The 2011 season: The Jets Suck (merged a lot)

[Joker]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

I didn't realize there was a technical term for "team to beat" But the Jets are the team we have to beat in the division to get somewhere, So in my eyes they are the team to beat. I would trade all the division titles for more playoff W's. Because those are the W's that count most. And the Jets have more of them the past couple years.

So you would trade something for NOTHING....you'll go far in life employing THAT concept....:bricks:

 

[Tunescribe]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

A bit of background for newbies to this subject matter:

Whatever the New Jersey Green Beans (Jets) do on the field -- win, lose or draw -- is NOT the ultimate barometer of their loathsome suckage. It starts at the top with their slimy weasel of an owner (the unfortunately named Woody Johnson). From there, it trickles down to morally bankrupt GM Tannen-bum, carnival barker/foot fetishist Jabba Wrecks and his crooked coaching staff. The next layer of organized suckiness, of course, is the players -- a bizarre collection of misfits, criminals and strange mental cases including the likes of Antonio Cromartie (population exploder), Bart Scott (compulsive gums flapper), LaClassian Tomlinson (supreme egotist), Li'l Marky Sanchez (high school girls love him, and vice versa), Santonio Holmes (drug abuser, mental midget, etc.), and Plexiglas Furnace (convicted gun goofball/confirmed moron). Those are only the primary offenders. Last but certainly not least, you have one of the suckiest fan bases in all of professional sports -- a motley gaggle of terminally immature, boorish, delusional lost souls who know very, very little about football.

This is only a very basic primer on NJGB suckology. Unfortunately, there is much more to come.

 

[Zachary]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

So you would trade something for NOTHING....you'll go far in life employing THAT concept....:bricks:

I don't recall ever saying that. What I said was that I would rather finish 10-6 and win the SB then finish, I don't know lets say 16-0 and lose in the SB. While it's nice that we finished 1st in the division, I would have have rather finished 2nd, and beat the jets in the playoffs. Is that weird?

 

[Joker]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

 

[Joker]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

I didn't realize there was a technical term for "team to beat" But the Jets are the team we have to beat in the division to get somewhere, So in my eyes they are the team to beat.I would trade all the division titles for more playoff W's. Because those are the W's that count most. And the Jets have more of them the past couple years.

THAT is what you posted. THAT is pretty damned specific. You think playoff wins count for something. That is erroneous. Only a Super Bowl win counts for anything in the playoffs. In the regular season, finishing first in your division is what counts. The Patriots did that last season. The beat out the team they had to to do it.So you're wrong on THAT count too....but go ahead, keep thinking playoff failure(which IS what it is if you don't win the Bowl) is the only thing that matters.In fact, let's just crapcan the regular season and jump right to the playoffs from now on and give trophies to all the losers....what a concept

 

[Deus Irae]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

I didn't realize there was a technical term for "team to beat" But the Jets are the team we have to beat in the division to get somewhere, So in my eyes they are the team to beat. I would trade all the division titles for more playoff W's. Because those are the W's that count most. And the Jets have more of them the past couple years.

The Patriots don't have to beat the Jets to become division winner. They're already that. They also don't necessarily have to beat the Jets to get to the AFCCG, since that's a matter of seeding.

"Team to beat" usually refers to the team that won something the year before or the team that is the favorite to win something in the year at hand. In both cases, it's the Patriots, not the Jets, that fit the bill, as the Patriots won the division and are the favorites to win the AFC.

Using your logic, one could just as easily say that the Ravens are the team to beat.

 

[Zachary]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

THAT is what you posted. THAT is pretty damned specific. You think playoff wins count for something. That is erroneous. Only a Super Bowl win counts for anything in the playoffs. In the regular season, finishing first in your division is what counts. The Patriots did that last season. The beat out the team they had to to do it.So you're wrong on THAT count too....but go ahead, keep thinking playoff failure(which IS what it is if you don't win the Bowl) is the only thing that matters.In fact, let's just crapcan the regular season and jump right to the playoffs from now on and give trophies to all the losers....what a concept

And how do you get to the Super Bowl? By winning playoff games. Not AFC East division titles. What is a great regular season if you can't win in the playoffs? What you are telling me is that you are OK with how last season ended, with the Jets beating the Pats in the playoffs. All because we had a better regular season. I personally just can't buy into that philosophy. I however won't sit here and tell you're wrong for that.

 

[Off The Grid]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

Jets PRIDE, Baby!! :rocker:

 

[Joker]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

right...and actually..to be specific..the team to beat in the playoffs is the NEXT one

 

[Zachary]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

The Patriots don't have to beat the Jets to become division winner. They're already that. They also don't necessarily have to beat the Jets to get to the AFCCG, since that's a matter of seeding.

"Team to beat" usually refers to the team that won something the year before or the team that is the favorite to win something in the year at hand. In both cases, it's the Patriots, not the Jets, that fit the bill, as the Patriots won the division and are the favorites to win the AFC.

Using your logic, one could just as easily say that the Ravens are the team to beat.

So we are in agreement that there is no technical term for "team to beat" and it's all a matter of preference. The Jets beat us in the most important game of our season last year. In my opinion, that makes them the team to beat, we have to prove that we can beat them when it counts.

 

[PATSNUTme]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

I don't recall ever saying that. What I said was that I would rather finish 10-6 and win the SB then finish, I don't know lets say 16-0 and lose in the SB. While it's nice that we finished 1st in the division, I would have have rather finished 2nd, and beat the jets in the playoffs. Is that weird?

