No PUP List for Welker!

[Criptonite]

Hopefully he shredded all his receipts. I'd hate to lose Wes for a 4-game suspension.

LOL. Yeah seriously, if he plays week 1, the NFL is going to launch an investigation immediately!

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

Fantastic news. Seems obvious he'll play before week 7 and they better make sure he's 100% ready.

Moreso than anything, I want him to be healthy for the full season (once he starts). Also, it's a testament to his discipline in rehabbing his leg. I'm not sure if there's many guys as mentally strong as Welker (recalling stories of when he'd be running too much,m throw up, and just keep on going).

 

[Johnny D]

The kinda news that just makes my day.

I wouldnt mind seeing him switched out during the first few games. I would expect some of the tackles to be aimed at his knee during the first few games and from rivals like the Jests.

 

[BradyBranch39]

The kinda news that just makes my day.

I wouldnt mind seeing him switched out during the first few games. I would expect some of the tackles to be aimed at his knee during the first few games and from rivals like the Jests.

Totally agree. I wouldn't use him in more than 60% of the snaps in the first 3 or 4 games. Our depth is outstanding and can make up the rest easily.

 

[CheekyDave]

The Olde Fashioned kid part of me reads this, and is joyful for the days of the moderately sized individual who exceeds his natural ability by sheer hard work and stubbornness

Welker, Chrebet,hell even Muggsy Bogues, Monty Towe, little dudes who really have no right to expect to be pros, made themselves pros.

Inspirational stuff, too bad you could not isolate that gene and reproduce it.

 

[QB12]

Hopefully he shredded all his receipts. I'd hate to lose Wes for a 4-game suspension.

Bad joke. Even worse timing.

 

[mgteich]

Have Games 2-6 been forfeited to the patriots?

This way, Welker will on the active roster when he is physically able to play and contribute more than whowever else might be active. The team doesn't need to wait until Game 7 to activate him.

Besides, you act as if we will suit up 7 receivers. Welker will be inactive instead of Price until he is ready to play.

Possibly be ready week one? If he's not ready week one, I don't see the point.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

This is terrible news! It means that the Patriots will use him before he is ready and he will get re-injured. And if this year is anything like last year the Patriots will overuse him to such an extent that every safety and LB will be gunning for his knee. I predict that he will not last the season.

PUP would have been far better since it would protect him from short-sighted coaching decisions and allow him to be 100% when he does come back force the staff (such as they are) to develop other options.

 

[mgteich]

So we have yet another poster that think that patriot coaches are bunch of idiots.

The team will use him when he is ready to play. If he gets injured again, so be it. The way to avoid that is for Welker not to play at all this season.

This is terrible news! It means that the Patriots will use him before he is ready and he will get re-injured. And if this year is anything like last year the Patriots will overuse him to such an extent that every safety and LB will be gunning for his knee. I predict that he will not last the season.

PUP would have been far better since it would protect him from short-sighted coaching decisions and allow him to be 100% when he does come back force the staff (such as they are) to develop other options.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

And if this year is anything like last year the Patriots will overuse him to such an extent that every safety and LB will be gunning for his knee.

 

[RayClay]

Have Games 2-6 been forfeited to the patriots?

This way, Welker will on the active roster when he is physically able to play and contribute more than whowever else might be active. The team doesn't need to wait until Game 7 to activate him.

Besides, you act as if we will suit up 7 receivers. Welker will be inactive instead of Price until he is ready to play.

If he can practice and cut like always by game two or three with no chance of reinjury, sure. If he's not close to 100% why bother? It's not inconceivable to reinjure a knee, Tate did it last year. We destroyed Cory Dillon for a one and done playoff in 2005.

I feel confident we can win games with Edelman, Moss and the rest. Every knee injury makes a productive career less likely.

 

[mgteich]

No one can ever expect "no chance of reinjury". But I agree that Welker need to be close to 100% to play. The question is whether this is likely before Game 7. The team apparently thinks so. Perhaps he won't end up being ready until Game 8 or 9. If so, the team will have lost its bet and should have someone else on the roster for the first six games.

If he can practice and cut like always by game two or three with no chance of reinjury, sure. If he's not close to 100% why bother? It's not inconceivable to reinjure a knee, Tate did it last year. We destroyed Cory Dillon for a one and done playoff in 2005.

I feel confident we can win games with Edelman, Moss and the rest. Every knee injury makes a productive career less likely.

 

[RayClay]

No one can ever expect "no chance of reinjury". But I agree that Welker need to be close to 100% to play. The question is whether this is likely before Game 7. The team apparently thinks so. Perhaps he won't end up being ready until Game 8 or 9. If so, the team will have lost its bet and should have someone else on the roster for the first six games.

