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How does Spotrac not even understand the basics of the salary cap? He's only underpaid if you ignore that Seattle would desposit $57M into his bank account; $38M for sign-on acceleration along with the $19M they'd have to pay him for 2021 (non-refundable) if they trade him in June.

That's paying him $58M for him to never play another snap with the team. Of course, after Seattle puts that money into Wilson's bank account, money which was supposed to be spread out over the next three years, then those next three years will then have less money allotted to them.

Lol...this dude runs Spotrac?
 
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They'd never let him go. They'd be drafting top 10 without him. Lifeblood of that team. Be a funny discussion with pete:

"Hey Wilson, how would you like to go to NE? You'd be throwing to Nkeal Harry, Matt Lacosse.."

"On second thought, how can I help improve the line here?
 
How does Spoctrac not even understand the basics of the salary cap? He's only underpaid if you ignore that Seattle would desposit $57M into his bank account; $38M for sign-on acceleration along with the $19M they'd have to pay him for 2021 (non-refundable) if they trade him in June.

That's paying him $58M for him to never play another snap with the team. Of course, after Seattle puts that money into Wilson's bank account, money which was supposed to be spread out over the next three years, then those next three years will then have less money allotted to them.

Lol...this dud runs Spoctrac?

Most of that is also trade post june 1 when the draft is over.
 
How does Spoctrac not even understand the basics of the salary cap? He's only underpaid if you ignore that Seattle would desposit $57M into his bank account; $38M for sign-on acceleration along with the $19M they'd have to pay him for 2021 (non-refundable) if they trade him in June.

That's paying him $58M for him to never play another snap with the team. Of course, after Seattle puts that money into Wilson's bank account, money which was supposed to be spread out over the next three years, then those next three years will then have less money allotted to them.

Lol...this dud runs Spoctrac?
I was taking It to be tongue in cheek. He's most definitely not underpaid, despite what those cap hits following a trade might say.
 
Bill Parcells Belichick buys the groceries... Russell Wilson cooks... Match made in heaven...

But

Geezus, hes taking up 18% of the seahawks cap next season... Good luck on getting any real help Russell...
 
Situations like this are reminding me of what was happening several years ago. Drew Rosenhaus would have his big name clients (often diva wide receivers) sign a long term contract with a big signing bonus, temporarily massaging their ego as 'the biggest contract ever'. Then after receiving all that up front money, less than half way through the contract said players would demand a trade unless their contract was renegotiated, claiming they were vastly underpaid.

For years teams have been working contracts and their cap situations on the assumption that the cap would continue to increase dramatically each and every year, forever. Now due to much lower than anticipated revenues in 2020, that is not going to be the case. And since that shortfall is so dramatic, it is being spread over three seasons to avoid what could have been an extremely chaotic situation.

Since the big contracts are typically three or four year deals, that means the cap crunch teams are experiencing now is not going to be just a one-year problem. While this year will be the worst in terms of managing the cap, many teams will continue to have issues in 2022 and even 2023. This is especially true for teams that will be addressing the problem with extensions to minimize their 2021 cap. Due to that revenue shortfall, kicking the can down the road will simply mean that team will be in the same situation a year from now.

Another problem is that players and their agents seem to be either ignorant or in denial of what is happening. They are going to be in for a rude awakening when free agency begins a few weeks from now. We'll probably hear screams of 'collusion' from the NFLPA, but 2021 is going to be a less than expected bonanza for most free agents.
 
One downside to a Wilson trade would be the NYJ picking high in next years draft since they own Seattle’s 2022 1st.
 
Situations like this are reminding me of what was happening several years ago. Drew Rosenhaus would have his big name clients (often diva wide receivers) sign a long term contract with a big signing bonus, temporarily massaging their ego as 'the biggest contract ever'. Then after receiving all that up front money, less than half way through the contract said players would demand a trade unless their contract was renegotiated, claiming they were vastly underpaid.

For years teams have been working contracts and their cap situations on the assumption that the cap would continue to increase dramatically each and every year, forever. Now due to much lower than anticipated revenues in 2020, that is not going to be the case. And since that shortfall is so dramatic, it is being spread over three seasons to avoid what could have been an extremely chaotic situation.

Since the big contracts are typically three or four year deals, that means the cap crunch teams are experiencing now is not going to be just a one-year problem. While this year will be the worst in terms of managing the cap, many teams will continue to have issues in 2022 and even 2023. This is especially true for teams that will be addressing the problem with extensions to minimize their 2021 cap. Due to that revenue shortfall kicking the can down the road will simply mean that team will be in the same situation a year from now.

