Tom Brady talk around the media

[PatsFanSince74]

What have I said that is not based in reality? Please don't respond with the "Gisele wears the pants" comment which I have already noted several times was not meant to be taken as an absolute gospel statement.

Why do so many people consider it so impossible to suggest that maybe Brady might just want to be closer to his family, his home, his son he had with Bridget, and that he and Gisele might decide it is best for the 3 of them that he move out west? Why is that scenario just not even remotely in the bounds of reality to some people in here?

Multiple people have told me I don't have the first clue what Brady is thinking. And that's true, I don't. But ya know what? Neither do you! Everyone is saying "he wants to stay with Belichick! He wants to stay with Kraft!" when fact is the people who are saying that don't have the first clue whatsoever if those are his priorities.

Listen, you're backtracking fast and I kind of respect that. But, saying that a woman "wears the pants" doesn't imply the "equality" that your later posts are trying to argue but rather something else. You know it. I know it. Everyone who has responded intelligently to you knows it. Give it up.

 

[Wolfpack]

Why don't you just say, "I misspoke when I used that expression. It was an ignorant, stupid, sexist, dumbass thing to say and what I meant to say was..."

I clearly indicated the statement was meant to be joking, was not meant to be taken so literally and I retracted it. Now maybe I didn't retract it in the way you think I should have, but that's your problem. Get a freakin' sense of humor - and a clue while you're at it.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

I clearly indicated the statement was meant to be joking, was not meant to be taken so literally and I retracted it. Now maybe I didn't retract it in the way you think I should have, but that's your problem. Get a freakin' sense of humor - and a clue while you're at it.

No, you didn't retract it. You tried to dance around it and have it both ways.

My sense of humor is well intact. That expression has a lot of baggage and I actually give you credit for being smart enough to have known it when you first used it. Now, you're just trying to pretend something else.

 

[Wolfpack]

Listen, you're backtracking fast and I kind of respect that. But, saying that a woman "wears the pants" doesn't imply the "equality" that your later posts are trying to argue but rather something else. You know it. I know it. Everyone who has responded intelligently to you knows it. Give it up.

Dude, get a life. I jokingly remarked that the woman "wears the pants" in the family. I think every single married guy has said or heard that joke at one point or another. Just the other day I was introducing my friend and his wife to another friend of mine, and I called her "his better half." I guess that makes me ignorant, sexist, etc, etc, huh?

The fact that you are continually harping on that one backhanded remark shows that the rest of your position is pretty weak and you aren't capable of debating the points intelligently.

 

[Wolfpack]

No, you didn't retract it. You tried to dance around it and have it both ways.

Um, I said it was a "stupid figure of speech that I threw out there" and that "I never intended my 'Gisele wear the pants' comment to be taken as the gospel truth."

If that isn't a retraction then I don't know what is.

My sense of humor is well intact. That expression has a lot of baggage and I actually give you credit for being smart enough to have known it when you first used it. Now, you're just trying to pretend something else.

Yeah, joking that the wife "wears the pants in the family" is really nothing but an extreme slap in the face of whatever guy she is married to.

I can just see you at a function with friends and family: "What? You just said my wife wears the pants in the family?!? Them's fighting words where I come from, you disgusting @^#%*^!"

 

[Kontradiction]

No, in one statement that was not even remotely meant to be taken seriously, I implied the latter.

If it wasn't meant to be taken seriously, you should have made sure that you let people know that it was tongue in cheek. IMO, you got called out for making a terrible assertion and are now backtracking. It' unbelievably obvious.

Last I checked, there were other teams in California than Oakland. And just about every team in the NFL is closer to LA than Boston.

So you think that Brady is more likely to accept a big contract to play for Mike Singletary than he is to accept a big contract to finish what he started with the best coach in the league and an owner who he is very fond of?

I am disappointed in you to resort to such an absurd question. I guess people aren't allowed to express unpopular opinions in the football forum without "proof".

Yeah, how dare I ask you to provide proof to back up your assertions. So basically, you are just talking out of your ass here and throwing anything against the wall you can in hopes that it will stick? Gotcha.

:bricks:

 

[Wolfpack]

If it wasn't meant to be taken seriously, you should have made sure that you let people know that it was tongue in cheek.

You're absolutely right. I should have said something like "it was a stupid figure of speech that I threw out there" and that "I never intended my 'Gisele wear the pants' comment to be taken as the gospel truth."

Oh wait, that's exactly what I said in post 48.

IMO, you got called out for making a terrible assertion and are now backtracking. It' unbelievably obvious.

In my opinion I made a statement that was obviously not meant to be taken so seriously. But since it wasn't as obvious to other people as it was to me, I had to formally clarify that the statement was not meant to be taken seriously. But even that formal clarification wasn't enough. So since people can't logically debate the other points I am making, they just keep going back to the "wears the pants" comment time and time again.

