Why doesn't AVP incorporate motion into his West Coast Offense?

[Clonamery]

I was being serious... obviously using motion once or twice has no impact but if you're using it all game long it would have to wear you down a little more than if you weren't using it at all, right?

You or I, sure.

 

[Ross12]

You or I, sure.

I mean I see offensive players getting worn out at the end of games all the time. So I'm not sure what the funny part is.

 

[Clonamery]

I mean I see offensive players getting worn out at the end of games all the time. So I'm not sure what the funny part is.

I get that.

In shape players get exhausted running up and down the field on many, many plays per game, or getting mauled by 300+ DL, with just a few breaks when the ball changes over or at halftime or TV timeouts, etc. It's a physical, demanding sport. IMHO, a wr going in motion 6 times a half is not any sort of detriment physically to not employ motion. You may have differing examples of professional sport physical demands but I just don't see them.

 

[Vindicate]

I mean I see offensive players getting worn out at the end of games all the time. So I'm not sure what the funny part is.

I'd argue that the energy needed to burst from a stand still is more exhausting than having a running start. Having done spriting in track I always felt better with the running start of a relay than I did coming out of blocks.

 

[Ross12]

I'd argue that the energy needed to burst from a stand still is more exhausting than having a running start. Having done spriting in track I always felt better with the running start of a relay than I did coming out of blocks.

That's a good point too. I can see the sense there.

 

[State]

For the first time in a while the Saints don't seem so stacked @ WR.

Olave is top tier WR1. And Cedric Wilson has been having a strong camp. They’ve got Bub Means, a rookie a lot of people mocked to thd Patriots, who played for our wr coach at U if Pittsburgh.

And AT Perry looks to make a big jump his second year.

Their other starting wr is good.

WR: Chris Olave, A.T. Perry, Bub Means, Kevin Austin Jr, Marquez Callaway

WR: Rashid Shaheed, Cedrick Wilson Jr., Equanimeous St. Brown, Stanley Morgan, Mason Tipton, Samson Nacua

 

[PatsFan2]

Olave is top tier WR1. And Cedric Wilson has been having a strong camp. They’ve got Bub Means, a rookie a lot of people mocked to thd Patriots, who played for our wr coach at U if Pittsburgh.

And AT Perry looks to make a big jump his second year.

Their other starting wr is good.

I was thinking of Michael Thomas who played like forever for them I really like AT Perry in the 23 Draft. I forgot they Drafted Olave last year.

 

[Steve102]

I get that.

In shape players get exhausted running up and down the field on many, many plays per game, or getting mauled by 300+ DL, with just a few breaks when the ball changes over or at halftime or TV timeouts, etc. It's a physical, demanding sport. IMHO, a wr going in motion 6 times a half is not any sort of detriment physically to not employ motion. You may have differing examples of professional sport physical demands but I just don't see them.

I'll retweet this. Teams have multiple guys that can motion. You're not sending the X or Z receiver every time. Sometimes it's a back, and sometimes it's the Y or the slot. Any one of the "skill" players can go in motion, and any one of them can be given a breather and the 2nd or 3rd guys can come in, while the CBs, S and maybe LBs stay on the field. This shouldn't be the reason teams get gassed on offense. Pounding the rock with the same back over and over or having the OL guys get winded is far more likely.

 

[State]

Mason Tipton, an undrafted Yalie, has been making a positive impression at the Saints camp.

 

[Thelonious]

I'm no expert, but I would suspect that this offense, as with the previous one here, will, if it succeeds and persists, evolve over many years. (The last one arguably grew to such complexity that it became for many players unlearnable.) If that is so, then it may be that motion principles will be incorporated over time once the staff and the players get a handle on the scheme's basic principles and as new players come along whose performance can be enhanced by implementing those principles. That's my guess. It might also be that a new/inexperienced staff might want the greater control that a more rigorously planned version 9f the offense, one which leaves less discretion in the hands of the players, including a new QB, offers. That actually makes some sense as well. So I suppose the answer is," It's early."

 

[TomPatriot]

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There goes that theory. Not a bad article.