UnBelieveable PUP list - Jackson PUPed, Claridge OUT!

[pats1]

everything.

wait till game day.

Richy Rich will be back soon sucka's!

What the hell are you talking about?

 

[belichickaholic]

Pre-season nothing! Honestly, BB takes "creative liberties" with his in-season Injury List, why wouldn't he do the same with training camp? It will all be fine, doom and gloomers!

I don't know, I hope your right. But it just seems like every year we start the season with 56 players on the injury list. All through camp, all through pre season... Wouldn't it be nice to not have all these injuries for a change?

I know it's only the beginning of TC, but it seems to be a regular occurance with this team. What's that saying? You can't make the club from the tub?

Isn't it supposed to be about competition?

 

[spacecrime]

Re: Seymour placed on PUP

Richy Rich will be back soon sucka's!

Tell one one of the attendants they forgot to give you your evening meds.

 

[DaBruinz]

The only thing I can think of with Claridge is that the releasing of Claridge is because of an injury settlement and they feel he won't be able to play.

Either that, or he showed up and had pulled a Donald Hayes, not learning the play-book.

 

[DaBruinz]

The warning signs for Claridge had been out there. The whole not working out in NE thing. I know he's had some personal issues lately, but I began to have doubts about the guy when somebody reported he was staying in his home state for his re-hab.

Jackson's career is off to a rousing start. :sarcasm:

Sooner -
It could very well be that he hasn't gotten over the death of his brother Travis and felt that his heart wasn't into football.

As for Claridge going back to Las Vegas to re-hab, they have some very good facilities there and the Patriots said he could go right after they put him on the IR last year. So, why does that give you doubts?

 

[DaBruinz]

Young also has all the athletic talent in the world and nearly single handedly defeated one of college football's best teams of all time in the national championship game.

Roach made a lot of tackles, I guess.

Do you actually have Roach's Wonderlic score or are you just shooting from the hip here?

Roach was a very productive player in college, but was projected as a 2 down LB. There were TONS of 2 Down LBs in the draft this year. Its why Roach fell.

 

[RoughingthePasser]

I think there is something going on UNDER THE RADAR HERE....and it smells rotten.

I am guessing that there are, under the table, deals being made for certain players to allow them not having to participate in some of the earlier traing camp routines.....sort of a payoff to them...

It is just toomuch of a coincidence that so many players, particularly quality ones, are all ending up on the PUP...

I smell something.

How about paying players to headhunt Peyton

 

[Brady'sButtBoy]

Hysteria rules over reason - Pat's camp beset by insanity!

Good grief people, the odds that Claridge would have ever had a real impact on this were 500-1 or worse. I had high hopes for him, but now I wonder if the team carried the rookie LB as long as they did as a favor to the young man and in view of the awful tragedy of his brother's passing. I wish him well.

As for the regulars on the PUP, eh, it means nothing much except the team giving itself a tad of wiggle room for the roster in TC and the freak chance more than Harrison and Koppen won't be ready.

 

[Robdude]

It's a big deal in that BB is saying the player is not physically capable of playing football.

You can't move players on and off PUP.


See now I do disagree with this statement. What Belichick means when he uses this statement is different then most coaches. I do think he uses the PUP at the beginning of training camp pretty liberally and I do beleive he can just pull them off of it when he sees fit. I mean right now he can pull them off when he chooses I know he cannot later in the season. So certainly some one on the PUP could have a serious injury but I would be surprised.

Either way it is a good thing I am not a betting man because I would have bet my house that the test was first thing in the morning.

 

[primetime]

Do you actually have Roach's Wonderlic score or are you just shooting from the hip here?

Roach was a very productive player in college, but was projected as a 2 down LB. There were TONS of 2 Down LBs in the draft this year. Its why Roach fell.

I can't find the original article on ESPN so I'll just refer you to this post by a semi-coherent guy on some message board: http://mb18.scout.com/fgavsvfrm8.showMessage?topicID=6173.topic

He tied for the lowest score with a number of other guys, including recently released Patriots UDFA Kader Drame. It was an 8, not a 5, but the guy is still far below literacy.

 

[captain stone]

I can't find the original article on ESPN so I'll just refer you to this post by a semi-coherent guy on some message board: http://mb18.scout.com/fgavsvfrm8.showMessage?topicID=6173.topic

He tied for the lowest score with a number of other guys, including recently released Patriots UDFA Kader Drame. It was an 8, not a 5, but the guy is still far below literacy.

