weswelker#83

With all due respect to the numerous virtues of the bible, that's why i'm an atheist.


YouTube - "West Wing" - Biblical Quotes




'No More Mr Nice Gay' as Mormons face vote backlash
'No More Mr Nice Gay' as Mormons face vote backlash - Americas, World - The Independent

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IcyPatriot

wes ... how long have you been here now?

There is a religious forum for that stuff.

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Religion is a lightheared topic?

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Move this to religion please.

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Fogbuster

Mahtin Sheen being Mahtin Sheen. Reveling in his element. "West Wing" is left-wing pap for the brain-dead.

Unfortunately for Sheen and those caught up in this slick twisting of the facts, it is not only that one citation in Leviticus that calls same-sex relations onto the carpet, it is every other major religion, especially Christianity, which has held to this tenet consistently.

Heck, even from a Darwinistic point of view of "survival of the fittest", people who do not procreate are all destined to disappear. Oh, today we have test-tube babies and surrogate parents, so we can game the gene pool. But don't forget: it's not nice to fool Mother Nature!!

But the girl WAS wrong: she should have stood up for the president as a matter of protocol. "Render unto Caesar... ", aka, "don't give the devil any excuse to accuse because if you give him an inch he'll take a mile."


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Fogbuster

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Martin Sheen, as in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQx-h...eature=related

"Something came off the roof!!" OUCH!!!!! Not so good to try to fool Mother Nature.


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weswelker#83

Who ever moved this thread to religion has no clue about politics in America.

Go get a clue , Sir.



Separation of church and state
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separat...urch_and_state

FBN aka icy , get a clue too.

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Lifer

With all due respect Wes, "West Wing" is probably not the best source to discuss the Bible. The Bible probably is.

Unlike the myth created sadly by a lot of Christians, Homosexuality is not a scapegoated sin, worse than any other sin. Heterosexual fornication, or sex outside of marriage, if you will, is also sin. So is greed, lust, envy, breaking any one of 10 commandments is sin. And any sin, which all people have, because none of us is perfect, seperates us from God.

The good news is that there is forgiveness for our sin through Jesus Christ.

But no, there is no special punishment for acting on homosexuality, this is a lie put forward by a lot of right wing Christians to take the focus off their own behavior and/or to win elections. Hey, it worked in 2004. We went through 4 years of W because of Homophobia. Without that issue, he would have lost.

Anyway, any questions on the Bible...I would take to the Bible. And not just reading one verse here or there. I find that in study of the Bible, it answers its own questions.

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For those who think Christ is just going to sit around forever just forgiving unconditionally sin after sin after sin, I have three words for you: Rod of iron.

To think we can get away with murder and not pay for it is pretty darn stupid, naive, and not a little arrogant.


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God is truth. Jesus is a lie.

Rod of iron. I think that is a fantasy of yours.

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