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Bryant and Bledsoe defending that play: not exactly formidable.


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Link to those posts?
Okay let me show them:
Mac Jones is a much smarter QB than Josh Allen though. Mac can improve his arm strength. Allen can't get smarter.
You just watched the GOAT beat out Bledsoe (a guy with superior physical tools) for the starting job and outclass every QB in the league for two decades (many of whom had better physical tools) on his way to dominating the league through sheer will, competitiveness and work ethic. But somehow in your mind, Mac will never be better than or as good as a guy who's won nothing. Yet here you are to lecture everyone on what makes a good QB. Right after ignoring what happened here for 20 years.
We do not know whether Jones will be a franchise QB, but to say he won't be one is short sighted. Look at Joe Burrow. He is very similar to Jones down to people questioned his arm strength last year. And now now he is in the Super Bowl.

Yes, Jones has some limiting physical characteristics. He will never have Josh Allen's cannon arm. But he can develop his arm strength to make people not question his ability to throw the ball down the field like Burrow answered those questions this year with a much improved arm in his second year.

Jones cannot do anything about his height. But that is the only physical characteristic that cannot improve.

But Jones has a lot of the intagibles that few QBs have. He throws with anticipation and into tight windows. He reads the field better than most rookies do. He can go throw his progressions quickly and has a quick release. Those things you have or you don't. You can hone those skills, but if you don't have them you are likely going to have a short career. I think Zach Wilson may be in that category. A monster arm who wants to hit a homerun on every play.
Maybe a better comparison would be year one Josh Allen to year one Mac Jones. Lets see. Allen threw for just over 2000 yds. Mac threw for just over 3800. Mac threw for 22 TD's, Allen had 10. Alllen had 12 picks, Mac had 13. Mac Had a 67% completion percentage, Alllen had a 52%

Now after his FOURTH year Allen has blossomed into an elite QB. THAT's the guy you want to compare a rookie to. Not fair on any level. But by ANY measure Mac has had a MUCH more successful rookie year than Josh Allen had. Lets see where he is in 3 more years and THEN compare.
Mac Jones' first year is very comparable statistically to Josh Allen's second year. Allen's breakout year was year 3. By an amazing coincidence, that was the year Buffalo brought in a true #1 WR in Stefon Diggs.

I have no doubt Jones can rise to that level with real talent to throw to. What scares me in NE's ability to get that talent.
Jones is a better athlete than he gets credit for. He’s not Russell Wilson but he’s close to Aaron Rodgers in terms of mobility.

That's some

That's not getting into the Mac -> Brady comparisons
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