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LaMont Jordan is better than LoMo

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Morris out-shined Maroney? Morris played in 5 games, 3 of which he had Faulk as his back-up.

Sorry, but I think you are greatly over-stating Morris' effectiveness last year.


Offense became unbalanced after Morris went down last year. BB believes in balance but after Morris went down this Offense became very pass happy. We played right into the Giants hands in the SB. Even though they were blitzing they knew we didn't have a RB we could make the First Defender miss or move the pile. Very good cut back Runner's with Speed can exploit Aggressive Defense's ie....Parker - Sproles and Westbrook. Lomo can't carry any of those RB's jock. BB have taken the necessary precautions with Lamont Jordan just incase Morris went down. I mean come on BB won two SB's with Antowain Smith as his running back.
 
Jordan was a human plowshare out there. He parted defenders with brute force. I LOVE seeing that out of a runningback! Honestly, Jordan is probably better than Maroney at this point. However the entire reason we have our depth is so that our RBs can rotate and stay fresh. I say keep the rotation going. Morris has also been running well, so don't forget him either.
 
As I've been saying, I think Jordan was one of the biggest pick-ups in the offseason if not the biggest (provided he doesn't get hurt) considering how things have unfolded in the first two weeks and how injuries will most likely affect the RB corp. And I really don't care who the starting RB is or who should get the majority of the carries. We have three very solid to excellent RBs in a rotation. Throw Faulk into the equation on draws or as another change of pace/look back and this corp is ridiculously deep. I can't think of any other RB corp in the league as deep as the Pats'. They all offer a different look and bring their own set of strengths and weakness to their styles and as the season further unfolds, I trust BB and the coaching crew to take best take advantage of these match-ups.

Let's keep in mind that Sammy looked great last week despite what his rushing totals might have been and for those who insist in bagging on Maroney, recall the playoff games against Jax and the Bolts last year. He had excellent games in crunch time against two stout rush defenses. He'll be fine and rip up some yards in many games this season.
 
I would say they are way too different to say one is better then the other
 
Biggest problem with Maroney is that he's thinking too much. He doesn't hit the line of scrimmage like Morris and Jordan does. I don't know if Maroney's uncomfortable with the scheme or just doesn't get the concept of the zone blocking the Pats are playing. You can't, however, doubt Maroney's talent. The guy has the speed, quickness, illusiveness and power (despite his smaller size).

There is no question he is better in space, but as we all saw last year at the end of the season, Maroney can get dirty inside and be effective as well.
 
So, what is the problem? Why is he consistently out played by guys like Sammy Morris? Why does Lamont Jordan look like the better back?

Don't make excuses about the OL, Jordan and Morris are running behind the same OL and ae getting positive yards. Remember this is the nfl and a moments hesitation can be the difference between a tackle for a loss and a gain of 3 yards.

Maroney needs to focuson positive yards first and make the big play second.

Sorry dude but you need to check some stats before posting Morris isn't getting it done in the same number of carries as LoMo he has less yards. How is out played? How is sammy more positive yards? After all he is behind the same OL and rushing against the same DL that is not as tired as when Jordan ran.

Jordan is getting the job done and it's great to see but he is a downhill runner he isn't going to make big plays he is going to beat on defenders make steady yards. That style of running is becoming less and less common
look at all the back who have came in to the league and done well recently AP quick, agile with a bit of strength doesn't run over many people and keep going. Matt Forte makes people miss when he gets the space. Chris Johnson speed and makes people miss when the hole was there. If LoMo gets the hole I think he could do some of the as he did vs KC.

There have been very few big hard hitting back coming out of college over the past few years lynch at buffalo does it sometimes like that but he is one of few of the past few draft classes i can think about.

I would love to see Jordan start and beat up on defenders and then have LoMo come in when there hurting to give us bigger yards.
 
Hmm... Maroney gets reps against the FRESH defense. Jordan takes 3rd string reps against the tired worn out defense.

Jordan does better than Maroney. So, clearly Maroney isn't good.

No. Jordan DOES better than Maroney, therefore, IMO, he IS better than Maroney.

This opinion is not based on one game and I am not a Maroney basher you knee jerk piece of crap.
 
Hey everyone, take a deep breath and chill. The Pats are blessed with five (counting Heath) backs who each bring different skills to the game. Jordan was a terrific pickup, but don't count out LM. He'll contribute a lot this year.

And the last time I checked the First Amendment, everyone has a right to post- even if they disagree with you.

The running back depth we have is a great thing. I fully expect all of the RBs to contribute.
 
No. Jordan DOES better than Maroney, therefore, IMO, he IS better than Maroney.

This opinion is not based on one game and I am not a Maroney basher you knee jerk piece of crap.

Since it's not based upon one game, I'm assuming it's based upon their careers. Maroney has a better YPC than Jordan. Furthermore, Jordan's only had 100+ carries 3 times in his entire career, and he never averaged even 4 ypc during any of those 3 seasons. Maroney, on the other hand, has had 2 100+ carry seasons in his first two seasons in New England, and he's averaged better than 4 ypc both seasons.
 
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I'd like to see Jordan starting with LoMo as a change of pace-homerun hitter, then Morris should be able to punish defenses in the 2nd half as they'll be worn out.
 
Since it's not based upon one game, I'm assuming it's based upon their careers. Maroney has a better YPC than Jordan. Furthermore, Jordan's only had 100+ carries 3 times in his entire career, and he never averaged even 4 ypc during any of those 3 seasons. Maroney, on the other hand, has had 2 100+ carry seasons in his first two seasons in New England, and he's averaged better than 4 ypc both seasons.

Good stuff. It will be interesting to see how they compare this year if they get similar numbers of carries behind the same offensive line.
 
Never ceases to amaze me, guy has one good game and all the sudden he's a pro bowler.

I like him too, but come on.
 
All the Maroney bashers have said nothing about Morris who was even worse, 8 carries for zero yards. The Jets defensive front is much improved and their strategy was to stop the run and make Cassel beat them, expect this strategy every week.
 
All the Maroney bashers have said nothing about Morris who was even worse, 8 carries for zero yards. The Jets defensive front is much improved and their strategy was to stop the run and make Cassel beat them, expect this strategy every week.

This is precisely the reason why LaMont did better than Maroney. Lawrence needs the pass to set up his runs, Jordan runs it down your throat when its obvious you are running.

Also, everyone seems to like to say that Maroney has "break away speed", and he is fast, and blah, blah. I really don't care what he can do, I just wanna see him do it! Tom Brady can throw 60 yard bombs to just about any skill level receiver. He can, and he does. Maroney can do amazing things, but does he do them more than a few times a year? Hell, Michael Vick has the athletic ability to do just about anything. But yet he sucked as a QB.
 
This is precisely the reason why LaMont did better than Maroney. Lawrence needs the pass to set up his runs, Jordan runs it down your throat when its obvious you are running.

Also, everyone seems to like to say that Maroney has "break away speed", and he is fast, and blah, blah. I really don't care what he can do, I just wanna see him do it! Tom Brady can throw 60 yard bombs to just about any skill level receiver. He can, and he does. Maroney can do amazing things, but does he do them more than a few times a year? Hell, Michael Vick has the athletic ability to do just about anything. But yet he sucked as a QB.

You do realize that your argument is 180 degrees out of phase, right?
 
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