OT: Raiders just lost

[WhiZa]

Next week they have Houston coming off a loss. I dont see them winning that one either.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

Re: OT: Thanks Raiders. Your draft pick is looking good

Have you watched him much this year? He's not looking so great, IMO.

Have you watched him? He's been absolutely spectacular so far!

 

[MrNathanDrake]

Re: OT: Thanks Raiders. Your draft pick is looking good

With a Top 10 pick, and not many glaring holes in the team that don't already have a youngster developing, we can go with....

Best Player Available.

 

[BradyMossWelker]

Re: OT: Thanks Raiders. Your draft pick is looking good

With a Top 10 pick, and not many glaring holes in the team that don't already have a youngster developing, we can go with....

Best Player Available.

Agree, let's go with Jake Locker or Luck.
Great pick.

 

[UofApatsfan]

Re: OT: Thanks Raiders. Your draft pick is looking good

Contrary to popular belief in this thread, I actually think the Raiders have the potential to rattle off 7 or so wins this year. Gradkowski is a good starter who doesn't put his team in horrible spots like Campbell and Russell do. As bad as he looked last year, DHB is starting to play well and develop a chemistry with gradkowski, Murphy has put together two straight great weeks, and McFadden is living up to his talent. They also have a reliable tight end in miller with Jacoby Ford as a great kick returner they haven't had.

With that said, they're a mentally weak team that could fall apart after the way they just lost that game, but this isn't like the recent Raiders teams that are giant disaster week in and week out. Janikowski makes that kick, and this 7 page thread about how Oakland is one of the 5 worst teams in the NFL turns into a 7 page thread about how unlucky we are to have Oakland's pick the 1 year they're good.

 

[PatsFaninAZ]

The Cardinals tried everything in their power to lose that game, but they got fortunate to be playing the one team in the league that seems to work harder to lose.

Don't know how many watched the game, but the missed FG(s) were only part of the story. Late in the game, the Raiders were driving down by 4. They got lucky on 3d and goal with PI in the end zone. 1st and goal on the one.

Now, there's lots of stuff that can go wrong and turn 1st and goal on the one into a field goal or turnover. But the Raiders decide to go with delay go with the ultimate avoidable penalty -- delay of game.

 

[Off The Grid]

Re: OT: Thanks Raiders. Your draft pick is looking good

Contrary to popular belief in this thread, I actually think the Raiders have the potential to rattle off 7 or so wins this year. Gradkowski is a good starter who doesn't put his team in horrible spots like Campbell and Russell do. As bad as he looked last year, DHB is starting to play well and develop a chemistry with gradkowski, Murphy has put together two straight great weeks, and McFadden is living up to his talent. They also have a reliable tight end in miller with Jacoby Ford as a great kick returner they haven't had.

With that said, they're a mentally weak team that could fall apart after the way they just lost that game, but this isn't like the recent Raiders teams that are giant disaster week in and week out. Janikowski makes that kick, and this 7 page thread about how Oakland is one of the 5 worst teams in the NFL turns into a 7 page thread about how unlucky we are to have Oakland's pick the 1 year they're good.

The funny thing is that up until VERY recently, it seemed that 9 out 10 folks EXPECTED the Raiders to finish in the 10-15 range or so...

And while I still hold my previously stark minority view that that they are legitimate candidates for bringing us the #1 pick in the draft, the accession of Gradkowski is not welcome news. With that Front 7 and a good Field General like him running the show, they could, indeed, make a run at .500, Gods Forbid, though I think it less than likely.

 

[Calciumee]

Re: OT: Thanks Raiders. Your draft pick is looking good

Agree, let's go with Jake Locker or Luck.
Great pick.

Hil-ari-ous!

 

[aluminum seats]

Re: OT: Thanks Raiders. Your draft pick is looking good

Contrary to popular belief in this thread, I actually think the Raiders have the potential to rattle off 7 or so wins this year. Gradkowski is a good starter who doesn't put his team in horrible spots like Campbell and Russell do. As bad as he looked last year, DHB is starting to play well and develop a chemistry with gradkowski, Murphy has put together two straight great weeks, and McFadden is living up to his talent. They also have a reliable tight end in miller with Jacoby Ford as a great kick returner they haven't had.

