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she's an underage hottie...run and tell Sanchez ASAP
But, Cassel also had a $15m pricetag on his head for one year, so Bill had to take the best early offer he had.Cassell who started 15 games and played most of the 16th did not get a second (Vrabel was included) but Hoyer who has never started a game will get one. Call me skeptical.
Let's not forget Mike Lombardi's Cassel prediction - "Once the tag comes on him, all bets are off. His value is a first round pick above 15 along with a second rounder."
But, Cassel also had a $15m pricetag on his head for one year, so Bill had to take the best early offer he had.
And Vrabel would likely have been cut as a cap casualty that was rumoured at the time. So, trading him to the Chiefs kept him out of the AFC East.
But, Cassel also had a $15m pricetag on his head for one year, so Bill had to take the best early offer he had.
And Vrabel would likely have been cut as a cap casualty that was rumoured at the time. So, trading him to the Chiefs kept him out of the AFC East.
But, Cassel also had a $15m pricetag on his head for one year, so Bill had to take the best early offer he had.
And Vrabel would likely have been cut as a cap casualty that was rumoured at the time. So, trading him to the Chiefs kept him out of the AFC East.
He didn't have to have a $15 million price tag (for one season only) - he and the Chiefs could have committed to a longer contract which would have brought the cap hit down.
As it stood the Chiefs had ample cap room and there was little incentive for them to give up a one year audition and risk future guaranteed money and incentives.
Who in the hell is Hoyer.
This plus 1.
I don't think Hoyer is worth a #2 but all you long time posters who keep bringing up Cassell value and then conveniently forget his enormous price tag should be ashamed of yourself. Remember the old salary cap Miguel?
Hoyer is a backup QB that will be #3 on the QB depth chart as of the first game of the season. Some peeps here think he has trade value. Really now...
He's about as valuable as P Manning's Matt backup, who ever the hell he is.
the pats got a 2th round pick for a 11 win QB who became a pro blow QB thats took KC to the playoffs and the pats threw in a starting OLB
i am a fan of Hoyers but i dont see the pats geting a 2th for him any time soon as far as Mallett goes every one wants to talk about how at one point he was the #2 or #3 ranked QB in this Draft but IMO none of the QB's in this Draft were all that good alot of them may have went hign in this Draft but i dont see any of them becomeing great
With all due respect, I too was stunned at Miguel's post. Hoyer's cap number is only $492,000 for one more year and then I believe under current rules, he would become a restricted free agent after next season.
Matt Cassel cost $14,650,000 under the franchise tag.
Further, claiming that Cassel did not yield a second round pick is disingenuous. Cassel was traded for the 34th pick, (nearly a first rounder). Vrabel had a cap number of $4.3 million dollars ( including a $2.2 million base salary and another $1 million in a roster bonus coming due ) in a year that Vrabel would turn 34 before the start of the season. Vrabel played two seasons for the Chiefs averaging one (1) sack per season and zero (0) interceptions.
Had Vrabel not been included in the trade he may have very well been a ( well justified ) cap casualty.
If Hoyer is worth a #2, I'll jump off the Tobin Bridge.
By default Hoyer is the #3 QB behind Mallet. Mallet has first round talent. However, he's a bit of a selfish a-hole.
The way I see it is... Mallet will get the majority of Pre-Season reps, and the entire league player personel deptartments will be watching all his film. It's possible that if a team wants a QB in 2012 they just might trade for Mallet before the next draft. If Mallet looks decent the Pats will def get a #1 for him.
If Hoyer is worth a #2, I'll jump off the Tobin Bridge.
By default Hoyer is the #3 QB behind Mallet. Mallet has first round talent. However, he's a bit of a selfish a-hole.
The way I see it is... Mallet will get the majority of Pre-Season reps, and the entire league player personel deptartments will be watching all his film. It's possible that if a team wants a QB in 2012 they just might trade for Mallet before the next draft. If Mallet looks decent the Pats will def get a #1 for him.
But, Cassel also had a $15m pricetag on his head for one year, so Bill had to take the best early offer he had.
This plus 1.
I don't think Hoyer is worth a #2 but all you long time posters who keep bringing up Cassell value and then conveniently forget his enormous price tag should be ashamed of yourself. Remember the old salary cap Miguel?
But, Cassel also had a $15m pricetag on his head for one year, so Bill had to take the best early offer he had.
And Vrabel would likely have been cut as a cap casualty that was rumoured at the time. So, trading him to the Chiefs kept him out of the AFC East.