scout

He may have waited to his death bed, but his message is loud and clear and comes from the very top.

Dying Cardinal: Church '200 years out of date' - World news - Europe - NBCNews.com

IcyPatriot

Hammer meet nail and he nails it. The church scene in my area of New England has seen the rise over the last 20-30 years in smaller places of worship. Storefronts, older unused buildings with low rent, some very nice structures that operate independently of other organized orders.

I've never been to any but my guess would be that these people feel closer to God, closer to that religious community of people. I often wonder how many people who go to church actually feel part of that churches community ... the church has really lost touch with it's followers.

If god is truly speaking to his people through the church then he's been dropping the ball - or - he's not there to pay attention anyways but that's another topic for another day.

RI Patriots fan

So there are over 200 Cardinals in the church and almost 5,000 bishops and the liberal media quotes the one Cardinal who just happens to be a raging liberal.

I am shocked.

scout

I would not attend any Catholic church which preached the sayings of the Pope. Santorum lectured on what is right according to the 'Catholic' rules and did not capture the Catholic vote. At work, the community is a pocket of Catholics, with a number graduating from Catholic schools. The stories they tell are pretty disturbing (non-sexual, btw).

scout

I missed your point? It was a non-partisan post.

RI Patriots fan

Soooo....you'd attend a Catholic church that didn't teach what the Pope taught? Why bother attending a Catholic church at all if you don't believe in Catholicism?

chicowalker

Or maybe it's slightly more noteworthy when a prominent cardinal contradicts the Church than when one just echoes the status quo?

btw, the Italian paper that reported this is part of the "liberal media"?

RI Patriots fan

I wasn't directing my answer at you but rather the "reporting" of this non-story by the liberal media as some sort of appproval of their agenda.

RI Patriots fan

This Cardinal has been mouthing off for years with his progressive non-sense and everytime he farts, the liberal media can't wait to sniff it up.


Um...last time I checked "Corriere della Sera" seemed pretty liberal. But who knows by European standards.

scout

I have moved around quite a bit, I have attended numerous Catholic churches that do not preach or lecture what the Pope dictates to the media (liberal or conservative). My statement pertaining to Santorum and the Catholic vote would support my assumption. Why do I attend the Catholic church? Because Catholicism is bigger then the Pope.
Seriously, there are plenty of threads that you can start a pissing contest. A Cardinal who was considered for the top position, stated what most Catholics feel, and you want to contest his dying words due to your interpretation of the media that he used?