Should the Pats Move Price ahead of Ocho?

[NinjaZX6R]

Well, it's hard for Chad Johnson to break the starting line up. Even on 3rd downs, we always have Herno and Gronk on the field. That means we have Branch and Wes as WR and a RB to block/go on routes.

I do think they have certain packages for Chad. I think think it's hard for Price and Chad to see significant playing time when 4 of your best receivers (Wes, Branch, Gronk & Herno) on the field.

 

[randomk1]

Too soon. Our offense is rolling and it would do no good for Ocho.

 

[RIpats88]

If someone can consistently get open and make plays they'd rise on the 'option chart', why are Gonk and Ahern so high in only their 2nd year? Probably because they're productive and trustworthy, Chad isn't.

well, lets take into effect that our TE's are basically receivers and create huge matchup problems. you're not going to break up your biggest mismatch to run a 3WR set just because you are paying ocho 5million$

I dont get why people dont understand is that we run 75% of our snaps in 2 TE sets.

meaning 2 WR, 2 TE, 1 RB....youve got one of the best WR in the league, someone in Branch who has played with brady for 6years and a dynamic TE duo...that 3rd WR gets 20-30snaps a game and we expect him to put up Branch/welker type numbers??

I dont care how much he is making, you arent going to produce those numbers when you have such limited snaps..right now he is the #5 option...and he has been producing...brady seems to trust him in tough 3rd down situations which to me is more telling than his production. and at least defenses have to respect ocho, and the plays we may not see is it may help get others open(ocho's slant route caused welker to get open for a TD in the raiders game)

Price may very well be a good player, but if BB thought he was good enough to be 3rd WR right now, he wouldnt have made the trade for Ocho...once he gets more opportunities, i guarantee he will produce more. fans here seem to whatever reason get overly excited about guys like Price, ridley, vereen

 

[JoeSixPat]

I am sorry but this is the stupidest thread I have read in a long time. What possibly makes you think Price is better than Ocho. What a waste of time this thread is.

There's no question that Ocho's play in the regular season has not matched his $5.5 million price tag.

However, Price has shown flashes as a promising deep threat WR.

Those who would like to see what Price could do in a regular season game aren't saying he's better than Ocho. They're just saying they'd like to see if he can do better than Ocho in a regular season game.

 

[RIpats88]

ocho's price tag is irrelevant. we have 4 better receiving options on the depth chart...and right now Ocho is the odd man out.

if anything, I would question/wonder what Bill's idea was when he signed him considering the above fact when we already have 2 WR's whom brady has a rapport with.

 

[MassPats38]

Chad is averaging about two receptions per game in a very different system than he is accustomed to playing in. Price has a grand total of 3 receptions in two years, all of which came in a blowout win in Miami. If Price outplays anyone on the depth chart in weekly practices and consistently demonstrates to the coaches that he can do the job, there is no reason not to activate him if he isn't restricted by injury (e.g., his hamstring). Chad is resilient and gets on the field and practices, so at a minimum he appears to represent continuity, ability and the potential for further development as the season progresses. BB will not hurt the team's chances to win if Price is the better receiver, and it is worth noting that Price's preseason success came in meaningless games if that is the basis for the call to put him on the active roster (at this point in his career, Price is the 38-0 heavyweight boxer who has never gone up against a real fighter so people naturally believe he can be the champ until he gets knocked out in the first round by an actual contended). Bam Childress also had some solid preseason work with the Pats, and coincidentally also had 3 receptions in a meaningless regular season game against Miami representing 60% of his career receptions.

Price may be a good receiving option one day, and it is an accomplishment to even make the team, but IMO Chad is doing exactly what he was brought to the Pats to do, even with the mistakes that come with joining only the second team in his career.

 

[TheSolderKing]

ocho's price tag is irrelevant. we have 4 better receiving options on the depth chart...and right now Ocho is the odd man out.

if anything, I would question/wonder what Bill's idea was when he signed him considering the above fact when we already have 2 WR's whom brady has a rapport with.

