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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Further, claiming that Cassel did not yield a second round pick is disingenuous.
It's not like Hoyer would be cheap though. Any team trading for him with the plan of him being their starter (which I don't see happening this offseason) is going to have to give him starter money as part of the trade.
I don't have the article saved. PATS Cassel was offered a #1 from Denver
I guess I don't know my stuff. The Bleacher Report backs what I said...
apparently it is credible and way more so than AJ:rocker:
what o I know what does Lombardi know
I guess we r toooopid:bricks:
QB's are WHERE IT BEGINS. u want that kid w/ Pro EXP or a college unknown
EXP is every thing in life.
I am NOT ashamed of myself.
I happen to think that Lombardi knew or should have known the 2008 franchise tag number when he opined about Cassel's trade value.
I guess if you are arguing Lombardi is an idiot, that is fine, and I agree.
If you are arguing a team won't discount a player with a $15 million dollar price tag over a player with a $500,000 price tag, I would disagree.
I don't have the article saved. PATS Cassel was offered a #1 from Denver
I guess I don't know my stuff. The Bleacher Report backs what I said...
apparently it is credible and way more so than AJ:rocker:
what o I know what does Lombardi know
I guess we r toooopid:bricks:
QB's are WHERE IT BEGINS. u want that kid w/ Pro EXP or a college unknown
EXP is every thing in life.
Why would they trade him AND Vrable for a 2nd if they were offered a 1st for him alone.I don't have the article saved. PATS Cassel was offered a #1 from Denver
Apparently not, and no the Bleacher Report and Lombardi do not back up what you said. All that was said was Lombardi said he would try to trade for Hoyer if he were still a GM, not that Hoyer had more value than Kolb, or would get a 2nd.I guess I don't know my stuff. The Bleacher Report backs what I said...
apparently it is credible and way more so than
It is no more credible than any post on this board. Have you read the Bleacher Report? They are written by fans. There is no credibility beyond a fan passing along something he read, and expanding his own opinion to it.AJ:rocker:
what o I know what does Lombardi know
I guess we r toooopid:bricks:
And Hoyer really has none. Most teams will take a guy they rate highly out of college over a guy who went undrafted but spent 2 years holdig a clipboard. Hoyer hasn't really done anything to change the opinions NFL teams had of his ability when they didn't draft him. Is he better than they thought? Possibly, but he has not shown it yet beyond having the confidence of BB, just like Rohan Davey before him.QB's are WHERE IT BEGINS. u want that kid w/ Pro EXP or a college unknown
EXP is every thing in life.
I don't have the article saved. PATS Cassel was offered a #1 from Denver
I guess I don't know my stuff. The Bleacher Report backs what I said...
apparently it is credible and way more so than AJ:rocker:
what o I know what does Lombardi know
I guess we r toooopid:bricks:
QB's are WHERE IT BEGINS. u want that kid w/ Pro EXP or a college unknown
EXP is every thing in life.
With all due respect, I too was stunned at Miguel's post. Hoyer's cap number is only $492,000 for one more year and then I believe under current rules, he would become a restricted free agent after next season.
Matt Cassel cost $14,650,000 under the franchise tag.
Further, claiming that Cassel did not yield a second round pick is disingenuous. Cassel was traded for the 34th pick, (nearly a first rounder). Vrabel had a cap number of $4.3 million dollars ( including a $2.2 million base salary and another $1 million in a roster bonus coming due ) in a year that Vrabel would turn 34 before the start of the season. Vrabel played two seasons for the Chiefs averaging one (1) sack per season and zero (0) interceptions.
Had Vrabel not been included in the trade he may have very well been a ( well justified ) cap casualty.
Yup.
Didn't the Lions offer us #33 for Cassel, straight up?? If true, that would clearly show that ~ considering the Salary Cap implications ~ offloading Vrabel's contract was considered more beneficial than retaining his services, to one Coach Belichick.
moose learn to type u said to me?? what r u talking about:bricks:
I am the last person in the world to act as the spelling or grammar police. That being said, your posts have so many spelling and grammatical errors, coupled with emoticons and abbreviated words, that they cross the line and become almost illegible. U is not a word, by the same token, r isn't a word either, it is ok to use them for texting, but you shouldn't use them when posting on a board with grown ups. Your posts are so bad they distract from your point, which then begs the question, why bother posting at all if you don't care how you say something?
I don't have the article saved. PATS Cassel was offered a #1 from Denver
Hoyer has no real value, though he's looked composed in limited action.
Cassel was a weird case because he got stuck behind two of the highest rated QBs on the best team in college football.
He stepped in and continually improved and played like a pro against top competition.
Sometimes opportunity meets need, but I'd be surprised if Hoyer could attract a 7th, barring some sort of notable heroics.
No. They drafted Stafford #1.Yup.
Didn't the Lions offer us #33 for Cassel, straight up?? If true, that would clearly show that ~ considering the Salary Cap implications ~ offloading Vrabel's contract was considered more beneficial than retaining his services, to one Coach Belichick.
Sage Rosenfels, at 31, was traded for a 4th. Drew Henson had been retired from football for 4 years and was traded for a 3rd.
The 2nd may be too optimistic, but a 7th seems way beyond what the market has been paying for young QBs with some potential.
I am the last person in the world to act as the spelling or grammar police. That being said, your posts have so many spelling and grammatical errors, coupled with emoticons and abbreviated words, that they cross the line and become almost illegible. U is not a word, by the same token, r isn't a word either, it is ok to use them for texting, but you shouldn't use them when posting on a board with grown ups. Your posts are so bad they distract from your point, which then begs the question, why bother posting at all if you don't care how you say something?