I am sure was sent to the producers or directors or whoever is responsible for chosing the actors for the roles and never meant for public consumption not that there is anything wrong with it if it were for the public.

Now to most peoples real concern a man dating "too soon" after the passing of his wife and "too young".

Everyone deals with grief differently and this changes nothing. Had he announced an engagement or ran off and eloped maybe it would be a little different. For all any of us know he has been crying himself to sleep for a year and decided to get back on the horse. And just because he has started dating doesnt mean he cant still be crying himself to sleep. I am sure everyone has someone in their lives who lost their significant other and depending on how long it has been some of you have probably even talked to them about getting back out there and some of these people are the sort that may never date again and I am sure some of you have said that it is a shame and that they should not be alone for the rest of their lives. Sure 6 months seems quick but lets not forget this was a battle with cancer and he had a lot of time to prepare prior to her passing which may or may not speed the grieving. For all we know she may have insisted he get back out there.

Would anyone care about it only being 6 months if this lady was in her 50's or older?

Now to the age. I find this to be a little creepy no matter who it is but it is still two adults dating and I am sure each are aware of the motives behind dating with such an age descrepencey. Again he is not marrying this Women, at least not yet.

You all need to get off your moral high horse there is nothing wrong here.

 

[BSR]

1.) I was responding to your post "Kraft didn't tweet this out. He didn't post it on his website.", I was correct, and you were being foolish.

2.) You're taking the word of an attention whoring porn star, and you're being foolish.

3.) Gronk was chastised for doing what he did with the brand involved. Here, the brand is apparently involved. You're being foolish.

Somehow you missed the sentence right before the irrelevant one you quoted where I said: "Gronk was using a porn star to promote his brand as Patriots." My quote supports that. You have no evidence to support that Kraft was doing the same thing. You are the one that is being foolish.

As for being chastized, that is just you being foolish again. The only chastisement he received was by those over reaching "fans" that think they can judge the private lives of these people. Jonathan Kraft defends Gronk

 

[smg93]

Pre Nup!

10 char.

 

[Deus Irae]

Somehow you missed the sentence right before the irrelevant one you quoted where I said: "Gronk was using a porn star to promote his brand as Patriots." My quote supports that. You have no evidence to support that Kraft was doing the same thing. You are the one that is being foolish.

I didn't miss it at all. I'm sorry you missed the obvious there.

As for being chastized, that is just you being foolish again. The only chastisement he received was by those over reaching "fans" that think they can judge the private lives of these people. Jonathan Kraft defends Gronk

I'm not the one pretending that bringing the chick to the playoff game was keeping things private. Making that claim is about as foolish as it gets. And Gronk was chastised by the organization (“Just always be careful, always watch out,"), which is what I was talking about.

Kraft gave Gronkowski advice after pics with adult star surfaced - NFL.com

 

[BSR]

When the owner of a billion dollar team is taking a woman out to a venue as public as a playoff game between the Celtics and Heat, he's not trying to keep anything private. You know this.

If he decided to take his granddaughter instead would it then be my business regarding their relationship, how he treats here, what he gave her for her birthday and if he spends enough time with her? Does that give me the right to judge based on that brief snippet everything that he is feeling towards her and his other grandchildren. Its appropriate for me to conjecture for instance that Kraft obviously hates all his other grandchildren since he only took that one to the game.

Stop being foolish.

 

[Deus Irae]

If he decided to take his granddaughter instead would it then be my business regarding their relationship, how he treats here, what he gave her for her birthday and if he spends enough time with her? Does that give me the right to judge based on that brief snippet everything that he is feeling towards her and his other grandchildren. Its appropriate for me to conjecture for instance that Kraft obviously hates all his other grandchildren since he only took that one to the game.

Stop being foolish.

I had no problem with Gronk and the pic.

I have no problem with Kraft helping out the woman.

I have a problem with the notion that Kraft's not "guilty" of something similar to what Gronk was, when he's taken the woman out in public and the audition was apparently done in a location that's identifiable with the brand and had Kraft saying/doing things that pretty clearly don't reflect well on the brand.

And your argument here is idiotic. You know that too. You should probably have followed the first rule of holes several posts back, because now you're just clowning yourself.

 

[BSR]

I didn't miss it at all. I'm sorry you missed the obvious there.



I'm not the one pretending that bringing the chick to the playoff game was keeping things private. Making that claim is about as foolish as it gets. And Gronk was chastised by the organization (“Just always be careful, always watch out,"), which is what I was talking about.

Kraft gave Gronkowski advice after pics with adult star surfaced - NFL.com

You call that being chastised? Gronk stopped Kraft in the hallway and Kraft telling him to be careful now constitutes chastisement? Stop being foolish.

At the end of the day I can't stop you from judging him. So if you want to let Kraft's relationship with this woman effect how you perceive and root for the Patriots, go right ahead. Personally I think it is silly and foolish but go right ahead.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Somehow you missed the sentence right before the irrelevant one you quoted where I said: "Gronk was using a porn star to promote his brand as Patriots." My quote supports that. You have no evidence to support that Kraft was doing the same thing. You are the one that is being foolish.

As for being chastized, that is just you being foolish again. The only chastisement he received was by those over reaching "fans" that think they can judge the private lives of these people. Jonathan Kraft defends Gronk

The link you provided was what Jonathan had to say after Gronk's shirtless dancing post superbowl loss. Here is what Robert said to him after the porn star photo session...

"I wasn't asked to apologize to anyone," he told the "Toucher and Rich Show." "I just saw Mr. Kraft in the hallway. We had a brief discussion and that's all it was."

Gronkowski said that Kraft offered him advice which he appreciated. Gronkowski described the advice as "just be careful, just always watch out."

Apparently that now translates to do as I say not as I do...