It seems inevitable that we will have to beat Denver on the road at some point in order to win SB

[TB_Helmet]

It will all come down to injuries. Sadly, the Pats will be missing some key players in the regular season game and any playoff matchup with Denver. But the Broncos will be missing some players of their own. If we can get lucky and minimize that number like we did in 2014, we'll be fine. But any assumptions about either team's record will be proven false because of players who are on the field now, but won't be in November and later.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

How many times does Denver have to kick our ass in Denver before patsfans wake up and realize we don't do well there regardless of any excuses. so many pats fans are in denial about playing in Denver.

Homefield is essential

 

[Bradyking12]

How many times does Denver have to kick our ass in Denver before patsfans wake up and realize we don't do well there regardless of any excuses. so many pats fans are in denial about playing in Denver.

Homefield is essential

Which is why us losing to the Bills more than likley cost us the season and Denver will go on to go 19-0 and Brady will begin to suffer from PTSD which will carry on into next season which will have Brady putting up his worse numbers before being cut and do to the excessive stress he will kill his wife then himself in a murder suicide and back to football Jimmy G will refuse to play do to the Patriots not starting him against the bills which could of prevented all of this and then the patriots will fall into the world of bad luck and will deal with numerous losing seasons putting an end to the once great dynasty that started crumbling when the bills deafeated us and some point in the 2020s Robert will sell the franchise unknowley to a jets fan who will destroy whats left and put us in irreversible cap hell and debt and will sell it off and the new owner will relocate the team to another state under a new name putting an end to Boston/new england ever having a football team, and every thing we've ever accomplished will be erased from football history books.

 

[FourierSeries]

How many times does Denver have to kick our ass in Denver before patsfans wake up and realize we don't do well there regardless of any excuses

At least 2-3 times with a healthy squad.

Also, 10, 6 (in OT), and 2 point victories doesn't constitute "kicking our ass." Kicking ass is what we do to them every time they come to Foxboro.

Don't let facts get in the way of your irrationality, though.

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

And they will.

The last 3 games in Denver involved absurdly injured Patriot teams (2013, 2015, 2015).

2013 - no Mayo, Wilfork, Gronk, Talib. After Edelman & Amendola, Brady was throwing to Austin Collie, Aaron Dobson and Matthew Mulligan.

2015 reg season game - no Collins, Hightower, Edelman, Lewis, Amendola, Gronk (out in 4thQ/OT). Brady had guys like Asante Cleveland, Keyshawn Martin, Brandon Bolden, Scott Chandler, Brandon LaFell and Chris Harper out there on offense. On top of that, that game had some of the most awful calls in any sporting event I've ever seen.

The AFCCG also had some big flukes like the mixed XP and Stork giving away the snap count.

Basically.

I hate to say this, because while the weapons on our offense are a match-up problem for Denver, I think the victory will go to the healthier team, and whoever has home-field advantage.

 

[Joey007]

I'm confused. You say it looks inevitable then that much can change.
Fact is both teams have 12 games to play and a lot can happen.

Maybe I should've reworded the thread title. Was meaning that it was likely, not inevitable.

 

[TBR]

Which is why us losing to the Bills more than likley cost us the season and Denver will go on to go 19-0 and Brady will begin to suffer from PTSD which will carry on into next season which will have Brady putting up his worse numbers before being cut and do to the excessive stress he will kill his wife then himself in a murder suicide and back to football Jimmy G will refuse to play do to the Patriots not starting him against the bills which could of prevented all of this and then the patriots will fall into the world of bad luck and will deal with numerous losing seasons putting an end to the once great dynasty that started crumbling when the bills deafeated us and some point in the 2020s Robert will sell the franchise unknowley to a jets fan who will destroy whats left and put us in irreversible cap hell and debt and will sell it off and the new owner will relocate the team to another state under a new name putting an end to Boston/new england ever having a football team, and every thing we've ever accomplished will be erased from football history books.

Lol this may be the longest run-on sentence I've seen in years.

 

[luuked]

Why?

Because right now it appears that, the winner of that late season matchup at Denver will likely have the top seed. Meaning: if we lose that matchup, the road to the SB will likely, once again, go through Denver.