So you think that Brady is more likely to accept a big contract to play for Mike Singletary than he is to accept a big contract to finish what he started with the best coach in the league and an owner who he is very fond of?

Please tell me where I said or in any way implied that may be the case.

Yeah, how dare I ask you to provide proof to back up your assertions. So basically, you are just talking out of your ass here and throwing anything against the wall you can in hopes that it will stick? Gotcha.

I am stating an opinion of what I think could possibly happen in the future. To ask for "proof" of my opinion of something that might happen in the future is absurd.

Can you prove to me that Brady wants to stay in New England past 2011? What's that? No, you can't? Well then I guess you are just talking out of your ass here and throwing anything against the wall you can in hopes that it will stick. Got'cha.

 

[Wolfpack]

HEAR YE HEAR YE!!!!!!!!!

Let me officially and formally announce that I am officially and formally retracting the statement I made earlier that Gisele "wears the pants" in her relationship with Tom. I don't see how anyone could possibly have accepted that statement as the literal truth, but apparently there were those who did.

The statement was meant to be spoken jokingly and tongue-in-cheek. It was not meant to imply any real disparity in the relationship between Tom Brady and Gisele. Furthermore, I apologize to all men everywhere because my joke was clearly the most sexist, racist, vile and hateful thing I have ever uttered in all my life. From this moment forward, anyone who implies the woman "wears the pants" in any relationship is a despicable creature not worthy of the very flesh they inhabit.



OK now that we've got that out of the way, y'all are invited to respond respectfully and without ad hominem to any of my other statements in this thread. Because other than the statement retracted above, I stand by every single one I made.

 

[Kontradiction]

You're absolutely right. I should have said something like "it was a stupid figure of speech that I threw out there" and that "I never intended my 'Gisele wear the pants' comment to be taken as the gospel truth."

Oh wait, that's exactly what I said in post 48.

Which only occured after you had been grinded into the concrete for making such a ridiculous statement that sure didn't seem to be too tongue-in-cheek. But please, continue to try to cover your tracks. It's good fun to watch.

In my opinion I made a statement that was obviously not meant to be taken so seriously. But since it wasn't as obvious to other people as it was to me, I had to formally clarify that the statement was not meant to be taken seriously. But even that formal clarification wasn't enough. So since people can't logically debate the other points I am making, they just keep going back to the "wears the pants" comment time and time again.

LMAO. What points have you made here, Wolfpack? I've asked you a couple of times to furnish evidence of why you believe the Gisele (who has spent more time in New York than anywhere else in recent years) seriously wants Brady to play in California. You couldn't do that because you've been clearly talking out of your ass, to put it in the nicest way possible.

Please tell me where I said or in any way implied that may be the case. I am stating an opinion of what I think could possibly happen in the future. To ask for "proof" of my opinion of something that might happen in the future is absurd.

You're really getting desperate now, aren't you. You can have a negative opinion all you want. I'm a huge proponent of a negative opinion about the team when it's warranted. However, in order for an opinion to make any sense (as opposed to, say, looking like you're doing nothing but having a negative opinion just for the sake of having one), there should be some sort of factual evidence behind it. Sorry, Wolfpack, but there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Brady's wife wants him to play in California. If there had been, I would be giving you a pass right now. But there isn't. So why don't you just do yourself a favor and duck out of this thread before you make yourself look any worse than you already have.

Can you prove to me that Brady wants to stay in New England past 2011? What's that? No, you can't? Well then I guess you are just talking out of your ass here and throwing anything against the wall you can in hopes that it will stick. Got'cha.

There seems to be more factual evidence that agrees with me than agrees with you. For one, Brady has spent his entire career here and has won multiple Super Bowl championships with a coach and an owner who he has, on multiple occasions, expressed affection for (please show me where he's expressed any sort of affection or has said anything positive about Al Davis, Tom Cable, or Mike Singletary). For another, Brady has no publicly come out and stated that he has no interest in entertaining another contract offer from the Patriots.

You seem to be clutching onto the fact that they own a house in California and that Gisele lives in that house, so that means that he's very likely to want to play out there. They also own a house in New York and have spent more time in that city than they have in California for the past couple of years. Basically, your logic states that he should also entertain offers from New York team as well.

Now, once again, please show some sort of factual evidence that Gisele wants Brady to play in California. If you can't do that, then show me some sort of factual evidence that Brady himself wants to play in California. If you can't do that either, then your more than welcome to leave the thread. You've stated your opinion and it's known.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Which only occured after you had been grinded into the concrete for making such a ridiculous statement that sure didn't seem to be too tongue-in-cheek. But please, continue to try to cover your tracks. It's good fun to watch.



