Patriots Rumor Is Mike’s job security in any danger now? (Vrabel Allegedly Caught Kissing Russini in New Photos 6-Years Ago)

[Ross12]

Patriots' Christian Gonzalez Breaks Silence On Mike Vrabel Scandal | NESN

New England Patriots cornerback Christian Gonzalez spoke on Mike Vrabel amid his scandal, voicing his support of his head coach.

nesn.com

This is really the only thing in the article that isn’t just a recap of the story so far:

“We aren’t going to speak on what we talked about inside the building, but that's my coach," Gonzalez told the media on Saturday. "That's who I go out there and play for. He’s proven what he can do as a coach. That’s my guy, and I ride behind Vrabes any time of the day."

 

[Real fan 02]

This is really the only thing in the article that isn’t just a recap of the story so far:

“We aren’t going to speak on what we talked about inside the building, but that's my coach," Gonzalez told the media on Saturday. "That's who I go out there and play for. He’s proven what he can do as a coach. That’s my guy, and I ride behind Vrabes any time of the day."

Yes correct! That was just a response to Bill in regards to a post content about Vrabel not being able to reach the player's amidst the recent off field news.. nonetheless it appears to be dying down and I'm happy to be focusing on football and not off the field BS...

 

[WazzuWheatfarmer]

 

[Bill Lee]

Patriots' Christian Gonzalez Breaks Silence On Mike Vrabel Scandal | NESN

New England Patriots cornerback Christian Gonzalez spoke on Mike Vrabel amid his scandal, voicing his support of his head coach.

nesn.com

That's good news.

NESN chose a fairly strange way to end the article though.

The Patriots have shown full support for him amid the scandal. Vrabel's relationship with Russini and the scandal does not break any rules established by the NFL, and really has nothing to do with his ability to coach the team.

However, if he is missing team activities as a result of the scandal, then it suddenly becomes an issue.

This just seems to be bad editing. He did in fact miss one day of the draft. I presume that's the 'missing team activities'. So their logic says it is an issue, yet the previous sentence suggests they think it isn't an issue. Which is it? Or one could look at it as the sentence is written to suggest something in the future would make it an issue, i.e. more missed team activities, is that their concern?

Yes correct! That was just a response to Bill in regards to a post content about Vrabel not being able to reach the player's amidst the recent off field news..

Someone suggested this thing had no impact on any of the players, I gave one case where I thought it probably did. Now we have another where it didn't, which I think is safe to presume is the majority opinion.

nonetheless it appears to be dying down and I'm happy to be focusing on football and not off the field BS...

I agree.

 

[Real fan 02]

That's good news.

NESN chose a fairly strange way to end the article though.



This just seems to be bad editing. He did in fact miss one day of the draft. I presume that's the 'missing team activities'. So their logic says it is an issue, yet the previous sentence suggests they think it isn't an issue. Which is it? Or one could look at it as the sentence is written to suggest something in the future would make it an issue, i.e. more missed team activities, is that their concern?


Someone suggested this thing had no impact on any of the players, I gave one case where I thought it probably did. Now we have another where it didn't, which I think is safe to presume is the majority opinion.


I agree.

Agreed with everything stated Bill. So many things came into play here.. Vrabel's a dam good coach and was highly sought after prior to us getting him. He came in and resettled the organization and the culture Wolf raves about what he did coming in to a 4-13 roster. I believe Vrabel's a man of honor meaning that if he's Fs up he admits he Fd up and that's what anything in life... anyhow it's a non football off the field related matter that got exploited by the media. Like many of us I'm happy to be focusing on football and how we can get back to the superbowl

 

[Ross12]

That's good news.

NESN chose a fairly strange way to end the article though.



This just seems to be bad editing. He did in fact miss one day of the draft. I presume that's the 'missing team activities'. So their logic says it is an issue, yet the previous sentence suggests they think it isn't an issue. Which is it? Or one could look at it as the sentence is written to suggest something in the future would make it an issue, i.e. more missed team activities, is that their concern?


Someone suggested this thing had no impact on any of the players, I gave one case where I thought it probably did. Now we have another where it didn't, which I think is safe to presume is the majority opinion.


I agree.

