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Old 07-18-2009, 01:55 AM   #21
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Do YOU believe that evolution is fact? I gather you don't, thus the "quotes." Yet you dare draw an analogy to it? There's no "maturity" in evolution, evolution just keeps happening. It does take time though.
Hah! That's what I tell my kid all the time, "you'll understand when you grow up." That keeps him at bay a few more years.

I DO believe that creation occurred over a long period of time, "long" being considered from our earthly understanding of "time". As the universe most certainly *did* go through a "maturation" process, from hot gases to cooling gases to accumulated particles to solid objects -- with liquid states in-between -- it is similar in principle to what human beings go through. When we are young our minds think accordingly, and as we age so too does our thought process mature .... or at least it *should*.


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Old 07-18-2009, 01:56 AM   #22
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Oh...

I thought John was talking to grownups...my bad. i didn't realize that the Gospel of John was intended for little children. Thanks for the clarification.

You think all people of adult age are equally mature and responsible in their thinking??? I don't.



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Old 07-18-2009, 07:19 AM   #23
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You think all people of adult age are equally mature and responsible in their thinking??? I don't.



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Obviously not. You made this statement:
"The author is quoting Jesus, and I believe it is akin to your young children asking you questions, like, "where do babies come from" or "what happens when a person dies".

To me that means that you see the relationship between the authors of the Gospel and the people reading it..."akin to...children"

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Obviously not. You made this statement:
"The author is quoting Jesus, and I believe it is akin to your young children asking you questions, like, "where do babies come from" or "what happens when a person dies".

To me that means that you see the relationship between the authors of the Gospel and the people reading it..."akin to...children"

As Jesus often said, "for those who have ears they will hear". He said that people at his time did not understand what he was teaching them, and he often expressed his frustration over this fact. His crucifixion itself was done in abject misunderstanding of what he was trying to do, which was to build God's Kingdom on the earth. Jesus taught the Lord's Prayer: ".... Thy will be done, Thy Kingdom come, on earth as it is in Heavan....." Mt 6: 9-13


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It's all about the size of your holy book ... size matters.
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It's all about the size of your holy book ... size matters.

Not necessarily. Jesus said all the law and the prophets could be summarized in two sentences: love God with all your heart, mind, and desire; and love your fellow man as you do yourself.

Today I would say that the most important goal in life is to inherit the true love of God.

We are God's children and so we should inherit His/Her love fully. God yearns for such children who are so filial.


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Not necessarily. Jesus said all the law and the prophets could be summarized in two sentences: love God with all your heart, mind, and desire; and love your fellow man as you do yourself.

Today I would say that the most important goal in life is to inherit the true love of God.

We are God's children and so we should inherit His/Her love fully. God yearns for such children who are so filial.


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The bolded part creeps me out.

Maybe that's why I don't "believe" in God...I refuse to worship anything that considers me to be a child.
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The bolded part creeps me out.

Maybe that's why I don't "believe" in God...I refuse to worship anything that considers me to be a child.

You need to hang around some old people, wistah. I mean really old people, like those who are about to graduate from this world. You've never heard of "second childhood"?? Or "once and adult, twice a child"??

Many who are young in years have maturity that far exceeds those years, while some who have many years under their belts are still very immature in their hearts and minds.

It is what it is. And, yes, we all do need to grow up. All the way. God is totally trustworthy. Nothing to worry about, at all. You are truly safe in God's hands because He/She cares about you more than anyone (though ideally your parents, spouse, and children should do that representing God).

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You need to hang around some old people, wistah. I mean really old people, like those who are about to graduate from this world. You've never heard of "second childhood"?? Or "once and adult, twice a child"??

Many who are young in years have maturity that far exceeds those years, while some who have many years under their belts are still very immature in their hearts and minds.

It is what it is. And, yes, we all do need to grow up. All the way. God is totally trustworthy. Nothing to worry about, at all. You are truly safe in God's hands because He/She cares about you more than anyone (though ideally your parents, spouse, and children should do that representing God).

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Referring to your first point....That's shotgun time and I got a plan.

Second point...no *****

Third point...Tell that to a peasant in Afghanistan or a three year-old with spina-bifida.
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Referring to your first point....That's shotgun time and I got a plan.

Second point...no *****

Third point...Tell that to a peasant in Afghanistan or a three year-old with spina-bifida.


Keep your day job. Communication skills are clearly NOT your forte.





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