Tom Brady joking with Kobe Byrant following Celtics loss

[Patjew]

idk. Isn't Brady from Cali? Might be a laker fan too. (Or warriors)

He looks like a Clippers fan to me.

 

[JFK]

He looks like a Clippers fan to me.

lmao!!!!!!!!

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Ha, take that Brady AKA HOLLYWOOD TRAITOR. Not laughing now are we?

Told you we should've drafted Tebow

 

[aluminum seats]

Would it be better knowing that he grew up in California and was dropped in NE by the luck of the draft? At which point I guess to some, if not most, he has to lose all former allegiances he had to all other professional sports teams. :bricks:

So do the same rules that apply to your fandom, apply to his? Meaning, if you moved to Atlanta and rooted for the Celtics to beat the Hawks, how would that sit with you? Or should you fall in line with the rest of the town and root for the Hawks? Even though you grew up rooting for the Celtics – Or does his “celebrity” trump that argument.

I just think this whole thing is blown WAY out of proportion. At some point everyone needs to realize that Brady is the Quarterback of OUR team, and that's it. Nothing more. Despite what everyone wants, outside of the game of Football, he's just another fan……..of the teams HE chooses to root for.

Do the same rules apply to my fandom? Obviously not. I'm in NY now and root for Boston teams, and nobody cares. See, I'm not the QB of the NY Jets. It's a ridiculous comparison.

Tom Brady can be a fan of whoever he wants. But I don't think actively rooting against HIS fans is cool. He wears the Yankees cap.....roots for the Lakers.....oh, and when he was younger he visited Montreal and became a huge Canadians fan, I assume.

 

[BSR]

Do the same rules apply to my fandom? Obviously not. I'm in NY now and root for Boston teams, and nobody cares. See, I'm not the QB of the NY Jets. It's a ridiculous comparison.

Tom Brady can be a fan of whoever he wants. But I don't think actively rooting against HIS fans is cool. He wears the Yankees cap.....roots for the Lakers.....oh, and when he was younger he visited Montreal and became a huge Canadians fan, I assume.

If the Patriots completed the perfect season, Brady could have asked me to become a Yankees fan and I would have been cool with it. Brady has earned the right to cheer for whomever he pleases. The fact is however that he doesn't flaunt it. Chatting it up with Kobe after a game is not flaunting it.

 

[mgteich]

Football is a business. There is no reason to expect that Brady should be a Celtics fans or a Bruins fan or a Red Sox fan.

 

[ScottieC]

Do the same rules apply to my fandom? Obviously not. I'm in NY now and root for Boston teams, and nobody cares. See, I'm not the QB of the NY Jets. It's a ridiculous comparison.

Tom Brady can be a fan of whoever he wants. But I don't think actively rooting against HIS fans is cool. He wears the Yankees cap.....roots for the Lakers.....oh, and when he was younger he visited Montreal and became a huge Canadians fan, I assume.

Ok, So his celebrity does in fact come into play in your scenario. His personal allegiances should be forgotten and he should root for the home team.....oh wait, he is rooting for the home team.

I don't think it's a ridiculous comparison, but I understand why you do.

And really, is he rooting against his fans? I mean, come on. At some point you have to let Brady's personal life go and allow him to be what he is - The greatest QB of all time that plays for our football team. That is enough for me, clearly not enough for some.

 

[aluminum seats]

Ok, So his celebrity does in fact come into play in your scenario. His personal allegiances should be forgotten and he should root for the home team.....oh wait, he is rooting for the home team.

I don't think it's a ridiculous comparison, but I understand why you do.

And really, is he rooting against his fans? I mean, come on. At some point you have to let Brady's personal life go and allow him to be what he is - The greatest QB of all time that plays for our football team. That is enough for me, clearly not enough for some.

You're refuting points that I haven't made, which is annoying.

I didn't say his "personal allegiances" should be forgotten, he can root for whoever he likes (although the Lakers/Yankees cap seems a little strange, but whatever). What I AM saying is that in the interests of fandom, the QB of the local team should try and refrain from hugging public enemy #1 of the local basketball team after a loss in the championship series.

Yes, Brady's been a great QB for the Patriots. But it's disinegenous to act like we don't care about the off-the-field actions of the players on the team we follow. Is this a small thing? Of course--Brady's not out there raping women like the Pittsburgh QB (or Bryant, for that matter, but that's another discussion.) But in the spirit of being part of the Boston community while he's here, how about laying off the post-loss embraces. Just sayin'.

 

[BSR]

But it's disinegenous to act like we don't care about the off-the-field actions of the players on the team we follow. Is this a small thing? Of course--Brady's not out there raping women like the Pittsburgh QB (or Bryant, for that matter, but that's another discussion.) But in the spirit of being part of the Boston community while he's here, how about laying off the post-loss embraces. Just sayin'.

Actually some of us don't really care one way or another. Guess what? Your favorite athlete might not be like you. Maybe they like the Lakers while you like the Celtics, maybe they're a democrat while you are a republican, maybe they like cats while you like dogs. Who friggin cares. They aren't your friends and never will be. There is no reason to become emotionally invested in their off the field activities.

