Rams send tapes of non-calls to NFL

[Watson's IQ]

Agreed.

But, from ESPN's stance, you can get "BAD" and "PATRIOTS" in the headline together.

Don't forget "tape". It's like a wet dream for ESPN, even though as many have mentioned, teams do this all the time.

 

[Joker]

OK Goodell...what are you gonna do???

why "Ramgate" of course....

 

[KCSVEN]

I hope the 15 yard face mask that wasn't called when the O-Line grabbed Seymours face mask for 5 yards and it wasn't called was on the tape.

The play on Bulger was not a facemask at all, and possibly could be a blow to the head but it was not much of a blow(that was like a mosquito bite compared to the blow in the head Brady took during the snow game that was never called), the punt we're talking a few yards difference in interpretation.

The late hit out of bounds the Pats got lucky, he was one step out of bounds and got a shot, it is usually called. The other play I don't even remember but the late hit is offset by the non-call on the Seymour facemask so not sure where there was anything worth going public about.

 

[Joker]

the Rams would be better served writing the league office and requesting a sex test for Bulger and permission to allow him to take Midol

 

[lostjumper]

I think it's funny that Haslett is whining about punt placement when his kicker shanked the ball so far out of bounds that it made it tough for the officials to spot.

 

[lorijean]

I fully expect Inspector Gadget to inform the refs to give us lots of penalties during the Indy game. God forbid Indy loses and does not make the playoffs. Gotta help them out a bit. JMHO

 

[Jackson 2]

I think it's funny that Haslett is whining about punt placement when his kicker shanked the ball so far out of bounds that it made it tough for the officials to spot.

He's a whinebag who has failed at every head coaching coaching opportunity. He'll fail at this one, too.

 

[ALP]

can i do the same? LOL

i bet you i have a LOT of material...much of it from the post season

 

[MassPats38]

Given the antics last year, I suspect allegations will come out that Belichick hand-picked these officials for the game and told them when to flub the calls.

Is this deja vu, or did the same thing happen to San Diego earlier in the year? How did those complaints turn out for them?

The fact is there were some bad calls (I would give the Rams a roughing the passer and an unsportsmanlike conduct call on the hit out of bounds after an interception). Game changers? I do not think so. This sounds like Holmgren after the Super Bowl loss to the Steelers. Cry me a river. Your team lost. Fix the problems and take some individual accountability for the issues. The season is still young and the Rams are far from perfect, so work to get better rather than pointing to the zebras for blame.

 

[Snake Eyes]

Less than perfect officiating hurts the game, and the Rams are doing the right thing by making known any potential errors to the league. One doesn't have to look to far to see games in which we were hurt by bad officiating (last Superbowl, 06 AFC championship against the Colts).

 

[MassPats38]

Less than perfect officiating hurts the game, and the Rams are doing the right thing by making known any potential errors to the league. One doesn't have to look to far to see games in which we were hurt by bad officiating (last Superbowl, 06 AFC championship against the Colts).

Nobody seems to be arguing it is improper to point out bad calls to officials through appropriate internal grievances. It is coaches or players lamenting the bad calls publicly (at a press conference or leaking a story to the media) that detracts from the game. Those complaints usually are played to the tune of "we would have won the game but for this or that bad call," either expressly or implicitly. And unlike the exception in the Broncos-Bolts game where the ref actually admitted he blew a call, most so called bad calls are arguable.

Any complaints raised in the games you cited received the official statement "right call." You and I may disagree with the official statement, but fans can always complain about blown calls. Fans of opposing teams will point to the Colts "mugging" complaints in 2003 as proof the Patriots get away with calls as well. That is a fan debate, not a head coach-NFL debate that makes it appear to the public like officials are incompetent, biased or corrupt.

 

[Gainzo]

Nobody seems to be arguing it is improper to point out bad calls to officials through appropriate internal grievances. It is coaches or players lamenting the bad calls publicly that detracts from the game. Those complaints usually are played to the tune of "we would have won the game but for this or that bad call," either expressly or implicitly. And unlike the exception in the Broncos-Bolts game where the ref actually admitted he blew a call, most so called bad calls are arguable.