Not saying this is set in stone, much can change over the next few months. But that looks to be where it's headed this year at this point.

You boldly claim something and then just a sentence later make it all relative by saying we don't know what will happen.

So is there actually point to your thread/post at all ? If you feel convinced enough about something to make a thread about it then at least own it and don't weasel out just in case..

 

[luuked]

I'm with you. Denver denial is becoming a thing with some pats fans. The Pats and Broncos will likely be the top 2 seeds five years in a row. There is a good chance they win 3 out of the last 5 superbowls.

The Broncos are giving up 5.6 yards per pass & 61.3 opposing QBR. That is unbelievable in the pass happy era right now.

You can't lose that many games as a team with that type of pass defense.

The NFL season will come down to whether Dante/OL can give Brady enough time vs. them. They can't cover our TE duo + other weps unless they drop 8 in coverage and get to Tom with 3 players like last year.


You call it Denver denial, I see Denver as a hugely opportunistic team that can lose _any_ game against _any_ team if the other team doesn't give them any of those cheap, brainfart turnovers. They are already on a statistically improbable run of continued turnovers ever since Kubiak took over.

Yes, some of those turnovers are well deserved due to great CB play or incredible pass rushes but there were a ****ton last year as well as this year that were essentially gifted to them. They can't hang against a team with any good offense without them.

Pats or Broncos are taking the lombardi barring injuries. Enjoy the rivalry. Regardless of how the Vikings are playing no NFC team comes that close to us two IMO.

I agree that the AFC will come down to the relative health of the Pats, Broncos and Pittsburgh. I think you are overlooking Seattle in the NFC. If Jimmy Graham can sustain a level of play like in the last game over the rest of the season they will have a pretty difficult offense to defend once Wilson can move again on top of one of the better defences.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

*IF* the Pats are healthy going into that game, they should be able to win relatively comfortably... even in Denver. Denver's corners are best used against long striders and speedsters. They're not built to cover the short, shifty, receivers that get in and out of their breaks quickly as New England's receivers do. On top of that, I don't see how they cover both Gronk and Bennett.

For denver it's a question of if they can get to brady like they did in the AFCCG. If they can do that their corners won't matter.

 

[aluminum seats]

Steelers,seahawks etc obviously will just fall by way side and let us win so we can go to denver to find out who will play in the superbowl.

You're being sarcastic, aren't you.

 

[Patriot Missile]

For denver it's a question of if they can get to brady like they did in the AFCCG. If they can do that their corners won't matter.

The good thing is it's only week 5. Under Dante, the oline improves as the season moves along. Usually has them playing their best football come December.

 

[SVN]

I think a lot of pats fans dont seem to want to enjoy the season and take everything for granted. Like talking about going to SB via denver in week 4. Inspite of seeing with their own eyes every year how thing change. Last yr we were coasting until injuries hit. Who knows what will happen so why sweat it every time denver plays well ?

 

[FCB02062]

100% agree with op. thing about denver is their defense is just incredible and they have the biggest home field advantage in football. In 2004 the Pats traveled to the #1 D and blew them out, but I think Denver's a different animal than that Pittsburgh defense. And, that Pats team could line up and run it....this team can't. When teams know the Pats are running it's Blount for no gain or minus yards, with the 04 team it was Corey Dillon for 3 or 4....

 

[Froob]

We'd beat down Denver for sure at home. We really ****ing blew it last year not taking homefield.

 

[The Brandon Five]

100% agree with op. thing about denver is their defense is just incredible and they have the biggest home field advantage in football. In 2004 the Pats traveled to the #1 D and blew them out, but I think Denver's a different animal than that Pittsburgh defense. And, that Pats team could line up and run it....this team can't. When teams know the Pats are running it's Blount for no gain or minus yards, with the 04 team it was Corey Dillon for 3 or 4....

 

[The Brandon Five]

I think it is inevitable that we beat them again in their house.

 

[PatriotsPimp136]

Our pass rush has to get better also coverage. I'm thinking we might have to run the table until that denver game.