LMAO. What points have you made here, Wolfpack? I've asked you a couple of times to furnish evidence of why you believe the Gisele (who has spent more time in New York than anywhere else in recent years) seriously wants Brady to play in California. You couldn't do that because you've been clearly talking out of your ass, to put it in the nicest way possible.



You're really getting desperate now, aren't you. You can have a negative opinion all you want. I'm a huge proponent of a negative opinion about the team when it's warranted. However, in order for an opinion to make any sense (as opposed to, say, looking like you're doing nothing but having a negative opinion just for the sake of having one), there should be some sort of factual evidence behind it. Sorry, Wolfpack, but there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Brady's wife wants him to play in California. If there had been, I would be giving you a pass right now. But there isn't. So why don't you just do yourself a favor and duck out of this thread before you make yourself look any worse than you already have.



There seems to be more factual evidence that agrees with me than agrees with you. For one, Brady has spent his entire career here and has won multiple Super Bowl championships with a coach and an owner who he has, on multiple occasions, expressed affection for (please show me where he's expressed any sort of affection or has said anything positive about Al Davis, Tom Cable, or Mike Singletary). For another, Brady has no publicly come out and stated that he has no interest in entertaining another contract offer from the Patriots.

You seem to be clutching onto the fact that they own a house in California and that Gisele lives in that house, so that means that he's very likely to want to play out there. They also own a house in New York and have spent more time in that city than they have in California for the past couple of years. Basically, your logic states that he should also entertain offers from New York team as well.

Now, once again, please show some sort of factual evidence that Gisele wants Brady to play in California. If you can't do that, then show me some sort of factual evidence that Brady himself wants to play in California. If you can't do that either, then your more than welcome to leave the thread. You've stated your opinion and it's known.

Kontra. He was exposed. On to the next phony. Have a good week.

 

[Snake Eyes]

There seems to be more factual evidence that agrees with me than agrees with you. For one, Brady has spent his entire career here and has won multiple Super Bowl championships with a coach and an owner who he has, on multiple occasions, expressed affection for (please show me where he's expressed any sort of affection or has said anything positive about Al Davis, Tom Cable, or Mike Singletary). For another, Brady has no publicly come out and stated that he has no interest in entertaining another contract offer from the Patriots.

You seem to be clutching onto the fact that they own a house in California and that Gisele lives in that house, so that means that he's very likely to want to play out there. They also own a house in New York and have spent more time in that city than they have in California for the past couple of years. Basically, your logic states that he should also entertain offers from New York team as well.

Now, once again, please show some sort of factual evidence that Gisele wants Brady to play in California. If you can't do that, then show me some sort of factual evidence that Brady himself wants to play in California. If you can't do that either, then your more than welcome to leave the thread. You've stated your opinion and it's known.

For starters, Brady's older son lives in LA and that probably won't change unless Bridget Moynahan decides to move, which gives Brady a very substantial reason to live in LA.

The reality is that no one knows what Brady is going to do except him, it's completely possible that he decides to finish out his career on the West Coast. He might really like the Patriots and prefer them if all things were equal but the fact that living in Boston takes him away from his son in LA might weigh upon him heavily.

Just because you REALLY REALLY want him to play here until he's older than Favre is right now doesn't mean it's going to happen, it might, it might not, all we can do is sit back and watch.

 

[Deus Irae]

Two sides.... both speculating about speculation..... personal attacks because someone claimed Gisele was wearing the pants rather than Brady (as if that bloody haircut he was seen with doesn't at least raise the question ).... a foray into the politics of marriage ... claims of "no evidence" when 20 million dollars worth of "evidence" is (was?) under construction.... ironies heaped upon ironies....



Yes, this thread is so bad that it's good. This is a Toxic Avenger/Death Race 2000 sort of thread.

 

[BradyManny]

For the record, there's no saying that Bridget doesn't land some work for the first time in several years, and that work takes her to New York - or heck, even Boston. Brady could move out to LA and then find that the mother of his first child is moving back to the East Coast. I'm pretty sure Brady is very aware of this fact.

 

[Kontradiction]

Two sides.... both speculating about speculation..... personal attacks because someone claimed Gisele was wearing the pants rather than Brady (as if that bloody haircut he was seen with doesn't at least raise the question ).... a foray into the politics of marriage ... claims of "no evidence" when 20 million dollars worth of "evidence" is (was?) under construction.... ironies heaped upon ironies....



Yes, this thread is so bad that it's good. This is a Toxic Avenger/Death Race 2000 sort of thread.

Sorry, Deus, but until Brady comes out publicly and states that he has no interest in renewing his contract with the Patriots or until he signs with another team, all signs point to Brady being back with us. But you are right about this thread. It is a sewage runoff.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I'm not worth 8-9 figures like Tom Brady but I own properties that I live in in 3 different states. One state has a warmer winter climate than my primary residence has. People may work one place part of the year and spend another part of the year someplace else. People with means often choose to spend different parts of the year in different places. And with the Brady Bunch it's affordable to charter a private jet to make geting from one place to the other very easy. Me, I'm envious.

