New Deion info from Felger (Merged: Branch and his agent plan to sue)

[DefenseRules]

Re: New Deion info from Felger

An additional piece of info is that the arbiter who will be hearing the grievances is the law professor from UPenn who was going to rule in favor of Terrell Owens in the San Fran/Balt/Philly fiasco before the principals worked it out. not a good sign, but the circumstances aren't comparable.

But there is a difference. TO's agent forgot to file his papers for free agency. HE WAS A FREE AGENT. BRANCH is not. I didn't hear one complaint about that 5 year deal during the 4 years that he was on this team. Why is it a problem now when it wasn't a problem in 2002,2003,2004 or 2005.
I have never seen more warped thinking. Branch and his agent believe that the 5th year of that contract should not exist. The Pats should have let his sorry arse ROT at home, rather than tell him to do anything. If he loses, I hope they let him ROT.

 

[MagicMarker]

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I'm not sure how much of that isn't just posturing.

Remember the old saying,

The lawyer with the facts on his side hammers on the facts.
The lawyer with the law on his side hammers on the law.
The lawyer with neither the facts or the law on his side hammers on the table.

He's just trying to get the Patriots to trade him, and he has nothing else.

 

[RAWKY]

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I guess i have a question....

if in fact the CBA is a legal agreement and the hope is that it is, considering the entire NFL depends on it...what court will allow a law suit over it rights if binding abritration is agreed to by the parties...ie NFL and the Players union....

Or will this be a personal loss law suit outside the paramiters of the CBA like a personal injury suit?

Which, if allowed to go forward, would subject every employer in the nation too law suits for potential loss of income from other employers due an employee already being under contract to thier present employer.

 

[PonyExpress]

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Here's an article that now has that info:
http://patriots.bostonherald.com/patriots/view.bg?articleid=156056

 

[RAWKY]

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Yes this is what was meant when one of those close to Dieon said "He is going to pull a TO."

How sad for him.

 

[Bobs My Uncle]

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From day 1 of this fiasco it's been the intent of Chayut to force the Pats to trade his client so that all of this mess will simply go away. This recent revelation is simply part of that process. I wish the Pats had turned a blind eye to Chayut from the get go but unfortunately they didn't and chose to play along with him. It'll be interesting to see if Chayut succeeds in finding a way to get Branch out of NE. If he does he'll certainly earn his commission and probably gain a bunch of new clients in the process.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

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This is getting so weird that I can't help but wonder if the NFL won't try to broker some kind of trade just to make it go away. The suing that sounds nuts and ******ed but when you're in the courts, anything can happen and players having the precedent to sue to get out of a year (or more, I guess) of a contract they no longer like isn't something the NFL can want. Again, it sounds nutty and to any kind of well thinking person would get laughed out of court - but even though the liklihood is very small, the repercussions of a win for the player here must really make the NFL want this to go away.

What a psycho this player has turned out to be and who would have guessed

 

[PonyExpress]

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There's no reason for the Pats to trade him until next offseason. Then the market will be larger and the chances of acquiring a good draft pick are increased. Now, just hang onto him and let him stew until he shows up with his tail between his legs. Maybe in the interim he'll fire his agent and sign on the dotted line.

 

[Bobs My Uncle]

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This is getting so weird that I can't help but wonder if the NFL won't try to broker some kind of trade just to make it go away. The suing that sounds nuts and ******ed but when you're in the courts, anything can happen and players having the precedent to sue to get out of a year (or more, I guess) of a contract they no longer like isn't something the NFL can want. Again, it sounds nutty and to any kind of well thinking person would get laughed out of court - but even though the liklihood is very small, the repercussions of a win for the player here must really make the NFL want this to go away.

What a psycho this player has turned out to be and who would have guessed

Personally I think it's brilliant what the agent Chayut is doing for his client. He's forcing the Pats ( or the league to force the Pats) into trading his client before his contract runs out so that both can make more money when all is said and done.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

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Personally I think it's brilliant what the agent Chayut is doing for his client. He's forcing the Pats ( or the league to force the Pats) into trading his client before his contract runs out so that both can make more money when all is said and done.

I think the Patriots are probably laughing more than feeling forced into anything. And the league can't force them into anything either. All the league can do is, behind the scenes, try to find a team to give the Patriots what they want for the player.

 

[PonyExpress]

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Personally I think it's brilliant what the agent Chayut is doing for his client. He's forcing the Pats ( or the league to force the Pats) into trading his client before his contract runs out so that both can make more money when all is said and done.

