So what's the writing on the wall for BJGE?

[SeanBruschi54]

I'm not the one who's going to go around looking. If you can't back up your claims, then they are not facts.

Im also not going to waste my time to satisfy one posters need for a link.

If you dont watch NFL network and read profootballtalk then chalk up everything i said as a lie.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Bang on. It will be situational and there will be different game plans every week. BJGE will be the day one starter, but that doesn't mean much in this RBBC. If they all contribute in their own way, I am happy. I don't think BJGE is going anywhere. BB gave him his chance for a reason. AND HE STILL HASN'T FUMBLED.

BJGE will need to be outplayed, injured or not on the team to lose his job.

That is something BB has been consistent with since day 1.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I mean they don't change the predictablity of the offense, each of these RB's has a specific style....except for Vereen.

Predictability is one thing. Effectiveness is another.

Everyone and their brother knew Dillon was getting the rock 20 times a game in 04. He still ran for 100 yds.

Everyone knew TB was throwing to either Moss or Welker in 07. He still threw for TDs and completed passes.

Talent and execution overcomes predictability.

 

[doesntmatter1]

This is not good for BJGE but this is extremely necessary. I truly feel that BJGE is the worst starting back in the league. I seriously couldn't think of 1 team that had a worst starter(maybe the lions b4 they got best and leshoure).

I can't remember him ever winning us any games either. Look at our latest loss against the Jets. He didn't help us and they eventually gave more carries to Woodhead(love new 39). When we were trying to comeback I vividly remember BJGE getting stuffed on 2nd & 1 and on the very next play get stuffed again forcing us to punt and sucked the life out of our offense. Even when he has a good game I always feel that Morris would have done equally as well if he was given those carries(assuming he doesn't fall apart).

But I dont feel this way toward Woodhead. After we lost Kevin and traded Moss, he is one of the reasons why our offense functioned at such a high level. For example, I truly do not feel we would have beaten Baltimore without him.

If Vereen and Ridley work out like I expect that would make him very expendable and save on the cap(2nd round tender).

 

[Patspsycho]

Im also not going to waste my time to satisfy one posters need for a link.

If you dont watch NFL network and read profootballtalk then chalk up everything i said as a lie.

In other words, you think nothing of yapping without having anything credible to back it up.

 

[SeanBruschi54]

In other words, you think nothing of yapping without having anything credible to back it up.

Like I said I dont come onto message boards to make up lies, think what you will.

I dont have any links to what was said so it obviously is all lies.

 

[Patspsycho]

This is not good for BJGE but this is extremely necessary. I truly feel that BJGE is the worst starting back in the league. I seriously couldn't think of 1 team that had a worst starter(maybe the lions b4 they got best and leshoure).

I can't remember him ever winning us any games either. Look at our latest loss against the Jets. He didn't help us and they eventually gave more carries to Woodhead(love new 39). When we were trying to comeback I vividly remember BJGE getting stuffed on 2nd & 1 and on the very next play get stuffed again forcing us to punt and sucked the life out of our offense. Even when he has a good game I always feel that Morris would have done equally as well if he was given those carries(assuming he doesn't fall apart).

But I dont feel this way toward Woodhead. After we lost Kevin and traded Moss, he is one of the reasons why our offense functioned at such a high level. For example, I truly do not feel we would have beaten Baltimore without him.

If Vereen and Ridley work out like I expect that would make him very expendable and save on the cap(2nd round tender).

Yikes! We better go back to Maroney.. Where is he? He's still available isn't he?

 

[RobertWeathers]

This is not good for BJGE but this is extremely necessary. I truly feel that BJGE is the worst starting back in the league. I seriously couldn't think of 1 team that had a worst starter(maybe the lions b4 they got best and leshoure).

I can't remember him ever winning us any games either. Look at our latest loss against the Jets. He didn't help us and they eventually gave more carries to Woodhead(love new 39). When we were trying to comeback I vividly remember BJGE getting stuffed on 2nd & 1 and on the very next play get stuffed again forcing us to punt and sucked the life out of our offense. Even when he has a good game I always feel that Morris would have done equally as well if he was given those carries(assuming he doesn't fall apart).

But I dont feel this way toward Woodhead. After we lost Kevin and traded Moss, he is one of the reasons why our offense functioned at such a high level. For example, I truly do not feel we would have beaten Baltimore without him.

If Vereen and Ridley work out like I expect that would make him very expendable and save on the cap(2nd round tender).

Woody is a fine CoP runner but just like KFaulk, anything more than 5-7 carries a game, he gets tired and puts the ball on the ground- thus losing his overall effectiveness.

The Jets game was not his proudest moment either as he fumbled and ran for 3.3 ypc vs a 3 and 4 man front most of the game

 

[RobertWeathers]

Yikes! We better go back to Maroney.. Where is he? He's still available isn't he?

Yes- in 2012 after he spends a year in jail on weapons and drug charges.

 

[Deus Irae]

The Patriots have moved on from/seem to be moving on from Maroney (who fell of the table), Taylor (injured too often), Morris (losing effectiveness) and Faulk (age, injury). Had those players not all crapped out last year, BJGE would have been RB4 again. Because they all crapped out, BJGE was put in a position where he had to act as the lead RB, and he's really not good enough for that.