Folks are reading too much into the varied domicile choices of the Bunch. Understandable as contract resolution has slowed to a glacial pace because of unknown CBA implications. Me, I'd speculate that were Brady motivated to leave NE, he'd quietly let the Kraft's know that he intended to explore FA and that they should forget about a contract extention.

 

[Kontradiction]

Me, I'd speculate that were Brady motivated to leave NE, he'd quietly let the Kraft's know that he intended to explore FA and that they should forget about a contract extention.

Exactly. As for everything else you wrote, I pretty much agree as well. People act as if Brady is going to have to drive back and forth several times a year from Boston to L.A. but the fact of the matter is that he has the means to get from Boston to L.A. in only a few hours. That awful article written last week (the one in which roughly 3/4's of Bob Kraft's comments were cut out for apparenly no other reason than just to make the article more juicy) combined with the team's stance that they don't approach the media with these matters has fueled this firestorm. The fact of the matter is that every offseason, there is an article or speculation about this in the media. Last year, it was Brady's injury and how long he plans to continue playing.

Brady's won three Super Bowls here with a coach and ownership he has a ton of respect for and a team that is obviously attempting to go out and assemble an offense with numerous weapons around him. Kraft has come out and stated his admiration for Brady as well as a massive willingness to talk about a new contract in the future (nevermind the uncertain CBA headed into 2011 or the fact that Brady has one more year left on his current contract, I guess). All signs are pointing to Brady staying put... unless anybody would like to explain to me why Brady would rather go out and play in Oakland and San Francisco and actually bring up something other than the fact that California is one of three different places in the continental U.S. where the Brady's own a home.

 

[mgteich]

You all act as if there is no important difference between being in the same area as your family (or a 2 hour or so ride) and being accross the country from your family. You also seem to think that a player shouldn't care where he lives.

The reality is that Brady's family and children live on the West Coast, within a short plan ride after a game from anywhere from Dallas west. Also, there is no reason to believe that Brady prefers living in warm sunny Boston.

No one knows if a deal will be struck to keep Brady here for another 5-6 years, or even whether he will play that long. But this is an open issue. it would take a lot to keep Brady here past 2011.

 

[Kontradiction]

You all act as if there is no important difference between being in the same area as your family (or a 2 hour or so ride) and being accross the country from your family. You also seem to think that a player shouldn't care where he lives.

The reality is that Brady's family and children live on the West Coast, within a short plan ride after a game from anywhere from Dallas west. Also, there is no reason to believe that Brady prefers living in warm sunny Boston.

No one knows if a deal will be struck to keep Brady here for another 5-6 years, or even whether he will play that long. But this is an open issue. it would take a lot to keep Brady here past 2011.

This doesn't really sway me one way or another. There are a ton of athletes that have their families living in other cities during the season. As for your timetable on what would be a preferable commute to see your family, you are aware that Brady has the means to get from east coast to west coast in the matter of a few hours, right? For instance, a concorde jet can get from New York to California in under three hours.

To me, I would think it much more likely that Brady accepts a mega contract to play for a team with a coach like Belichick and an owner like Kraft on a perennial contender instead of going to Oakland (who would have to clear a lot of roster space to even sign Brady to a deal he would want) and playing for a perennial dump of a team with a kook as an owner or San Francisco.

 

[Kontradiction]

Some more food for thought, then I'm most likely going to leave this alone afterward. Albeit, this quote is a little older, but it still has some relevance. From January 25, 2010...

”We’re all overpaid,” Brady said. ”We have the greatest job in the world, and I have the greatest job in the world. I love being here. I love Boston, I love the city, I love the community. This is where home is.”

Would Brady, who is now an assistant player rep, like to have the matter settled, before the season starts?

”Well, I’m under contract. I signed a 6-year contract five years ago. There’s a lot of players that end up being in my situation,” he said. ”There’s a lot of uncertainty in the league. Being a player rep, I realize all the different issues that we’re facing. It’s a real unique time in our league. As a team player, I don’t sit here and say, ‘What about me, what about me?’ I’m under contract. I’m going to go out there and play, and play my butt off.”

BostonHerald.com - Blogs: Rap Sheet Blog Archive Tom Brady talks Pats, contract, Super Bowl at charity event

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Some more food for thought, then I'm most likely going to leave this alone afterward. Albeit, this quote is a little older, but it still has some relevance. From January 25, 2010...



BostonHerald.com - Blogs: Rap Sheet Blog Archive Tom Brady talks Pats, contract, Super Bowl at charity event

Please, citing actual factual information has no business in this thread.

This thread exists to prattle wild speculation and to project our fears, worries and wishfull thinking.