Content Post Idle thoughts: the narrative edition. The lull before the storm.

[WhatJustHappened]

Let's TRY to keep it cool in here.
We ALL love the same team.
Personally? I see us winning this game, I don't see a way we lose.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

My strategic keys to the game:

1. Pats interior D-line vs their weak right guard and average center. It's harder to give a guard and center extra help than it is a tackle. Going to be a significant constraint on Seattle the whole game - no QB can cope well with pressure up the middle. Likely also means they have to run wide.
2. On the other side of the ball, can we get them out of nickel. Seattle practically never plays base, and that gives them a big advantage in defending passes.

 

[JoeSixPat]

The Bonito who had 0 tackles, 0 assists, 0 sacks and 0 pressures?

Yes - Campbell looks like he's getting moved all over the field and has looked that way in other playoff games as well.

He's actually doing a GREAT job tying the guy up - he's not holding the line - he's moving backwards pretty consistently - but he's still tying up the edge rushers who look like they're having they're way with him.

He's kindof "letting them have "his" way"

It's really the OL version of "bend but don't break"

The real test for this game won't be at LT - I think we're going to see LG a prime point of attack so this is Wilson's opportunity to shine

 

[TommyD4207]

Yes - Campbell looks like he's getting moved all over the field and has looked that way in other playoff games as well.

He's actually doing a GREAT job tying the guy up - he's not holding the line - he's moving backwards pretty consistently - but he's still tying up the edge rushers who look like they're having they're way with him.

He's kindof "letting them have "his" way"

It's really the OL version of "bend but don't break"

The real test for this game won't be at LT - I think we're going to see LG a prime point of attack so this is Wilson's opportunity to shine

This is exactly right. And Campbell has a part in this too, but it's Leonard Williams stunting over Wilson. He and Campbell have to jam that stunt. They do it a lot (Seattle) - and Campbell and Wilson have had good and bad games with it, but Wilson really seems to struggle with it if it's a dominant interior tackle like Williams.

Byron Murphy is actually a better tackle on the other side than Williams, but if you watch Seattle, all their stunts tend to run through Williams.

They don't do straight up rushing with 4 like the Texans do, because their EDGE rushers aren't nearly as good. It's a lot more like the Chargers line, to be completely honest, and the Patriots struggled with that quite a bit.

 

[Uptown]

They ain’t winning, but a bit of context on Seattle’s scheme & how they'll matchup against us…The New England Patriots…in the first year of a literal rebuild…with a second year MVP caliber/candidate QB…first year head coach/coordinator…DC that had prostate cancer…heavy roster overhaul…top 5-10 in both scoring & defense….first ever 9-0 team on the road…who snatched the division crown from last year’s MVP…QB’s wife bakes for us…has a WR who’d literally play shoeless if the rules permitted him to….who beat 3 top 8 defenses in a row in less than ideal conditions this postseason (about to 4..) In Super Bowl 60.

 

[n1997y]

Ok. You're getting a tad nasty lol. Just sports talk. Zero comprehension is a bit strong and silly.
No. The team succeeded on the whole but nothing I said can be disputed. Maye has basically zero on the scale of knowledge and experience compared to a majority of QBs. He's riding a team succeeding wave and making less mistakes at the right time to get this far. I'm not saying anything wrong or false. im not saying they won't win or that he's bad. Simply the truth. He has very little experience and that can count against you in a freaking super bowl. It's a experiential fact of life and football.

You need to be unbiased and consider something. Would he have done better in better weather last week and the week before. Or did the weather help the Pats vs the other team.
Maybe, maybe not.

One week to see

I honestly wondered if you were a fan of some other team here to diss on the Pats, your post was that bad.

You spewed a bunch of rookie stereotypes as though they describe a QB who has been widely considered as the league MVP runner up for the second half of the season. And now that I called you on it you’re doubling down that he “has basically zero on the scale of knowledge compared to a majority of QBs”. SMH. Zero comprehension may be too flattering.

Maye pulls a tremendous heads-up play to slide while scrambling and simultaneously making eye contact with his coach to get a time out for a FGA with one second left in the first half against the Broncos, and you ignore that because you’ve decided “ It's too early for him to slow it down in his mind, on the field.” That’s either zero comprehension, or not even watching what you’re pretending to be knowledgeable about, just like I said.