Any complaints raised in the games you cited received the official statement "right call." You and I may disagree with the official statement, but fans can always complain about blown calls. Fans of opposing teams will point to the Colts "mugging" complaints in 2003 as proof the Patriots get away with calls as well. That is a fan debate, not a head coach-NFL debate that makes it appear to the public like officials are incompetent, biased or corrupt.

Its laughable that this is the "big" story about officiating as the Falcons got screwed by a call that 100% wrong.

 

[NYCPatsFan]

... This sounds like Holmgren after the Super Bowl loss to the Steelers. Cry me a river. ....

Bad example in an otherwise nice commentary. Ben didn't get that TD and I support Seahawks in lamenting about it because officiating at the SB should be at a far higher level especially when it comes to decisions on awarding TDs.

 

[Snake Eyes]

That is a fan debate, not a head coach-NFL debate that makes it appear to the public like officials are incompetent, biased or corrupt.

and what if they are? The only way something is going to get fixed is if attention is called to it. Why is it that during the Superbowl millions of viewers saw the most blatant example of offensive pass interference and everything went along like nothing ever happened? It kinda frustrates me when I see the slightest tap on Manning's helmet result in a penalty but when the Giants sock Brady in the head seconds after he threw the ball we don't hear blip.

At the end of the day we either have a legitimate sport or we have a low-carb version of the WWF, where the league wants certain teams to win and selectively applies rules to bring about that outcome.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Here we go again...
ESPN - St. Louis Rams send tape of non-calls on New England Patriots to NFL

Bunch of sissies is what they are.

 

[MassPats38]

That is a fan debate, not a head coach-NFL debate that makes it appear to the public like officials are incompetent, biased or corrupt.

and what if they are? The only way something is going to get fixed is if attention is called to it. Why is it that during the Superbowl millions of viewers saw the most blatant example of offensive pass interference and everything went along like nothing ever happened? It kinda frustrates me when I see the slightest tap on Manning's helmet result in a penalty but when the Giants sock Brady in the head seconds after he threw the ball we don't hear blip.

At the end of the day we either have a legitimate sport or we have a low-carb version of the WWF, where the league wants certain teams to win and selectively applies rules to bring about that outcome.

The point is the NFL works through the issues internally, not through the court of public opinion. We as Patriots fans will argue penalties should have been called against the Giants, the Giants fans will argue good call.

For all that goes on at game time, the refs are not terrible. There will be blown calls. That is part of officiating. You just don't want to see blown calls change the outcome of a game.

The answer is put instant replay on everything and increase the number of cameras taping games. Games will take 8 hours to complete with all the reviews, but there will be no mistakes. You also will stand to lose the benefit of calls in the Pats' favor, which you may be surprised to find happens with some frequency. Not every bad call goes against the Pats. The fact is the present system might not be perfect, but it works for the most part and keeps the game moving. I'll take it over the alternative.

 

[NovaScotiaPatsFan]

This sounds like Holmgren after the Super Bowl loss to the Steelers.

The difference is Holmgren was right.

And yeah, this is amateur hour, I don't know why we are surprised tho.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

Whats the big deal? The three plays he was talking about were bad on the part of the officials. Maybe the bulger facemask one was too close to call, but the other two Haslett is right. Just sounds like espn making a mountain out of a mole hill.

 

[spacecrime]

At the end of the day we either have a legitimate sport or we have a low-carb version of the WWF, where the league wants certain teams to win and selectively applies rules to bring about that outcome.

I think your tin-foil hat is on too tight.

 

[Dago]

I'm a juventus soccer fan.
this situation remember me past years,before the scandal called soccer-gate(we fans call it farce-gate)...
after a match of juve there were a lot of polemics,tv opened news with tapes...often there were debates at italian parliament...
simply the pats are still considered the best team and they are feared