 

[Low_Rider]

By the way, I'm a pretty involved Celtic fan. And I have no problem with this. Just two athletes who dominate their sports chatting.

Well.. I think what Tom are doing now is not as dominating as when we won the spygate SB. I mean the guy always had a great team behind him. Even the league helped him and the team to win some more games and awards than they should've won.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Well.. I think what Tom are doing now is not as dominating as when we won the spygate SB. I mean the guy always had a great team behind him. Even the league helped him and the team to win some more games and awards than they should've won.

What we have here is a

 

[dhamz]

Yes, Brady's been a great QB for the Patriots. But it's disinegenous to act like we don't care about the off-the-field actions of the players on the team we follow.

Sorry, I see nothing disngenuos about the fact that I could care less that he joked around with Kobe. I could care less that he probably rooted for the Lakers or that he likes the Yankees or that he once said on WEEI that if he had to choose an athlete's jersey for his son to wear he'd probably go with Jeter. He also plays golf in the off season with Peyton Manning who Pats fans hate more than anyone and is known to be friends with Jason Taylor a career long Dolphin and current Jet. The teams he likes or the friends he has are none of my business as a fan unless perhaps he is breaking laws or doing something else that is unethical with them.

Now some of the passes he made in the 2nd half at Miami, those genuinely bothered me a lot.

 

[TBradyOwnsYou]

Tom joking around with Kobe: A 1 on a scale of 10
Tom raping around with Kobe: A 20 on a scale of 10

It could be worse!

 

[aluminum seats]

Actually some of us don't really care one way or another. Guess what? Your favorite athlete might not be like you. Maybe they like the Lakers while you like the Celtics, maybe they're a democrat while you are a republican, maybe they like cats while you like dogs. Who friggin cares. They aren't your friends and never will be. There is no reason to become emotionally invested in their off the field activities.

If that's the way you feel--not caring at all about off-the-field behavior--then that's absolutely fair. And certainly any objective observer realizes players are as flawed as anyone, etc. But if a player on my team is a dog fighting, woman abusing, a-hole, I won't enjoy having him on my team as much. That's just me.

 

[aluminum seats]

Sorry, I see nothing disngenuos about the fact that I could care less that he joked around with Kobe. I could care less that he probably rooted for the Lakers or that he likes the Yankees or that he once said on WEEI that if he had to choose an athlete's jersey for his son to wear he'd probably go with Jeter. He also plays golf in the off season with Peyton Manning who Pats fans hate more than anyone and is known to be friends with Jason Taylor a career long Dolphin and current Jet. The teams he likes or the friends he has are none of my business as a fan unless perhaps he is breaking laws or doing something else that is unethical with them.

Now some of the passes he made in the 2nd half at Miami, those genuinely bothered me a lot.

Except that's not what I said. I said it's disingenuous to act like we don't care about off-the-field behavior. Now, the previous poster said he didn't care at all--and if that's honest, then fine--assuming it extends to all behavior.

To clarify again, playing golf in the off-season, rooting for different teams, being friends with other players, all is fine. This is about the context of Brady loving on Bryant after his team beat the Celtics in a crucial championship game. Lame.

 

[NEGoldenAge]

Except that's not what I said. I said it's disingenuous to act like we don't care about off-the-field behavior. Now, the previous poster said he didn't care at all--and if that's honest, then fine--assuming it extends to all behavior.

To clarify again, playing golf in the off-season, rooting for different teams, being friends with other players, all is fine. This is about the context of Brady loving on Bryant after his team beat the Celtics in a crucial championship game. Lame.

Dood, you're too sensitive if this crap bothers you. Lighten up, or post this crap on a board for people with similar disorders.

 

[Low_Rider]

@PatsWickedPissah
Can't take criticism eh?

 

[aluminum seats]

Dood, you're too sensitive if this crap bothers you. Lighten up, or post this crap on a board for people with similar disorders.

Sorry, I'm enjoying the conversation, "Dood." Don't get your panties in a bunch.

 

[BSR]

If that's the way you feel--not caring at all about off-the-field behavior--then that's absolutely fair. And certainly any objective observer realizes players are as flawed as anyone, etc. But if a player on my team is a dog fighting, woman abusing, a-hole, I won't enjoy having him on my team as much. That's just me.

Do you remember your football team from high school? I bet half of them were flaming a-holes just like those on mine were. That means its probably a 50/50 chance or better that your favorite football player is a flaming a-hole as well. I don't pretend that my favorite athletes are nice guys. In fact I prefer they don't be. Nice guys don't elbow people at the bottom of piles like Vrable. Nice guys don't punch people in the nuts like Mankins. You want hyper aggressive tough guys on your team. With that you get some bad guys as well. I've come to terms with that.

 

[NEGoldenAge]

Sorry, I'm enjoying the conversation, "Dood." Don't get your panties in a bunch.

Well, some of us get annoyed by the oversensitive PC peeps, since we have to deal with it day in, day out. If you're going to play the part of the oversensitivie PC person, don't EVER accuse someone else of having their panties in a bunch.... lest you seek the title of top hypocrite. If you need further explanation of this concept, try drinking a few gallons of anti-freeze. That should fix the problem almost immediately.