Work Ethic, Plays like a kid, Loves the game 85 has never been a Cancer it was a LOW risk HIGH Reward signing. I don't get the hate. Sooner or later branch will go down and TP will have his moment in the Sun Price will get his chance let the BUST rants begin for TP in 3,2,1.

Relax... 85 has done OK overall (he is starting to become familar)... sure he dropped the Big Pass, but he has been improving and that drop is in the past.

 

[TheSolderKing]

well, lets take into effect that our TE's are basically receivers and create huge matchup problems. you're not going to break up your biggest mismatch to run a 3WR set just because you are paying ocho 5million$

I dont get why people dont understand is that we run 75% of our snaps in 2 TE sets.

meaning 2 WR, 2 TE, 1 RB....youve got one of the best WR in the league, someone in Branch who has played with brady for 6years and a dynamic TE duo...that 3rd WR gets 20-30snaps a game and we expect him to put up Branch/welker type numbers??

I dont care how much he is making, you arent going to produce those numbers when you have such limited snaps..right now he is the #5 option...and he has been producing...brady seems to trust him in tough 3rd down situations which to me is more telling than his production. and at least defenses have to respect ocho, and the plays we may not see is it may help get others open(ocho's slant route caused welker to get open for a TD in the raiders game)

Price may very well be a good player, but if BB thought he was good enough to be 3rd WR right now, he wouldnt have made the trade for Ocho...once he gets more opportunities, i guarantee he will produce more. fans here seem to whatever reason get overly excited about guys like Price, ridley, vereen

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exactly, Our 2 TE's are our primary pass,catch, YAC and block offense.

they set the table and THEY create the mismatches downfield

 

[brady199]

Too soon. Our offense is rolling and it would do no good for Ocho.

Well I'm sure if Ocho sat a few games the Offense wouldn't come to a screaching hault.

 

[brady199]

well, lets take into effect that our TE's are basically receivers and create huge matchup problems. you're not going to break up your biggest mismatch to run a 3WR set just because you are paying ocho 5million$

I dont get why people dont understand is that we run 75% of our snaps in 2 TE sets.

meaning 2 WR, 2 TE, 1 RB....youve got one of the best WR in the league, someone in Branch who has played with brady for 6years and a dynamic TE duo...that 3rd WR gets 20-30snaps a game and we expect him to put up Branch/welker type numbers??

I dont care how much he is making, you arent going to produce those numbers when you have such limited snaps..right now he is the #5 option...and he has been producing...brady seems to trust him in tough 3rd down situations which to me is more telling than his production. and at least defenses have to respect ocho, and the plays we may not see is it may help get others open(ocho's slant route caused welker to get open for a TD in the raiders game)

Price may very well be a good player, but if BB thought he was good enough to be 3rd WR right now, he wouldnt have made the trade for Ocho...once he gets more opportunities, i guarantee he will produce more. fans here seem to whatever reason get overly excited about guys like Price, ridley, vereen

Probably the same reason fans all across the Country feel like there team has improved after draft day.

Is it ok that I was overly excited when the Pats drafted Gronk and Hernandez?

Also what BB thinks about a player in June has nothing to do with what BB thinks about that same player mid October. Things change for better or worse, thats why moves are made during the season, just an FYI.

 

[brady199]

Too soon. Our offense is rolling and it would do no good for Ocho.

kinda funny how "TheSolderKing" "liked" this comment, but yet he voted to bench ochocinco for a few games in favor of Price. LOL:bricks:

 

[patsfan06]

The fact that Price hasn't been able to overtake Ocho already is embarrassing for him. He isn't seeing the field unless there is an injury.

So, no Price should not be moved up on the depth chart. He hasn't proved jack ****, and Ocho has been improving.

 

[RayClay]

what is so hard for people to get? It does not matter who the 5th option is..its not Ocho, its the fact that One of the best WR in the nfl, and the best TE duo in the nfl and Branch who has the same brain as Tom Brady are on the same team as Ocho. Ofcourse its going to be tough for him to get looks.

