Ted Johnson Interview on Real Sports.. this guy is in trouble..

[MoLewisrocks]

thats a good point lol.but he needs to pay the bet he lost .what everyone should do is refuse to respond to any post of his regarding football and demand he pay his lost bet .

We could, but then what would you do with your life?

Chase him around the visitors locker room all you want. But quit hijacking threads on the main board with your childish troll obcessed bs. You're becoming more annoying than Aqua, and that's going some.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I wouldn't be so sure the effort isn't there. Part of the depression is an unwillingness to get or accept help. Ted should be in intensive therapy and on any one or a combination of anti-depressants. But if he prefers to sit in a darkened room until someone asks him to "tell his story" (which is just another excuse to vent his woe-is-me version of who did this to me) then there isn't much you can do. There is another old adage to be mindful of in cases like this - God helps those who help themselves... Ted likely has better insurance and access to treatment than most of us and lots of friends with deep pockets who care and would (and likely have) tried to support him in any effort to get his situation under control. It could be that his own neurologist is his worst enemy - telling some people it is what it is and it's someone elses fault to boot (including even genetics or in this case concussions) can become the crutch that allows them to just curl up in a ball and wallow in self pity.

I have a friend who is dealing with something equally, if not exponentially more debilitating - early onset (57) alzheimers. Diagnosed almost 3 years ago, and just 6 months after she took a silver bullit retirement (because she thought maybe the stress of her job was draining her) with plans to supplement her income by consulting in her field (risk management specialist with an MBA completed in her 40's). But after the shock wore off and the tears subsided she got herself into a clinical trial at a major Boston hospital that guarantees her cuting edge investigational medication and treatment from some of the top specialists in the field and she has gotten on with living the rest of her life as best she can. She was a career girl who never married, so her core support system was limited to a few close friends/relatives. And her beloved (but by then aging) terrier she'd shown to championships in his youth - even showing him herself at Westminster. She had the sense to add a puppy to her support group to insure she wouldn't be alone and would have a reason to get up and keep going - hopefully for several more years. Although because they all have other issues to deal with in their own lives, her core support group is already starting to press her to consider assisted living...

I bet she'd trade places with Ted, who may or may not face a similar fate down the road - but he's not there yet and may never be if he chooses to fight for his quality of life rather than just turtling.

I am very close to someone afflicted with clinical depression and your words about support and somehow taking charge of your own fate, admitedly very difficult for the depressed to do, are right on target.
TJ has access to far better care than the avreage person.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

thats a good point lol.but he needs to pay the bet he lost .what everyone should do is refuse to respond to any post of his regarding football and demand he pay his lost bet .

He's arrogant and stupid beyond his years. He lost another bet wherein he'd never post in the Forum again. Yet he's still here. The epitomy of a Losah!

 

[biffman]

I feel bad for the guy - really - but he needs to cut the crap. The "forced practices" were in 2002 and he played something like 3 more years after that. Or did Belichick not allow him to retire ?

Besides which, he wanted to play for the Patriots LAST YEAR. He couldn't have been too worried about the concussions.

 

[RayClay]

Very good points here, MoLewis and others.

Part of depression is avoiding directly confronting the problem and i seriously doubt he all of a sudden decides to do TV interviews.

His family and friends need to step up to the plate and get him treatment. Whoever is parading him around to interviews sounds like someone trying to cash in on his misery.

I don't know this, but how could you be that depressed yet decide yo do a series of interviews. doesn't add up.

 

[Hoodie]

Where's the Player's Association in all this? Do they have mental health services they can make available to him? There's a long list of current and former players who are suffereing from a mental illness -- from bipolar, to depression to anxiety disorder. This should be something they focus on.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Where's the Player's Association in all this? Do they have mental health services they can make available to him? There's a long list of current and former players who are suffereing from a mental illness -- from bipolar, to depression to anxiety disorder. This should be something they focus on.

You gotta be kidding. The Players Association cares as much about the health of retired players as the Teachers Association cares about educating kids. All they care about is money for the present paying constituency.

 

[Hoodie]

You gotta be kidding. The Players Association cares as much about the health of retired players as the Teachers Association cares about educating kids. All they care about is money for the present paying constituency.

That may be so but my point is they ought to care about players like Ted and Ricky Williams and the former Raider who tried to commit suicide by cop. Unfortunately, I think the lack of concern is a reflection of societies lack of understanding about mental illness in general.

 

[patfanken]

I'm glad he's telling his story. I have a teenage son who has begged me to allow him to play football, but after reading about TJ's story, there's no way. I appreciate TJ's message. But I don't see the need to point a finger directly at Belichick. Truly a sad story though. Prayers for Ted Johnson.

bellichickaholic, check your PM. I just sent you one.

 

[Tunescribe]

I have a teenage son who has begged me to allow him to play football, but after reading about TJ's story, there's no way.

I hate seeing things like this. Your son would learn things from playing football that would serve him the rest of his life. Any chance of him suffering a fate remotely resembling what Ted Johnson is going through is practically non-existent. Let the boy play football when he can, it's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity!

 

[Remix 6]

Aqua. remember this:

Ted Johnson did not inform BB that he was too hurt to play. Whos fault is that? is BB a mind reader? nope

 

[signbabybrady]

He's arrogant and stupid beyond his years. He lost another bet wherein he'd never post in the Forum again. Yet he's still here. The epitomy of a Losah!