You're forgetting one thing. The Pats are under no obligation to trade Branch. If they simply hang onto Deion, and he sits out until week ten, he'll have lost 1 million dollars, his entire salary for the year. Then the Pats can franchise him next year, and the agent has accomplished squat. That is the most likely scenario. Is Chayut brilliant then?

 

[bakes781]

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I don't see how any1 can defend the agent here. I figured that after getting offers from Seattle & NYJ that would have reopened the door to the negotiating table, but it's done just the opposite. The Pats are obviously not obligated to make a deal. Deion is obligated to report on week 10. The Pats hold all the cards & the agent is clearly doing his client a disservice in the long run.

 

[CrazyDave]

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I can't believe the league coud'nt schedule a hearing before saturday. WTF?
Let's get this over with for cryin out loud.

 

[Bobs My Uncle]

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You're forgetting one thing. The Pats are under no obligation to trade Branch. If they simply hang onto Deion, and he sits out until week ten, he'll have lost 1 million dollars, his entire salary for the year. Then the Pats can franchise him next year, and the agent has accomplished squat. That is the most likely scenario. Is Chayut brilliant then?

Not as brilliant as securing a trade I suppose. But not too bad as franchise money isn't chump change. Even if one has to lose some short term coin to get it.

I suspect that it is the intent of Chaut to force the Pats to trade Deion so this mess goes away. Failing that I think Chayut is banking on the league coercing Kraft into settling this (ie trading Branch) for the good of the league. Thru the help of the Patriots I think Chayut is well on his way to accomplisng his goal. Had the Pats simply remined silent thru all of this then this mess wouldn't be where it's at.

 

[Julius]

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I just thought of this.

If they sue, Branch will be essentially suing for the difference between 2 seperate contracts.

One contract will be a contract he never signed, and the other will be a contract he didn't honor!

Hilarious!

That sums it up very nicely..thanks for the laugh.

 

[emoney_33]

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Had the Pats simply remined silent thru all of this then this mess wouldn't be where it's at.

Yup, all the pats had to do was remain silent and Deion/Chayut would have magically seen the light and negotiated...


Sorry but I disagree, the pats have done nothing wrong in my eyes. The brat camp didnt' want to negotiate, the brat camp wants #1 wide receiver money but wants the pats to take a 2nd round pick for him, the brat camp doesnt' want to report to training camp, the brat camp is acting like a spoiled little brat that is whining because he didn't get his way.

 

[Bostonian1962]

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I just thought of this.

If they sue, Branch will be essentially suing for the difference between 2 seperate contracts.

One contract will be a contract he never signed, and the other will be a contract he didn't honor!

Hilarious!

I personally think that all players involved in trade discussions should be paid additional monies by which ever team didn't want to do the trade. If neither side wants to do it, they should both pay.

Branch really hired himself a crackpot agent, didn't he?

 

[RAWKY]

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Now, just hang onto him and let him stew until he shows up with his tail between his legs. Maybe in the interim he'll fire his agent and sign on the dotted line.

Won't happen DB has SEEN THE $$$$$ MONNNNEY $$$$$ and he believes the Pat's are trying to SCREW him out of it.

In his mind he is already spending it and he is not about to let go of this orange he has a hold of.

Interesting point in Felger article is,

DBs attorney said "DIEON is not comming back until this is settled"

That tells me he is not going to be back week ten unless he does so against his lawyers advice.

This is just the begining of the sad process.

 

[patpatriot]

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The article states that it is not Chayut who is making this lawsuit threat but Kessler the lawyer for the NLFPA! This is clearly posturing meant to force the pats to trade DB and take inferior compensation. I think the Pats and the rest of the owners should hold firm even if DB never plays another down for the Pats. He can sit and contemplate his career as his lawsuit proceeds through the courts at a predictable glacial pace. For christ's sake...let's play some football already!

 

[Ahriman]

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With this bit of info, if true, my stance has changed on Deion and his situation.

I've been pretty adamant that Deion is the one who is to be held responsible because his agent works for him. However, there seems to be something underhanded going on here. I recall some news getting out a couple of days ago where the Jets got in on the Branch talks as per Chayut's request, or as a favor to him. Now Chayut is advising that they sue the Patriots for the difference in Branch's current salary with the one the Jets supposedly offered?

I'm not one for conspiracies here, but something doesn't smell right. Either Deion is really a spiteful person or this agent is up to something ugly.