Another problem is that players and their agents seem to be either ignorant or in denial of what is happening. They are going to be in for a rude awakening when free agency begins a few weeks ago. We'll probably hear screams of 'collusion' from the NFLPA, but 2021 is going to be a less than expected bonanza for most free agents.
I am willing to bet that for many mid level guys, it'll be a buyers market. This could fall right in Belichicks hands.

Haters get ready.
 
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Dude is the most overrated quarterback in the NFL, and possibly most overrated athlete in American pro sports. Want nothing to do with the guy. Just trade for Jimmy G, and go win a Super Bowl next year for Bill.
 
Seattle has done a poor job developing an offensive line that will protect Wilson. This past season he went downhill as the season went on. Wilson is unhappy with Seattle, Seattle is unhappy with Wilson.

Russell Wilson is NOT coming to the Patriots.

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I've come to appreciate Wilson's overall game and think he's a top quarterback despite his flaws, but I'll reiterate exactly what I've been saying for years about him and why isn't as great as his passer rating:
  • He's under 6'0", and it really stands out because he can't see over linemen on a lot of plays. This leads to him scrambling around and buying time when taller QBs would have read the field a lot easier.
  • He's actually better when the play breaks down and he throws on the run; that's where he gets most of his big plays and he relies on receivers athleticism over anything else.
  • He seems unable to run a discliplined system of precise route running and quick passes which would lead to less sacks, mainly due to the first two points. That style doesn't suit him.
  • His entire career has been a whining fest about the offensive line even though Seattle has attempted to fix it many times. Basically every quarterback that scrambles as much as him or did at one point (Watson, Rodgers) always use the line as an excuse, but 320 lbs linemen are built to be stationary and not to run around blocking guys from different angles as you tuck the ball and run like a game of playground tag.
Notice how the Packers offensive line suddenly became the best unit in football since Rodgers reigned in his scrambling under Matt LaFleur's guidance, or how the Buccaneers offensive linemen are suddenly elite when they know what they need to do for a 2.5 seconds? The Steelers supposedly had the worst line in the NFL for years, followed by the best, coinciding with Roethlisberger playing more in the pocket.

That said, I would take Wilson in a split second as the Patriots quarterback. He is a Hall of Fame QB. It's just that I wouldn't expect protection to be much better anywhere else.
The problem isn't that he's too short to see over a line lol. Height had little to do with it. If that were the case Cam would literally reign supreme. Even tall guys have trouble seeing over lineman. But it doesn't really work that way. 6 or 6"5 you're manipulating lanes, using the pocket to your advantage for line of sight. Height really has little to do with it.

Playing QB is a barter system. And Wilson simply trades time for big plays. You could put him behind the best OL in the league but get the same results if he wants to make that trade.

A better OL would go a long way if he were to marry his style with that compromise in philosophy but we are where we are. I think he could do it but not sure how long he could sustain it. Bring him and all his problems here. I think you could win with him.
 
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Seattle has done a poor job developing an offensive line that will protect Wilson. This past season he went downhill as the season went on. Wilson is unhappy with Seattle, Seattle is unhappy with Wilson.

Russell Wilson is NOT coming to the Patriots.

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Last year, Brady played behind an OL that was, without question, one of the worst in the league. While playing behind that garbage OL, Brady was sacked 27 times. He's only been sacked more than 40 times once in his entire career and that was his first as a starter. Russell Wilson has been a starter in the NFL for 9 seasons. During that time, he's had lines that were crap, and lines that were at least pretty good. Russell Wilson has been sacked fewer than 40 times in a season exactly once, and that was his first year as a starter.

Russell Wilson Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Russ gets sacked a lot because Russ puts Russ in position to get sacked a lot, no matter how good or bad his OL may have been in any particular year.
 
I know, another thread related to the Patriots QB situation. But it's the offseason. What else are we going to discuss? If you don't like it, don't participate. We aren't sniffing another SuperBowl until we get that position figured out.
But according to sources Wilson is very frustrated at the Seahawks inability to get him decent protection. And rumor has it they nearly traded him a couple of years ago for a high draft pick so they could draft Josh Allen.My first though was 4 or 5 years of Wilson here would be awesome, depending on what we would have to give up for him. But if recent trades are any indication trading for a good QB is prohibitively expensive. He also wants say in personnel matters which rules us out anyway. Then again, maybe they could at least let him pick his own WRs in the drat. Couldn't do any worse than Bill. But seriously, it should be an interesting scenario to watch play out. It wasn't that long ago that they were riding high and considered a lock for the SuperBowl. People forget the season is 16 games long.
The NFL is starting to remind me of the NBA. Nobody is happy anywhere for more than a couple of years. Rodgers, Wilson and Watson- all miserable.
 


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