With that said, they're a mentally weak team that could fall apart after the way they just lost that game, but this isn't like the recent Raiders teams that are giant disaster week in and week out. Janikowski makes that kick, and this 7 page thread about how Oakland is one of the 5 worst teams in the NFL turns into a 7 page thread about how unlucky we are to have Oakland's pick the 1 year they're good.

I agree they're improved, but not sure where the 6 more wins comes from....


Houston.....probably a loss
SD...loss
SF....god knows. give 'em a win
Denver...say they split w/denver, this one's a loss
Seattle...hell, another win
KC...KC might be somewhat for real...loss
Pitts....duh, loss
Miami....loss
SD...loss
Jax....no feel for Jax, call it a win
Denver...win (but two in a row? hmmm...)
Indy....loss
KC...loss

That gets them to five wins--I could see it being less rather than more.

 

[UofApatsfan]

Re: OT: Thanks Raiders. Your draft pick is looking good

I agree they're improved, but not sure where the 6 more wins comes from....


Houston.....probably a loss
SD...loss
SF....god knows. give 'em a win
Denver...say they split w/denver, this one's a loss
Seattle...hell, another win
KC...KC might be somewhat for real...loss
Pitts....duh, loss
Miami....loss
SD...loss
Jax....no feel for Jax, call it a win
Denver...win (but two in a row? hmmm...)
Indy....loss
KC...loss

That gets them to five wins--I could see it being less rather than more.

If I had to predict it I'd go -

vs. Houston - L
vs. San Diego - W (SD is bad enough this year where all road games are a struggle and they always suck out the gate)
@ San Fran - L
@ Denver - L
vs. Seattle - W (eventually Seattle is gonna fall apart)
vs. Kansas City - W/L
@ Pittsburgh - L
vs. Miami - W/L
@ San Diego - L
@ Jacksonville W (Jacksonville is one of the worst teams in the NFL)
vs. Denver - W (Denver, in the 2nd half of the season, 'nuff said)
vs. Indy - W (by this time Indy might be in rest starter mode and Oakland will be motivated to ruin New England's pick)
@ Kansas City - L

So yeah, I think they win one game @ home vs. KC/Mia and lose the other. That would get them 7 wins. Like I said tho, it could be a lot worse. They completely imploded after that tough loss to SD week 1 last year, that could happen again after that loss.

 

[Off The Grid]

Re: OT: Thanks Raiders. Your draft pick is looking good

If I had to predict it I'd go -

vs. Houston - L
vs. San Diego - W (SD is bad enough this year where all road games are a struggle and they always suck out the gate)
@ San Fran - L
@ Denver - L
vs. Seattle - W (eventually Seattle is gonna fall apart)
vs. Kansas City - W/L
@ Pittsburgh - L
vs. Miami - W/L
@ San Diego - L
@ Jacksonville W (Jacksonville is one of the worst teams in the NFL)
vs. Denver - W (Denver, in the 2nd half of the season, 'nuff said)
vs. Indy - W (by this time Indy might be in rest starter mode and Oakland will be motivated to ruin New England's pick)
@ Kansas City - L

So yeah, I think they win one game @ home vs. KC/Mia and lose the other. That would get them 7 wins. Like I said tho, it could be a lot worse. They completely imploded after that tough loss to SD week 1 last year, that could happen again after that loss.

Frankly, on a game by game basis...I see them picking off 1 or 2 home wins against Denver or Kansas City...but that is IT.

Yeah, I'm putting them down for 2-14 or 3-13.

May the Gods Grant It.

 

[IcyPatriot]

If I click this thread 13 times will they end up being 1-15???