As for TJ - loved the guy and feel really bad for him.
a) concussions:I do not blame BB, I do blame the NFL however as steps need to be taken to not only do a better job of making sure players are not causing more harm to themselves via frequent concussions, but also, for not doing the right things and helping these guys out after their careers are over - NO EXCUSE. b) depression: Won't anybody help this guy out from his circle of family members, friends or even the NFL. I am afraid we are going to read someday that he has taken his own life.


And now, on a ridiculous aggravating note -- Jerko Aqua turd: I think he should be banned until he pays off the Bread of Life as he said he would.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...ead.php?t=40177&page=7&highlight=aqua+charity

BAN AQUA SCUM

 

[fgssand]

As for TJ - loved the guy and feel really bad for him.
a) concussions:I do not blame BB, I do blame the NFL however as steps need to be taken to not only do a better job of making sure players are not causing more harm to themselves via frequent concussions, but also, for not doing the right things and helping these guys out after their careers are over - NO EXCUSE. b) depression: Won't anybody help this guy out from his circle of family members, friends or even the NFL. I am afraid we are going to read someday that he has taken his own life.


And now, on a ridiculous aggravating note -- Jerko Aqua turd: I think he should be banned until he pays off the Bread of Life as he said he would.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...ead.php?t=40177&page=7&highlight=aqua+charity

BAN AQUA SCUM

Thanks for the support SBB - I think you know where I stand on the issueof Aqua jerk

BAN THE SCUMBAG - until he pay off his debt to Bread of Life.

 

[g-fresh]

I'm glad he's telling his story. I have a teenage son who has begged me to allow him to play football, but after reading about TJ's story, there's no way. I appreciate TJ's message. But I don't see the need to point a finger directly at Belichick. Truly a sad story though. Prayers for Ted Johnson.

I appreciate that you are only looking out for your son and want to protect his health, but you are being over protective here. Are you not going to let him drive? Not let him ride a bike? Not let him play any sports? There are a million ways he could get hurt, don't make him miss out on the chance to play and learn from football because of one case of a football injury.

Anyway, I like TJ but I have to say I think there is more going on here than he would have us believe. At some point you have to take accountability for your action and in this case TJ is blaming his problems on others and apparently not doing anything to get help. I will guarantee that the Krafts have made the best treatment available to TJ if he wants it. If he can get out of his darkened apartment to do interviews about his problems he can get out to talk to a therapist about them too.

I could be wrong, but someone sitting in their darkened apartment for weeks and not caring for themselves does not sound like someone who is getting treatment. I have a good deal of experience with these issues and my heart really does go out to TJ. That being said I fear that if he does not get help at some point this could end badly.

 

[Aqua4Ever04]

Better yet: Maybe Saban should've held the entire Doofins team out of THEIR practices last season. Probably would've done just as well.

Well not to start a war, but you asked for it.

Maybe Bellichick should've pullled Brady after receiveing a 21-0 BEATING from the Dolphins. Oh that's right, he did. Nothing better than forcing Brady to the bench because of ineffectiveness.

 

[hobbsownscoles]

Well not to start a war, but you asked for it.

Maybe Bellichick should've pullled Brady after receiveing a 21-0 BEATING from the Dolphins. Oh that's right, he did. Nothing better than forcing Brady to the bench because of ineffectiveness.

Mabye They should have pulled Orlindo Mare after he missed a few chip shots which led to an 80 yard bomb brady to brown, same season we were 14-2 won our second super bowl and dolphins missed the playoffs, where they haven't been since God knows when

 

[dhamz]

Maybe Bellichick should've pullled Brady after receiveing a 21-0 BEATING from the Dolphins. Oh that's right, he did. Nothing better than forcing Brady to the bench because of ineffectiveness.

Really, there's nothing better than that? Guess when your team has stunk for 30 some odd years your goals are low.

 

[Patriotic]

Aqua -
Unless you know something about depression (and your comments suggest you don't know anything), its pretty stupid of you to try and link Johnson's illness with the concussions he suffered.

With a name like Aqua4Ever, I think its safe to assume he knows lots about depression.

Now if you question Aqua about satisfying a woman, there's subject he'd have little to say about.

 

[PonyExpress]

I do not believe TJ is a credible spokesperson on this issue for many reasons which have been debated previously on this site. IMO TJ is lying about several of the events he describes publicly in his own medical history.
Without rehashing all the holes in his story, here is one example: Johnson claims to have had 30 concussions in his professional career, some lesser, some greater, but only reported 6. On Felger's show, he admitted having a concussion in college, but went on to assert that EVERY ONE of his 30 professional concussions (80% unreported) occurred after the alleged incident with Belichick in 2003 Training Camp, his 7th year in the NFL. IMO, that is an obvious lie. His motive for this lie is equally obvious. It conveniently smears BB as the sole cause of his issues and sets up a clear target for legal action. I guess though, because he's depressed, it's acceptable to publicly lie about your medical history and unjustly smear another person to absolve yourself of blame for your own poor judgment. In the same vein, Johnson implies that all his issues, including drug addiction and family battery, are the result of that one incident, an incident which we now know was set in a false context by Johnson himself. Hopefully he can get past this and make the focus of his life something productive and fulfilling.

 

[dhamz]

His motive for this lie is equally obvious. It conveniently smears BB as the sole cause of his issues and sets up a clear target for legal action. I guess though, because he's depressed, it's acceptable to publicly lie about your medical history and unjustly smear another person to absolve yourself of blame for your own poor judgment.

It is only acceptable if the Boston media doesn't like the person you smear. If a former Celtic ever smeared Doc Rivers the media would crucify the player.