Brandon Marshall (ideal fit in NE)

[Big Bucks]

Jackson has a couple of DUIs. Marshall has multiple occassions of abuse against women. Current testimony has the bullet that killed Darrent Williams actually being meant for Marshall and his cousin. Big difference between the two players.

Where none have led to a prosecution.

Women make stuff up, Women can be *****s, the fact is he has never been found guilty on any charge of mistreating a women.

The reason he got a ban was because of the association to a crime, and not being guillty of the crime. IMO thats *********, look at the ***** that put a cap in McNair as an example of how women are can be.

Fact, he has been found guilty of DUI's and traffic offences.

He has also done NFL programmes as part of his reduction of ban from 3 down to 1. IMO Marshall has been treated harshly by the media considering.

 

[crowell33]

It's not just character issues: it's the fact that McDaniels didn't think he was worth the trouble. If there's a coach in the NFL whose perspective on this stuff is aligned with Belichick's, it's McDaniels. So if McD says that he's not worth the trouble, then I'd expect Belichick to conclude the same.

And Marshall had plenty of off-field issues when Shanahan was coach, such as the mysterious hand injury that caused him to miss a bunch of time, etc. etc.

Yes. Yes. and yes. I completely agree. We don't need any more of these guys.

 

[20HindSight20]

if the pats did not trade for anquan boldin, who would have cost the pats a 2th round pick and only 7 million a year. why would they give up a #1 and 9 or 10 million a year for a guy with off and on field baggage.


i think he ends up with the Seahawks. they will trade the 14th pick for him.


that could be bad for the pats. danver could take Dan Williams, and Jared Odrick, in the first round. and Arrelious Benn, or Jerry Hughes, in the 2th round.

I would imagine it's because Marshall is a head and shoulders way better receiver and is 25 years old compared to the 30 years old that Boldin is. So not quite sure why you're making the Boldin comparison to begin with. Boldin would be a very good number 2. Marshall would be a top flight number 1.

 

[muzz]

They couldn't keep AD from being a jackass(and he's getting good $), what makes ya think they can control a hothead like Marshall?
They don't have Willie, Vrabel, Harrison,or Bruschi to keep folks in line anymore, or at least it seems like more BS than there used to be......

 

[Rob0729]

Where none have led to a prosecution.

Women make stuff up, Women can be *****s, the fact is he has never been found guilty on any charge of mistreating a women.

The reason he got a ban was because of the association to a crime, and not being guillty of the crime. IMO thats *********, look at the ***** that put a cap in McNair as an example of how women are can be.

Fact, he has been found guilty of DUI's and traffic offences.

He has also done NFL programmes as part of his reduction of ban from 3 down to 1. IMO Marshall has been treated harshly by the media considering.

Wow! This post is so ignorant I don't even know how to respond. Anyone who knows anything about domestic violence only a very small percentage of the cases of domestic violence ever get prosecuted and of the one that do an even smaller amount lead to conviction. It doesn't mean domesitc violence is a myth like the Loch Ness Monster. Look at OJ, according to the courts he never beat his wife (and never was prosecuted of it) nor did he kill her.

By all accounts Marshall is a woman beater and a hang around with the wrong element. He is a scumbag even if the law hasn't caught up to him. Yes, the media has been harsh on a guy who frequently abuses women Boo! Fing! Whoo! If he wasn't a professional athlete, he'd probably be in jail or dead right now. Consider himself lucky.

 

[Buchanty]

I really don't think BM is under consideration for the Pats. The combination of #1 draft pick, big contract and behavior/attitude problems is more than he's worth. I do think it more likely BB looks for a veteran like Mason (someone we tried to before) to help Tate and Edelman along, and try for pot luck in the draft.

The money issue is perhaps the largest as Tom's contract isn't going to be small (not the largest by any means but significant), Wilfork is very high and next year I hope we look to keeping Mankins. Spreading the wealth is still the Patriot way.

Anyone else surprised by the size of TBC's deal (must be a good agent)?

 

[Big Bucks]

Wow! This post is so ignorant I don't even know how to respond. Anyone who knows anything about domestic violence only a very small percentage of the cases of domestic violence ever get prosecuted and of the one that do an even smaller amount lead to conviction. It doesn't mean domesitc violence is a myth like the Loch Ness Monster. Look at OJ, according to the courts he never beat his wife (and never was prosecuted of it) nor did he kill her.

By all accounts Marshall is a woman beater and a hang around with the wrong element. He is a scumbag even if the law hasn't caught up to him. Yes, the media has been harsh on a guy who frequently abuses women Boo! Fing! Whoo! If he wasn't a professional athlete, he'd probably be in jail or dead right now. Consider himself lucky.