And then lose the next game like the Jets? And that got them where??

‪Don't call me Shirley‬‏ - YouTube

 

[Off The Grid]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

It's pretty bizarre to see someone describe the Jets as "The team to beat."

Fact is: Both teams have something to prove.

 

[Joker]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

And how do you get to the Super Bowl? By winning playoff games. Not AFC East division titles. What is a great regular season if you can't win in the playoffs? What you are telling me is that you are OK with how last season ended, with the Jets beating the Pats in the playoffs. All because we had a better regular season. I personally just can't buy into that philosophy. I however won't sit here and tell you're wrong for that.

The surest way to get IN the playoffs is to WIN the division...you do see THAT, right? THAT is pretty damn important in my book.

 

[Tunescribe]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

Jets PRIDE, Baby!! :rocker:

It was really something how Westhoff, who's as shady as they come, tossed that guy under the bus in the blink of an eye. Then he went on the radio and tried to blame the Patriots!

 

[Sivy]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

So we are in agreement that there is no technical term for "team to beat" and it's all a matter of preference. The Jets beat us in the most important game of our season last year. In my opinion, that makes them the team to beat, we have to prove that we can beat them when it counts.

Jets are not close to the team to beat for anything.

and usually only a jets fan would defend them this much.

 

[Joker]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

It was really something how Westhoff, who's as shady as they come, tossed that guy under the bus in the blink of an eye. Then he went on the radio and tried to blame the Patriots!

he didn't try...he DID blame the Pats....man, talk about Twilight Zone...let me see if I can find the quotes..

heh...nice pic of the drunk too...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...cuses-patriots-of-building-sideline-wall-too/

 

[Zachary]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

Jets are not close to the team to beat for anything.

and usually only a jets fan would defend them this much.

I'm not defending the Jets. I'm trying to make the point that winning in the post season is more important then winning in the regular season. That is all.

Let's throw out the entire term "team to beat". The Jets have had some success against us in the head to head match-ups, and I think it's pretty important that we change that.

 

[Nikolai]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

I'd be a real heel if I didn't put my foot down and say the Jest suck. I'm not going to toe the line of political correctness, for the sole reason that the Jest suckage is undeniable.

By the way, Jetsfaninpeace, you're alright. I think your playoff teams are about right on. I don't expect the Ravens to be in the mix this year, but I don't think the Texans will be either. I might be killed for saying this, but I can see the Browns in the mix before I'd see the Texans. Then again, how could the Browns be better than the Ravens? Tough to figure out, I guess. Eh...

 

[Off The Grid]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

The Jets beat us in the most important game of our season last year. In my opinion, that makes them the team to beat, we have to prove that we can beat them when it counts.

Honestly, that's just LUDICROUSLY foolish, my friend.

* Were the 1987 Vikings, who went 8-7, "The Team To Beat" because the chips fell for them and they beat the 13-2 Miners??

* Were the 1994 Nuggets, who went 42-40, "The Team To Beat" because the Top Seed Sonics CHOKED???

You see where I'm going with this??

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Unlike virtually every other soul in New England, I respect and admire Coach Ryan.

The guy is an utterly brilliant Coach, he's got the heart of a @#$%ing LION, and, despite the frothing, fuming efforts of the Mass Media to paint him as a BlowHard ~ a notion that 99% of the denizens of New England have ALL too happily embraced, I'm afraid ~ I have YET to read a word from him that is anything but thoughtfull ~ yes!! thoughtfull!! ~ and respectfull ~ yes!! respectfull!! ~ of his rivals and of this Great Game.

But..."The Team to BEAT????"

Give me a BREAK!!

Get back to me when they win a Championship...of any kind!!

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The Patriots are THE Alpha Team.

Not just in the AFC East.

In all the WORLD.

And this has been true for a LONG...LONG...time.

THANK you.

 

[Zachary]

re: The 2011 season: The Jets Suck(merged)

Honestly, that's just LUDICROUSLY foolish, my friend.

* Were the 1987 Vikings, who went 8-7, "The Team To Beat" because the chips fell for them and they beat the 13-2 Miners??

* Were the 1994 Nuggets, who went 42-40, "The Team To Beat" because the Top Seed Sonics CHOKED???

You see where I'm going with this??

***

Unlike virtually every other soul in New England, I respect and admire Coach Ryan.

The guy is an utterly brilliant Coach, he's got the heart of a @#$%ing LION, and, despite the frothing, fuming efforts of the Mass Media to paint him as a BlowHard ~ a notion that 99% of the denizens of New England have ALL too happily embraced, I'm afraid ~ I have YET to read a word from him that is anything but thoughtfull ~ yes!! thoughtfull!! ~ and respectfull ~ yes!! respectfull!! ~ of his rivals and of this Great Game.

But..."The Team to BEAT????"

Give me a BREAK!!

Get back to me when they win a Championship...of any kind!!

***

The Patriots are THE Alpha Team.

Not just in the AFC East.

In all the WORLD.

And this has been true for a LONG...LONG...time.

THANK you.

That's all well and good. But the alpha team lost to the Jet's in the playoffs last year. In my mind that makes their season more successful. They got to keep playing football. The Patriots went home. I think winning the division is great (and important) don't get me wrong. But I'm dealing in the present day. Not 1987, and certainly not the 1994 NBA season. In my book the team that plays the longest is the most successful. And last year the Jets played longer then the Pats. I'm not dealing with the term "team to beat" anymore. I learned my lesson there. Not falling on that grenade again.