Now they'll all battle it out in camp, whenever that takes place. But before people start handing out the bouquets to the new RBs, let's remember the Patriots RBs drafted under Belichick:

2011 2 24 56 Shane Vereen California
2011 3 9 73 Stevan Ridley Louisiana State
2007 6 34 208 Justise Hairston Central Connecticut St.
2006 1 21 21 Laurence Maroney Minnesota
2004 4 32 128 Cedric Cobbs Arkansas
2002 7 26 237 Antwoine Womack Virginia
2000 3 14 76 J.R. Redmond Arizona State
2000 7 33 239 Patrick Pass Georgia

Let's hope for the best without losing our minds with expectations.

 

[JackBauer]

That's not a terrible track record with RB's.

Obviously Maroney was the great disappointment, but even he was productive for a bit before injuries took their toll.

 

[Deus Irae]

That's not a terrible track record with RB's.

Obviously Maroney was the great disappointment, but even he was productive for a bit before injuries took their toll.

Other than Maroney, the best pick was a backup RB who mostly played fullback.

 

[DarrylS]

This is not good for BJGE but this is extremely necessary. I truly feel that BJGE is the worst starting back in the league. I seriously couldn't think of 1 team that had a worst starter(maybe the lions b4 they got best and leshoure).

I can't remember him ever winning us any games either. Look at our latest loss against the Jets. He didn't help us and they eventually gave more carries to Woodhead(love new 39). When we were trying to comeback I vividly remember BJGE getting stuffed on 2nd & 1 and on the very next play get stuffed again forcing us to punt and sucked the life out of our offense. Even when he has a good game I always feel that Morris would have done equally as well if he was given those carries(assuming he doesn't fall apart).

But I dont feel this way toward Woodhead. After we lost Kevin and traded Moss, he is one of the reasons why our offense functioned at such a high level. For example, I truly do not feel we would have beaten Baltimore without him.

If Vereen and Ridley work out like I expect that would make him very expendable and save on the cap(2nd round tender).

Maybe you were watching a different player on a different team, but BJGE is extremely servicable.. he very seldom gets negative yards, has never fumbled, is durable and scored 13 touchdowns..

BJGE does not win us games, he is a player on a team that contributes to a win.. this team is built around Tom Brady and BJGE is a complimentary player..

 

[RobertWeathers]

this team is built around Tom Brady and BJGE is a complimentary player..

That is the problem. TB needs top-level help at various positions throughout the roster. RB, WR and defense. This team needs to win in a multitude of ways in the playoffs.

Since 2004, TB had had 5 excellent seasons and 0 titles to show for it.

 

[fumbrunner]

BJGE was put in a position where he had to act as the lead RB, and he's really not good enough for that.

1000 yds, 13TDs and 0 fumbles in a time share scenario. I think he did just fine.

 

[Deus Irae]

1000 yds, 13TDs and 0 fumbles in a time share scenario. I think he did just fine.

Well, we disagree. The yardage was a product of carries, not greatness.

 

[Snake Eyes]

That is the problem. TB needs top-level help at various positions throughout the roster. RB, WR and defense. This team needs to win in a multitude of different ways in the playoffs.

Since 2004, TB had had 5 excellent seasons and 0 titles to show for it.

I agree, that they need upgrades, but we just upgraded the RB position. I think if we can get an impact WR and Kiwanuka to threaten the edge we'll be ready to roll.

 

[randomk1]

This is not good for BJGE but this is extremely necessary. I truly feel that BJGE is the worst starting back in the league. I seriously couldn't think of 1 team that had a worst starter(maybe the lions b4 they got best and leshoure).

I can't remember him ever winning us any games either. Look at our latest loss against the Jets. He didn't help us and they eventually gave more carries to Woodhead(love new 39). When we were trying to comeback I vividly remember BJGE getting stuffed on 2nd & 1 and on the very next play get stuffed again forcing us to punt and sucked the life out of our offense. Even when he has a good game I always feel that Morris would have done equally as well if he was given those carries(assuming he doesn't fall apart).

But I dont feel this way toward Woodhead. After we lost Kevin and traded Moss, he is one of the reasons why our offense functioned at such a high level. For example, I truly do not feel we would have beaten Baltimore without him.

If Vereen and Ridley work out like I expect that would make him very expendable and save on the cap(2nd round tender).

Lawfirm deserves alot more credit than that. Imagine if he had been injured and what our running attack would've looked like? He is not Adrian Peterson but thanks to him our running attack was effective for most of the season.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I agree, that they need upgrades, but we just upgraded the RB position. I think if we can get an impact WR and Kiwanuka to threaten the edge we'll be ready to roll.

I think adding a solid WR would be fine- but not critical.

I've been a broken record since 2008. Defense. Defense. Defense.

 

[fumbrunner]

Well, we disagree. The yardage was a product of carries, not greatness.

He was tied for 10th with MJD in YPC among backs with more than 150 carries. He and Forte were the only ones in that group without a fumble. We'll agree to disagree.