I didn't say it was a myth, I didn't say it never happen, I didn't say Marshall hadn't, I said a court of law hasn't found him guilty, unlike you who has made up your mind on hearsay, gossip or popular belief that theres no smoke without fire. Just because some do, does not mean everyone does, and having been in the situation of accusation I can tell you it does happen.

 

[VOODOOZF]

I feel like if we can address a huge hole on offense with someone like Marshall, it would allow us to focus more on one side of the ball in the draft (defense). Obviously we could use another WR, and maybe some depth at OL, but those can be addressed in middle rounds. Getting someone like Marshall would be outstanding for this offense.

Obviously he has character concerns, but don't we have faith in BB and TB? Don't you think they could help him keep his head straight?

Maybe I'm just being overly optimistic, but I really want Marshall here. He would seamlessly fit right into our offense.

What say you? What do you think the chances are? Just thoughts in general...

There is no way the Patriots are going to give up a #1 and a #3 for a wr with the baggage that Marshall brings and then have to pay him the $ that he is going to want.

Why would they give up a 1 + 3 for Marshall when they could have had Anquan Boldin for nothing, but a 3rd round draft choice?

While I think that Marshall is a top flight talent. He is the type of guy that rips locker rooms apart. He is more T.Owens than Randy Moss. Marshall is exactly the type of player that the Patriots teams that won the Superbowl would have wanted no part of.

 

[JFK]

One more BM won't hurt.
We would be kick ass with that dude.

 

[RyanP421]

There is no way the Patriots are going to give up a #1 and a #3 for a wr with the baggage that Marshall brings and then have to pay him the $ that he is going to want.

Why would they give up a 1 + 3 for Marshall when they could have had Anquan Boldin for nothing, but a 3rd round draft choice?

While I think that Marshall is a top flight talent. He is the type of guy that rips locker rooms apart. He is more T.Owens than Randy Moss. Marshall is exactly the type of player that the Patriots teams that won the Superbowl would have wanted no part of.

Pay attention. Marshall was tendered at just a 1st, no 3rd.

 

[Rob0729]

I didn't say it was a myth, I didn't say it never happen, I didn't say Marshall hadn't, I said a court of law hasn't found him guilty, unlike you who has made up your mind on hearsay, gossip or popular belief that theres no smoke without fire. Just because some do, does not mean everyone does, and having been in the situation of accusation I can tell you it does happen.

You do realize most abuse women refuse to testify against their abusers in court. You do realize when they refuse to cooperate, it is near impossible to get a conviction even with photo evidence of the abuse.

Fact is, Marshall has had several incidents with several women. He has been charged with assaulting a police officer (I assume you are going to tell me all cops lie too) in 2004. The charges against him in 2007 were pleaded down and he got off with a wrist slap. It came out at the trial of the man who allegedly shot Darrent Williams that Marshall and his cousin had multiple verbal and physical altrications with the defendent. Last year, he beat his girlfriend and then she dropped the charges the next day (Something Nicole Brown Simpson did with OJ several times and many battered women do). Seriously, how much evidence do you need.

Maybe you got falsely accused, but you are not Brandon Marshall. The guy has a history of violence that goes beyond hersea and gossip.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Where none have led to a prosecution.

Women make stuff up, Women can be *****s, the fact is he has never been found guilty on any charge of mistreating a women.

The reason he got a ban was because of the association to a crime, and not being guillty of the crime. IMO thats *********, look at the ***** that put a cap in McNair as an example of how women are can be.

Fact, he has been found guilty of DUI's and traffic offences.

He has also done NFL programmes as part of his reduction of ban from 3 down to 1. IMO Marshall has been treated harshly by the media considering.

A court of law doesn't have to find anyone guilty of anything. If he's at risk of league sanctions, then that's a factor. And yes, sometimes women lie to try to extort athletes. But when the same guy has repeated domestic abuse allegations brought against him, that's smoke. Not saying the guy's an awful human being who should be ostracized from society; just that that's a red flag that any team looking to invest a first round pick and tens of millions of dollars into him would want to be aware of.

There are a lot of 'problem' guys in the NFL, but some are worse than others. Some are immature, some have issues with authority for whatever reason, some are just a little crazy, and some are full-on headcases. Marshall is the latter, and this has been a known fact about him since before he was even drafted. That's why he lasted into the fourth round.

 

[Jangles]

I want Marshall

head case or not he's the best WR on the market and having to deal with Moss, Marshall, and eventually a healthy Wes Welker would be a nightmare for any defense in the league.

Signing Mason or any other "over the hill" players would get the job done but it wouldn't create a potentially legendary WR corps like the addition of Marshall could.

 

[JoeShmoe]

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[BritPat]

Jackson has a couple of DUIs. Marshall has multiple occassions of abuse against women. Current testimony has the bullet that killed Darrent Williams actually being meant for Marshall and his cousin. Big difference between the two players.