The way he plays, he cuts like a maniac jitterbug. If he's hesitant at all, I'd rather see Edelman out there. I'm not sure if it's all knee injuries, or just the two ligament tear types, but full (for WR, RBs)recovery doesn't happen til the second year according to experts. That means, even if healthy, the elasticity and flexibility aren't there for a full year, year and a half.

If we get a Welker, that's cautiously cutting, we don't have what we know as Wes Welker. Obviously, the team is going to do what they're going to do, but i would be cautious for any player who depends on crisp, sharp cuts.

 

[Pats171]

Welker has been an inspiraitonal player throughout his career, and this recovery from a bad injury only adds to his legacy.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Here's link: BREAKING NEWS: 98.5 Reports Welker a GO for Training Camp!

At this point nothing about Welker's speedy recovery would surprise me...

Of course, it wouldn't surprise me if 98.5 took a gamble and made an announcement without credible sources just to boost their ratings.... it's a worthwhile gamble for them

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

So we have yet another poster that think that patriot coaches are bunch of idiots.

The team will use him when he is ready to play. If he gets injured again, so be it. The way to avoid that is for Welker not to play at all this season.

Excuse me for questioning the Holy Coaches but they have a bad track record on this matter. It is the whole macho football BS. Mayo was brought back too early and Tate also. And the unimaginative staff grossly overused Welker last season inviting injury. The game plan for opposing defenses was to injure Welker (they word it differently of course...stuff like "put a hard hit on him" but the intent was to injure) and he took some savage hits (of course he had a non-contact knee injury last year but he had taken a lot of punishment up to that point).

Welker would be safe from the coaches (and linebackers) on PUP and it would force the staff to develop other options of which there appear to be quite a few (Hernandez in particular).

 

[italian pat patriot]

if he is really ready for training camp and ready to play sibce week.1 it is simply awesome

this is a real special player; no doubt !

great !!!

 

[Rob0729]

The way he plays, he cuts like a maniac jitterbug. If he's hesitant at all, I'd rather see Edelman out there. I'm not sure if it's all knee injuries, or just the two ligament tear types, but full (for WR, RBs)recovery doesn't happen til the second year according to experts. That means, even if healthy, the elasticity and flexibility aren't there for a full year, year and a half.

If we get a Welker, that's cautiously cutting, we don't have what we know as Wes Welker. Obviously, the team is going to do what they're going to do, but i would be cautious for any player who depends on crisp, sharp cuts.

The experts do not say that a tear like that takes until the second year. That is the common saying. Medical facts (and they are five years old now) say that a WR or RB returning to the NFL can have a 100% recovery from seven months to two years. So there is a possibility of Welker being 100% come opening game vs. Cincinatti. Go do a Google search for medical journals on this if you don't believe me.

As for Welker reinjuring his ACL, it is near impossible for him to retear that ligament. The replacement ligament is stronger than his original ligament. Unless his doctor screwed up and didn't attach the ligaments correctly, there is little fear he will retear it if playing less than 100%.

What he does have to be concerned about is if he is favoring that leg because he doesn't feel confortable going full out on it is doing damage to the other knee. There have been cases of athletes tearing their other ACL because they favored the repaird one (See Jamal Anderson).

 

[RayClay]

The experts do not say that a tear like that takes until the second year. That is the common saying. Medical facts (and they are five years old now) say that a WR or RB returning to the NFL can have a 100% recovery from seven months to two years. So there is a possibility of Welker being 100% come opening game vs. Cincinatti. Go do a Google search for medical journals on this if you don't believe me.

As for Welker reinjuring his ACL, it is near impossible for him to retear that ligament. The replacement ligament is stronger than his original ligament. Unless his doctor screwed up and didn't attach the ligaments correctly, there is little fear he will retear it if playing less than 100%.

What he does have to be concerned about is if he is favoring that leg because he doesn't feel confortable going full out on it is doing damage to the other knee. There have been cases of athletes tearing their other ACL because they favored the repaird one (See Jamal Anderson).

Sports doctors who say 1 year recovery also say year two before RB and WR regain full flexibility.

That's a fact. I'm not sure if that applies two single tears, though.

It also doesn't apply to O Linemen or other plodders.

 

[BelichickFan]

This is terrible news! It means that the Patriots will use him before he is ready and he will get re-injured.

If you want to be taken seriously you won't make definitive statements like "he will get re-injured". That's ridiculous. If you must, say that it puts him at a higher chance to be re-injured - though I disagree with that at least it's reasonable to say unlike what you did say which is wholly unreasonable. Coming back early from this is very different from what Mayo came back from as this isn't weakness in a ligament but a new ligament which, itself, is structurally fine.