 

[jsull87]

Re: OT: Thanks Raiders. Your draft pick is looking good

If I had to predict it I'd go -

vs. Houston - L
vs. San Diego - W (SD is bad enough this year where all road games are a struggle and they always suck out the gate)
@ San Fran - L
@ Denver - L
vs. Seattle - W (eventually Seattle is gonna fall apart)
vs. Kansas City - W/L
@ Pittsburgh - L
vs. Miami - W/L
@ San Diego - L
@ Jacksonville W (Jacksonville is one of the worst teams in the NFL)
vs. Denver - W (Denver, in the 2nd half of the season, 'nuff said)
vs. Indy - W (by this time Indy might be in rest starter mode and Oakland will be motivated to ruin New England's pick)
@ Kansas City - L

So yeah, I think they win one game @ home vs. KC/Mia and lose the other. That would get them 7 wins. Like I said tho, it could be a lot worse. They completely imploded after that tough loss to SD week 1 last year, that could happen again after that loss.

vs. Houston - L
vs. San Diego - L
@ San Fran - L
@ Denver - L
vs. Seattle - W
vs. Kansas City - W
@ Pittsburgh - L
vs. Miami - L
@ San Diego - L
@ Jacksonville W
vs. Denver - L
vs. Indy - L
@ Kansas City - L

I think the wins against seattle and jacksonville are 50/50 same with the losses vs kansas and 1 vs sandiago. I am giving them a 4/12 hopefully giving us a top 5

 

[UofApatsfan]

Re: OT: Thanks Raiders. Your draft pick is looking good

vs. Houston - L
vs. San Diego - L
@ San Fran - L
@ Denver - L
vs. Seattle - W
vs. Kansas City - W
@ Pittsburgh - L
vs. Miami - L
@ San Diego - L
@ Jacksonville W
vs. Denver - L
vs. Indy - L
@ Kansas City - L

I think the wins against seattle and jacksonville are 50/50 same with the losses vs kansas and 1 vs sandiago. I am giving them a 4/12 hopefully giving us a top 5

You're dreaming if you think they go 0-4 against Denver and San Diego. As bad as they've been recently, that hasn't happened. Hopefully you're right and they go 12-4, I just find all these top 5 pick predictions somewhat knee jerk when we all know the cynical posters on this site would be up in arms with a thread about how Oakland's pick is gonna suck had Janikowski's kick not flown wide.

 

[Off The Grid]

Re: OT: Thanks Raiders. Your draft pick is looking good

You're dreaming if you think they go 0-4 against Denver and San Diego. As bad as they've been recently, that hasn't happened. Hopefully you're right and they go 4-12, I just find all these top 5 pick predictions somewhat knee jerk when we all know the cynical posters on this site would be up in arms with a thread about how Oakland's pick is gonna suck had Janikowski's kick not flown wide.

Well, SOME of them are likely "knee jerk", considering how foolish most though I was, 1 month ago, for projecting a Top 5 Pick!!

 

[Bostonian1962]

What do you guys think their final record will be? I'm thinking like 4 and 12.

That's about right. I would think the very best they could do would be 6 and 10. A top 5 pick though, could happen.

 

[mosi]

Re: OT: Thanks Raiders. Your draft pick is looking good

Frankly, on a game by game basis...I see them picking off 1 or 2 home wins against Denver or Kansas City...but that is IT.

Yeah, I'm putting them down for 2-14 or 3-13.

May the Gods Grant It.

I agree with this. Can't see them winning more than 1-2 more games. The big question is how far will bill trade down?

 

[UofApatsfan]

Re: OT: Thanks Raiders. Your draft pick is looking good

Wow. They won 5 games last year with Jamarcus Russell starting most of the season, these 4 win predictions are ridiculous. There's no reason to think they'll be even worse than last season now that they have a serviceable QB and actually had a semi-decent draft under Al Davis.

 

[Off The Grid]

Wow.

They won 5 games last year with Jamarcus Russell starting most of the season, these 4 win predictions are ridiculous.

There's no reason to think they'll be even worse than last season now that they have a serviceable QB and actually had a semi-decent draft under Al Davis.

If you think ~ as you obviously do ~ that wins and losses are simply the result of the adding or subtracting of talent...then your expertise on matters of the ridiculous is unassailable.

 

[shmessy]

Folks, you DO realize that the Raiders are a white-knuckle thriller 16-14 home victory over the pathetic St Louis Rams away from being 0-3, right?