The way I read it earlier was that Vrabel said he “wasn’t sure” if he would miss any future activities that involved the players, and so the writer is saying that if he did, this would become an issue. But apparently if he doesn’t then it’s not an issue. It is just bad writing.

 

[reflexblue]

I totally get the rights/nose/swing your arm point, and I get the argument about the Pharisees. It's based on the needs of the gospel writers, though in combination with whatever historical info survives in the gospels and might be gleaned from the historical earliest letters of Paul, in the context of examination without assuming belief in the religion. (The same method is used all the time re: Judaism, and I am comfortable with it.)

The historical Jesus and early Christian history is only important here to highlight how fair or unfair the depictions of the Pharisees in the Greek bible are. It's pretty much agreed upon that there's an animus there against the Jewish authorities, and an effort to make the Christian religion acceptable to Rome -- e.g.., Pontius Pilate's unlikely reluctance to deal harshly with Jesus, the "tradition" of setting one prisoner free for Passover, etc. They do make the Pharisees the villain of the story. The historicity is of course a whole field of study (as it is with historical views on Judaism, and scholars from all backgrounds are pretty savage about the storytelling freedom of those who put together the Hebrew bible.)

Here's how one religion professor explained the "Sadducees and Pharisees" in the context of first century Christian writings, especially those purporting to echo Jesus' actual words - Saying "O ye Sadducees and Pharisees" is sort of like a modern American saying "O ye Democrats and Republicans." They were the two main "parties" in the Jewish hierarchy. The Pharisees were always more numerous, and favored an interpretation of the law that everybody could embrace; the Sadducees were an elite, fewer in number, I believe more likely to be wealthy, and stricter in terms of adherence to the law. Critically, they held that you could only perform meaningful worship in the Temple in Jerusalem. No temple, no Sadducees. They also, if I recall my studies correctly, denied life after death, whereas the Pharisees were cool with varying beliefs on the topic (for example, a spiritual life to come and a physical resurrection, the same circle Christians have been squaring for a couple thousand years.)

I can't vouch for the extent to which the Jewish authorities of the first centuries were comparable to the Taliban. I wouldn't be shocked to learn that they still did some barbaric sh*t, but in practice, Jewish authorities rarely carried out death penalties (for example.) The Death Penalty in Jewish Tradition | My Jewish Learning

The famous "Eye for an eye" code we hear so much about was reduced to a monetary award system, similar to insurance payouts we hear so much about, but due from wrongdoer to an aggrieved party. I believe that also happened in ancient times, rather than the comparatively modern medieval era

By the way, I don't think it's a coincidence that the two child religions, which both preach that they have a new dispensation to universalize the religion of the God of the Jews, developed systems of enforcement that led to enormous persecutions. One simple explanation has nothing to do with "morality": They both achieved power at the level of empire. That's a huge enabler, if you have intolerant doctrine. Your local San Hedrin can't get together the resources to achieve what Christendom or Islam could, not to mention the toll they exacted vis a vis their coreligionists, when in-house disagreements occured.

Anyway, within a couple of centuries of Jesus' life, the Sadducees didn't even figure into things, although he never saw that happen in his lifetime.

This stuff will set off the same "authorities" who dictate to us all how we should feel about morality, and sorry if/when that happens. I don't have any problem, really, with Christians using the tropes of the Christian religion regarding the tag of "Pharisees"; it's more a "fun fact" point, although people do use the "Pharisees" language in such a way as to make it stealth-antisemitic (so probably there are some activists who might make more of it.) In any event, I know that no harm was intended and that there's no hidden antisemitic agenda on your part!

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

Now this is the PFiV I remember

 

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[captain stone]

Now there's tampering allegations... Kinda suspected it would come down to this eventually...

 

[sb1]

Now there's tampering allegations... Kinda suspected it would come down to this eventually...

I think the league probably sniffed around about this already and found nothing then put out the statement that there's no investigation. It's only a couple of salty Eagles fans and Patriot haters on twitter still banging that drum.

 

[XLIX]

Now there's tampering allegations... Kinda suspected it would come down to this eventually...

The tampering allegations - mostly from Philly fans - have been there since day 1. They are desperately trying to get some traction but it just isn't taking hold.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

I've heard of getting in trouble for kissing a girl but this is ridiculous