Pretty much what I was going to say. I always laugh about these pre season debates about the 6th receiver. No QB in the world ever used 6 wideouts, two excellent tight ends (like we have) fine RBs coming out of the backfield, etc. it's simple mathematics.

We like to use welker and the tight ends and it's very successful. TB also has a great chemistry with Branch. anyone else, besides RBs who are used for different purpose in the passing game, are going to have to earn every reception they get until they are trusted near as much as Branch and Welker, which might take a while.

I don't care who the next receiver down the line is, until one steps up and earns a few more looks. I'm sure Price wil get some shots and hopefully Ocho gets more (I don't care, our pass offense isn't lacking now) Maybe slater will get ashot here and there.

People worry way too much about personalities rather than team performance. If no one's forcing themselves into the lineup, it means to me our main guys are getting it done and our needs coud be met by some waiver wire guy idf needed which would be fine with me.

We're also overlooking the fact we have another special teamer who has filled in, has experience with the system and looked pretty good on occasion who we aren't even exploiting in Edelman.

If one of Ocho or Price starts to get 3-5 receptions instead of 2 a game, that's great, but what does it really matter? There's only one football a play, let them push for time at practice and grab opportunities as they come, this sweating about marginal receivers is pointless, it doesn't matter what their resume is.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Am I experiencing deja vu or did someone make this exact thread before the Buffalo/Oakland game

 

[TheSolderKing]

kinda funny how "TheSolderKing" "liked" this comment, but yet he voted to bench ochocinco for a few games in favor of Price. LOL:bricks:

I thought is said "ONE" game...


I scan... just like my college reading for History and such... I get the content from Class. Scanning is very effective imo. I have a 3.35 overall and I'll take it.

Scan habit. my bad thought it was "ONE"

I'd sit Edelman in favor of Price any god damn day... I'd sit Edelman for a "FEW" not Ocho. I'd sit Ocho for merely one at the most. We have Edelman so why is the thread not about him?

 

[TheSolderKing]

The fact that Price hasn't been able to overtake Ocho already is embarrassing for him. He isn't seeing the field unless there is an injury.

So, no Price should not be moved up on the depth chart. He hasn't proved jack ****, and Ocho has been improving.

that is a VERY good point PF06

 

[PatsBoy12]

I really don't know if anyone can answer this question without first seeing Price on the field in real action this season. We saw a snippet in the preseason and nothing since. How can anyone definitely say if one is better than the other without any real sampling of Price?

 

[PatsDeb]

Let's see if Price can make it on the field first. Ocho hasn't been bad as a 3rd receiver. He can throw a block, which is what they've used him for primarily.

 

[RIpats88]

even once Ochocinco gets it going, the most hes going to get is 3-5catches a game(he was targeted 3 times the last 2 games)....theres just so many other options on this team that its unrealistic to expect him to have a HUGE impact....even woodhead coming back will get receptions out of the backfield

in limited opportunities he's still doing better than Edelman, slater etc.

the boston media for whatever reason wants to jump on everything the guy says/does for not producing like Randy Moss(when really, thats not his role)..heck, look at Tom E Currans new article about how ocho cares more about his "brand" than football...but with no evidence to say he hasnt been working hard(which all the team have been saying he has been working hard)...we just need him to be a better threat/better production than brandon tate gave us last year

 

[italia44]

I thought is said "ONE" game...


I scan... just like my college reading for History and such... I get the content from Class. Scanning is very effective imo. I have a 3.35 overall and I'll take it.

Scan habit. my bad thought it was "ONE"

I'd sit Edelman in favor of Price any god damn day... I'd sit Edelman for a "FEW" not Ocho. I'd sit Ocho for merely one at the most. We have Edelman so why is the thread not about him?

Sometimes,SolderKing.....it's best to simply reply:GFY,instead of over-explaining an honest mistake......just my take,buddy:rocker: