Suggs out for year

[Ring 6]

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

 

[strngplyr]

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

This. I hate injuries in football, but, I won't lose any sleep over this one. In fact, I might sleep a little better the night before the game.

 

[Ring 6]

This. I hate injuries in football, but, I won't lose any sleep over this one. In fact, I might sleep a little better the night before the game.

Hate injuires but if you told me one had to happen and I got to pick who, he would be very high on the list.

 

[TyronePoole]

I feel bad for Ravens fans, I will always despise the Steelers and their garbage fan base more than any other in sports and they're the enemy of my enemy...

That being said there was very little sympathy for Brady, and Suggs has always been a Joey Porter-esque dbag so I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it. Hopefully he retires and becomes a part of the 78%.

 

[pherein]

Hate injuires but if you told me one had to happen and I got to pick who, he would be very high on the list.

Im with you, I feel bad for the guy, but......

 

[Ring 6]

Im with you, I feel bad for the guy, but......

I heard a rumor he was playing bball with Vilma when it happened. Sorry, couldnt resist.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Hate injuires but if you told me one had to happen and I got to pick who, he would be very high on the list.

Him and Santonio Holmes

 

[Frezo]

I heard a rumor he was playing bball with Vilma when it happened. Sorry, couldnt resist.

The difference is that this time everybody paid Vilma.

 

[pdangle]

Tough luck for Suggs and the Ravens. That said, maybe this year the Pats finally stay somewhat healthy. I swear, since our loss in 2007, I feel we've been hit with more than our fair share of injuries. BB does seem to pull the PUP or IR card pretty quick, so maybe not quite as many as it seems. But enough's enough already!

So with that I offer: "Dear Baby Unitas, patron player saint of football, please see it in your heart to keep our 2012 squad moderately healthy, domestic violence free, and strongly alibied for all nightclub altercations. Ahhhhhmen, Yea-ahh G! -SPIKE BALL-

 

[Nunchucks]

I hate injuries, wish it didn't happen. I never like to hear excuses for losing "if only so-and-so was playing"

I want the Patriots to play the best, so they can be the best.

 

[pherein]

I heard a rumor he was playing bball with Vilma when it happened. Sorry, couldnt resist.

Love it :rocker:

 

[captain stone]

Him and Santonio Holmes...

...and Ray-Ray Lewis...and Bernard Pollard...and Rapistbooger...and James Harrison...and Bart Scott...
and the Mannings...

 

[BradyFTW!]

...and Ray-Ray Lewis...and Bernard Pollard...and Rapistbooger...and James Harrison...and Bart Scott...
and the Mannings...

Why the Mannings?

 

[captain stone]

I hate injuries, wish it didn't happen. I never like to hear excuses for losing "if only so-and-so was playing"

I want the Patriots to play the best, so they can be the best.

Screw that. Nobody felt sorry for us in 2008; in fact, many fans & players felt quite giddy.

I like when bad things happen to bad people. Makes me hope just a little that there might be a God, after all.

 

[supafly]

Screw that. Nobody felt sorry for us in 2008; in fact, many fans & players felt quite giddy.

That's the understatement of the decade right there.

NO ONE felt 'bad' for us that Brady went down...as you stated, most of the fans completely relished the situation.

Just remember the Steeler fans and their "Pollard for President" shirts.

In defense, there were some classy players and fans who actually meant what they said, but those were few and far between.

 

[mayoclinic]

Adam Schefter is reporting that there are eyewitnesses claiming that Suggs did in fact injure his Achilles tendon playing basketball, rather than during a conditioning test as he claimed:

.com/nfl/story/_/id/8013339/terrell...ns-was-hurt-playing-basketball-witnesses-say

If so, it's interesting that Suggs felt compelled to lie about the incident. Then again, given his history of running off his mouth, maybe not.

Suggs should come clean about injury - AFC North Blog - ESPN

 

[MoLewisrocks]

He lied because that's who he is and teams usually have clauses in player contracts that prohibit players from engaging in certain activities that generally include basketball without prior team consent (which they usually give for things like charity appearances but not playing in semi pro pick up league tournaments as he supposedly was where things can get chippy). Bisciotti even built a court for them to play on amongst themselves. The Ravens don't have to pay him for any off season off premesis injury, but he is either pathological or he was playing the PR sympathy card (I was working on conditioning drills at home to be ready for OTA's) for the fans benefit just in case or it's a little bit of both in play. Oddly though, while the Ravens could use the cap space they reportedly will pay him anyway rather than alienate him or his teamates. Because they desperately need him to make it back and they want to sign him to an extension. And because when he doesn't play something he reports overweight and out of shape and underperforms...as he did in 2009.

The Eagles are basically deducting replacement cost from Peters salary. It's a teams decision how to treat money when players are NFI.

 

[patchick]

He lied because that's who he is and teams usually have clauses in player contracts that prohibit players from engaging in certain activities that generally include basketball without prior team consent (which they usually give for things like charity appearances but not playing in semi pro pick up league tournaments as he supposedly was where things can get chippy). Bisciotti even built a court for them to play on amongst themselves. The Ravens don't have to pay him for any off season off premesis injury, but he is either pathological or he was playing the PR sympathy card (I was working on conditioning drills at home to be ready for OTA's) for the fans benefit just in case or it's a little bit of both in play. Oddly though, while the Ravens could use the cap space they reportedly will pay him anyway rather than alienate him or his teamates. Because they desperately need him to make it back and they want to sign him to an extension. And because when he doesn't play something he reports overweight and out of shape and underperforms...as he did in 2009.

The Eagles are basically deducting replacement cost from Peters salary. It's a teams decision how to treat money when players are NFI.

Agreed, the coverup clearly suggests he thinks he was in violation of his contract. That said, I think basketball is a pretty reasonable offseason activity. Unlike, say, riding a motorcycle without a helmet, basketball offers enough benefits in keeping up fitness, reaction time, etc. to offset the injury risk.

 

[mayoclinic]

Agreed, the coverup clearly suggests he thinks he was in violation of his contract. That said, I think basketball is a pretty reasonable offseason activity. Unlike, say, riding a motorcycle without a helmet, basketball offers enough benefits in keeping up fitness, reaction time, etc. to offset the injury risk.

This is all somewhat confusing. I agree with most of what Mo wrote, including Suggs handling this according to his "nature". It's not like Suggs was engaging in some high risk activity. There is inherent risk in all physical activity, and the alternative is showing up overweight and out of shape - as Mo notes, that happened in 2009 and the results were disappointing. The Ravens know all about Suggs' basketball activity, and (again, as noted) they even built a court at their team facility. I don't know why Suggs doesn't have an addendum to his contract to remove any ambiguity. It's in the team's interest that he stay in shape, and basketball offers plenty of cross-training carry over to pass rushing. There's a risk/benefit tradeoff, and incurring an injury doesn't make the activity wrong.

 

[mayoclinic]

Ian Rapoport jumps on the "let them play basketball" bandwagon:

It’s time for teams to stop caring whether their players are playing offseason hoops… - NFL.com