Talk about Super Bowl curse

[DisgruntledTunaFan]

Rosenhaus was Stallworth's agent too. Supposedly Belioli have a very good relationship with him. I expect that is because smart respects smart (and we've never gone after one of his particularly troubled clients...).

As for the Giants, made a HUGE mistake not trading Shockey before the draft. Might have helped them bridge the Strahan gap, too (no pun intended). They remain afraid Boss is not talented enough to pass the sophomore season smell test. But Shockey is just a cancer, in the locker room and on the field where he browbeats Eli into making stupid mistakes. Plax has been Eli's binky, and that can be a blessing and a curse. I'd imagine with a ring his will to play hurt is wavering - ergo the contract demands. And Eli needs some steady talent around him or he's never going to be more than what he currently is, a crap shoot.

Damn, now I'm thinking about how we lost #4 to a crap shoot again...:violent:

In all fairness to Shockey, he is a VERY, VERY underrated run blocker. One of the Giants' bread-and-butter plays are those outside runs, where Shockey does his part sealing it off.

Sure-the guy is a nutcase, but IF he played for the Saints this year-Reggie Bush would be looking like an ALL-PRO-Why? B/c his STRENGTH in running the ball is on those very EDGES(which, of course, is Shockey's run blocking strengths). Not only would he be reteaming with his former OC(Sean Payton)-but he would have been a HUGE upgrade to the Saints' running attack.

It's alot like TO in Dallas-sure, toward the end of '07, you saw the old shades of his personality on the sidelines and in the locker room. HOWEVER-when he got injured later on, you saw how ORDINARY the Dallas O looked without him.

Really-why does everyone pay attention to all these soap operas? These guys are grown men-sure, they may moan and grope, but even they know they have jobs to do.

 

[bitsygirl]

Give it up. Who cares about those players. They don't affect us at all. No one player does.
Bill knows his people!
I can't wait for football. I don't want to wish Summer away, but.............?

Let's go!

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Re: Talk about superbowl curse

To be honest, the Giants don't need Shockey and I'd go as far to say as they're better off without him.

Losing Strahan is without a doubt the biggest problem right now, huge loss, regardless of the depth.

I have a feeling Plax will eventually work things out. Doesn't seem to be too serious as of yet, we'll see what happens once training camp starts up.

Funny that Shockey, Plax, and Chad Johnson are all clients of Drew Rosenhaus.

"Bingo" on the Drew Rosenhaus point.

You're right on about Shockey, who is the quintessential definition of "forgotten but not gone."

As for Plaxico, what you see is what you get. He left the Steelers unhappy and he's brought his problems to the Giants. Their problem.

Great post!

 

[PatsFanSince74]

I live in Manhattan and what I now say to my friends who are Giants fans (and they're ALL Giants fans now, even though I kicked a guy out of my home on SB Sunday who was going nuts for the Giants, but didn't know who Osi was...)...what I say to them is that the better team on the field, which coached and played the better game, won in February and, so, you have my congratulations. When they push it and try to get me to say that, well, that means the Giants were the better team, period, I reply: you go to five of the next seven NFC Championship Games, you go to four of the next seven Super Bowls and you win three of them, then you can come to me and tell me to my face that the Giants might have been the better team. For now, your team played and coached an amazing game and beat us straight up on the field in that game, but don't try to tell me that they're the better team.

 

[NJPatsfan26]

I live in Manhattan and what I now say to my friends who are Giants fans (and they're ALL Giants fans now, even though I kicked a guy out of my home on SB Sunday who was going nuts for the Giants, but didn't know who Osi was...)...what I say to them is that the better team on the field, which coached and played the better game, won in February and, so, you have my congratulations. When they push it and try to get me to say that, well, that means the Giants were the better team, period, I reply: you go to five of the next seven NFC Championship Games, you go to four of the next seven Super Bowls and you win three of them, then you can come to me and tell me to my face that the Giants might have been the better team. For now, your team played and coached an amazing game and beat us straight up on the field in that game, but don't try to tell me that they're the better team.

They will be lucky to go the next 7 seasons and see a SB at all....

:singing::singing:

 

[bradmahn]

This is certainly becoming less surprising with each arrest.

Giants DB Geoffrey Pope is accused of felony assault by Detroit Police after allegedly smashing a champagne bottle over a man's head on Friday night.
Pope's victim was reportedly the son of a Detroit news anchor who needed 28 stitches to seal his wound. Having just finished minicamps, Pope was in town to show his grandmother his Super Bowl ring. He won't be hard to cut.

It's hard to say so many problems won't affect the team this year.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

This is certainly becoming less surprising with each arrest.



It's hard to say so many problems won't affect the team this year.

To use the baseball analogy, the Giants played alot like the Colorado Rockies at the end of last year. They played out of their minds the last month of the season and in the early rounds of the playoffs (until they faced the Sox in the World Series) This year they came back to earth and were in last place when I checked. The Giants played out of thier minds at the end of the season and carried through into and thru the Super bowl. I think they come back to earth when they are the hunted with a target on their backs...especially in that division...

 

[the Patriot]

The Giants can survive without Shockey and Burress. Their season will depend on Eli's performance.

 

[NJPatsfan26]

The Giants can survive without Shockey and Burress. Their season will depend on Eli's performance.

Well thats a relief......we have nothing to worry about then...

LOL..


GO PATS!!

:rocker::rocker:

 

[Big Blue Champions]

To use the baseball analogy, the Giants played alot like the Colorado Rockies at the end of last year. They played out of their minds the last month of the season and in the early rounds of the playoffs (until they faced the Sox in the World Series) This year they came back to earth and were in last place when I checked. The Giants played out of thier minds at the end of the season and carried through into and thru the Super bowl. I think they come back to earth when they are the hunted with a target on their backs...especially in that division...

The Giants are not the Rockies... What everyone forgets is that the Giants made the playoffs in 2007, 2006, 2005, 2002, and 2000. That span includes five playoff appearences, 3 playoff appearences in a row currently, 2 (2005 and 2000) division titles, 2 NFC titles (2007 and 2000) and 1 Super Bowl Championship (2007). Not a bad run this decade. Not the Patriots, but believe it or not the second most Super Bowl appearences this decade behind your team. Face the facts the Giants have been a solid team for a while. I think that proves the Giants are not a one hit wonder.

By the way you guys have a great board. I enjoy the great topics you always have. I mean that. I am not joking.

 

[Disco Volante]

We all know the Giants are a team that can't handle adversity.

Just look at last season!