Acording to NFLDraftScout.com, as it appears in USAToday.com, Roach scored a 10/26 on the Wonderlic. He also graduated in 2005 with a degree in Human Enviromental Sciences, whatever that is. Reminds me of a bit that was part of the "Sports Huddle" opening segment. Man, I'm old...

 

[primetime]

Acording to NFLDraftScout.com, as it appears in USAToday.com, Roach scored a 10/26 on the Wonderlic.

10/26? There are 50 questions on the Wonderlic, I'm not sure how that could happen. Either way, he probably can't read or write.

 

[captain stone]

10/26? There are 50 questions on the Wonderlic, I'm not sure how that could happen. Either way, he probably can't read or write.

I think "10/26" means that he answered 26 questions, 10 correctly.
Regardless, Roach is the closest run-stuffing ILB specimen on the roster, not including Klecko (who I assumed at that time was drafted to play ILB). I hope he makes the 53.

 

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

The Pats are so pathetic when it comes to health, their players get injured in the offseason. Whether the are playing games or in offseason, the injury bug never seems to leave. How the hell do you get injured the offseason? You miss most of the season with injury have a whole offseason to rehab and I see the same players on the PUP list! What do they do in the offseason? This is really getting annoying!

 

[SoonerPatriot]

Sooner -
It could very well be that he hasn't gotten over the death of his brother Travis and felt that his heart wasn't into football.

As for Claridge going back to Las Vegas to re-hab, they have some very good facilities there and the Patriots said he could go right after they put him on the IR last year. So, why does that give you doubts?

No doubt his brothers death has hit him hard. But I've known people who have lost a kid who grieve, and continue grieving, but have had to move on with their lives. That usually means making a living. Paying the bills.

That being said, I agree, there's no definitive evidence his staying in Vegas had anything to do with it. But teams have been known to look down their noses at players who don't spend much time (if any) working out in house. As someone else brought up, probably the most likely issue was him was maybe not coming in prepared, knowing the defense etc. Or he's hurt. I lean towards the unprepared, not knowing what's going on side.

 

[Mike the Brit]

PUP players at this point count against the roster limit. There's no advantage in that department.

So much for another BB pushing the edge of the envelope theory

What makes you say this, pats1?

According to Miguel's FAQs, those on Active/PUP (that's the pre-season form of PUP) count against the cap, but he does not say anything about them counting against the roster. To me, it seems extremely unlikely -- what is the point of declaring a player on PUP in that case?

Miguel. Could you clear this up, please? (A point to clarify on the excellent FAQs?)

 

[Pats726]

According to Miguel's FAQs, those on Active/PUP (that's the pre-season form of PUP) count against the cap, but he does not say anything about them counting against the roster. To me, it seems extremely unlikely -- what is the point of declaring a player on PUP in that case?

They count against the roster as well as the cap.
And it makes sense..Physically Unable to Perform..basically meaning they are NOT ready for camp..There has to be a way to designate these players so that IF they stay "unable to perform". then they may NOT be ready for the season...and RESERVE-PUP out a number of weeks. AND ONLY those who were never ready for camp are eligible for the Reserve PUP..which is why once fully in camp, they can't go back to it. In actuallity, the PUP players are there for part of the drills, but at a certain point head for the bubble..and then return later. But it all makes sense..and of these player did NOT count against the roster, teams could bring in more rooks to see..actually inflating what their true roster is.

 

[Pats67]

I think there is something going on UNDER THE RADAR HERE....and it smells rotten.

I am guessing that there are, under the table, deals being made for certain players to allow them not having to participate in some of the earlier traing camp routines.....sort of a payoff to them...

It is just toomuch of a coincidence that so many players, particularly quality ones, are all ending up on the PUP...

I smell something.

Your brain cooking?

Jesus, the hysteria. The paranoia. The conspiracy theories. This board ought to be moderated by Art Bell.

 

[Pats67]

I forgot the whining. The whining is a key feature too. "Boo hoo, these injuries are so frustrating! <insert sad little smilie here>"

 

[Clonamery]

Your brain cooking?

Jesus, the hysteria. The paranoia. The conspiracy theories. This board ought to be moderated by Art Bell.

Art Bell? Can he play LB? What about Jesus? Paranoia and Hysteria will just be gone after the first round of training camp cuts so I wouldn't even sign them....

Conspiracy Theory is in BB's dog house......he's going to have to give extra effort to see any playing time.