Then there's his continued attitude problems, Adalius with knobs on basically. When your own team mates ask the coach to bench you, then that should tell the whole world you have major major issues.

 

[Big Bucks]

You do realize most abuse women refuse to testify against their abusers in court. You do realize when they refuse to cooperate, it is near impossible to get a conviction even with photo evidence of the abuse.

Fact is, Marshall has had several incidents with several women. He has been charged with assaulting a police officer (I assume you are going to tell me all cops lie too) in 2004. The charges against him in 2007 were pleaded down and he got off with a wrist slap. It came out at the trial of the man who allegedly shot Darrent Williams that Marshall and his cousin had multiple verbal and physical altrications with the defendent. Last year, he beat his girlfriend and then she dropped the charges the next day (Something Nicole Brown Simpson did with OJ several times and many battered women do). Seriously, how much evidence do you need.

Maybe you got falsely accused, but you are not Brandon Marshall. The guy has a history of violence that goes beyond hersea and gossip.

There you go again, saying I don't think he did them things, I am just saying in a court he has been found not guilty.
And to be honest I don't take to kindly to being called a liar... maybe!, its not a maybe, its a fact ok, I did get accused by some possesive chick who was fcuked up. This is absolutley ridiculous really, you believe what you want and I believe unless you are procecuted and sent to prison you are not guilty, something that many countries around the world is built on.

Lastly I want to make a point regarding the assaulting a police officer, you do realise that he probably shoved the officer to the ground or some stupid **** when he got arrested and tried to resist arrest, yes its assault but hardly beating a policeman black & blue. Anyway maybe my view of innocent untill proven guilty is lost on many people.

 

[Rob0729]

There you go again, saying I don't think he did them things, I am just saying in a court he has been found not guilty.
And to be honest I don't take to kindly to being called a liar... maybe!, its not a maybe, its a fact ok, I did get accused by some possesive chick who was fcuked up. This is absolutley ridiculous really, you believe what you want and I believe unless you are procecuted and sent to prison you are not guilty, something that many countries around the world is built on.

Lastly I want to make a point regarding the assaulting a police officer, you do realise that he probably shoved the officer to the ground or some stupid **** when he got arrested and tried to resist arrest, yes its assault but hardly beating a policeman black & blue. Anyway maybe my view of innocent untill proven guilty is lost on many people.

Marshall has only been found not guilty only once. He has pled down several violence charges and his girlfriend dropped charges on another (not uncommon in domestic violence cases). If you know anything about domestic violence cases, most batters don't go to jail until they send their wives or girlfriends to the hospital or the morgue. A professional athlete can even escape jail time in even in the most extreme cases (see OJ).

This is not a case of innocent until proven guilty. Marshall has pled down several cases. That means he has admitted fault.

Lastly, you accuse me of making assumptions and then turn around and do the same thing. You are trying to minimize his charge of assaulting a police officer without knowing anything about the case. How is that different than what you are accusing me of.

 

[Big Bucks]

Marshall has only been found not guilty only once. He has pled down several violence charges and his girlfriend dropped charges on another (not uncommon in domestic violence cases). If you know anything about domestic violence cases, most batters don't go to jail until they send their wives or girlfriends to the hospital or the morgue. A professional athlete can even escape jail time in even in the most extreme cases (see OJ).

This is not a case of innocent until proven guilty. Marshall has pled down several cases. That means he has admitted fault.

Lastly, you accuse me of making assumptions and then turn around and do the same thing. You are trying to minimize his charge of assaulting a police officer without knowing anything about the case. How is that different than what you are accusing me of.

haha.. you see what I did then. OK for you to assume but not others.

Look we will go round in circles on this, I stand by what I think, and the majority of the situations that have involved another women are more minor than what the press have made them out to be (not that I am saying they are wrong or not bad things to have done), infact the DUI imo is worse (Stallworth).

 

[MoLewisrocks]

There you go again, saying I don't think he did them things, I am just saying in a court he has been found not guilty.
And to be honest I don't take to kindly to being called a liar... maybe!, its not a maybe, its a fact ok, I did get accused by some possesive chick who was fcuked up. This is absolutley ridiculous really, you believe what you want and I believe unless you are procecuted and sent to prison you are not guilty, something that many countries around the world is built on.

Lastly I want to make a point regarding the assaulting a police officer, you do realise that he probably shoved the officer to the ground or some stupid **** when he got arrested and tried to resist arrest, yes its assault but hardly beating a policeman black & blue. Anyway maybe my view of innocent untill proven guilty is lost on many people.

If this is what international marketing of America's Game nets you...

 

[ALP]

Guys we've gone woefully off topic, let's concentrate on Marshall, and decide whether his character issues are too great to be ovelooked, it's the level that matters not the specifics in this case