“I'm not saying anything wrong or false.”. Agreed you’re not saying anything false, because it’s not verifiable fact, it’s just your opinion stated as though it’s fact. But you definitely said lots that’s wrong.

It’s “just sports talk” when you talk crap about the MVP candidate home team QB, but “getting nasty” to tell you your post sucks? Effing snowflake keyboard warrior, go back to your own team’s board. You joined a week ago just to stir **** up. Well done, troll.

 

[Jim Plunkett]

I honestly wondered if you were a fan of some other team here to diss on the Pats, your post was that bad.

You spewed a bunch of rookie stereotypes as though they describe a QB who has been widely considered as the league MVP runner up for the second half of the season. And now that I called you on it you’re doubling down that he “has basically zero on the scale of knowledge compared to a majority of QBs”. SMH. Zero comprehension may be too flattering.

Maye pulls a tremendous heads-up play to slide while scrambling and simultaneously making eye contact with his coach to get a time out for a FGA with one second left in the first half against the Broncos, and you ignore that because you’ve decided “ It's too early for him to slow it down in his mind, on the field.” That’s either zero comprehension, or not even watching what you’re pretending to be knowledgeable about, just like I said.

“I'm not saying anything wrong or false.”. Agreed you’re not saying anything false, because it’s not verifiable fact, it’s just your opinion stated as though it’s fact. But you definitely said lots that’s wrong.

It’s “just sports talk” when you talk crap about the MVP candidate home team QB, but “getting nasty” to tell you your post sucks? Effing snowflake keyboard warrior, go back to your own team’s board. You joined a week ago just to stir **** up. Well done, troll.

What the hell man? Do you want nothing but an echo chamber? Nothing I'm saying has anything to do with being a fan of any team. It's basic knowledge about experience and non experience and you're creating an entire us against them thing.
You know what a stereotype is? Its because it happens over and over.
It has nothing to do with what team he's on. I just don't worship second year starters.
He's an MVP candidate? Wonderful. He may simply drop off next year. No need to make it personal.

 

[n1997y]

What the hell man? Do you want nothing but an echo chamber? Nothing I'm saying has anything to do with being a fan of any team. It's basic knowledge about experience and non experience and you're creating an entire us against them thing.
You know what a stereotype is? Its because it happens over and over.
It has nothing to do with what team he's on. I just don't worship second year starters.
He's an MVP candidate? Wonderful. He may simply drop off next year. No need to make it personal.

Nothing personal. I just told you your posts are crap. That’s not personal it’s just honest.

Personally I admire your consistency. It’s hard to be consistent, but you’re doing it.

How can it be personal? don’t know anything about you except you showed up on this board less than two weeks ago, posted crap and got butthurt when I said it’s crap.

Now you’re saying I want an echo chamber? when you’re the one getting bent out of shape because I’m not echoing your groundless bs, lol.

You said Drake is too young and inexperienced to process fast during game action. I pointed out a specific play showing otherwise. You’ve totally ignored that evidence to the contrary of your claims. That’s why I’m saying your posts are lame, not anything personal.

Three posts from you so far, zero examples of specific evidence supporting your assertions. That’s not personal, that’s not wrong, it’s just truth.

 

[Jim Plunkett]

Nothing personal. I just told you your posts are crap. That’s not personal it’s just honest.

Personally I admire your consistency. It’s hard to be consistent, but you’re doing it.

How can it be personal? don’t know anything about you except you showed up on this board less than two weeks ago, posted crap and got butthurt when I said it’s crap.

Now you’re saying I want an echo chamber? when you’re the one getting bent out of shape because I’m not echoing your groundless bs, lol.

You said Drake is too young and inexperienced to process fast during game action. I pointed out a specific play showing otherwise. You’ve totally ignored that evidence to the contrary of your claims. That’s why I’m saying your posts are lame, not anything personal.

Three posts from you so far, zero examples of specific evidence supporting your assertions. That’s not personal, that’s not wrong, it’s just truth.

No, it's childish idiocy. You're insulting someone over nothing but a difference of a opinion about a sports debate and trying to challenge decades of common sense. A second year pro is nothing more than a second year pro. He may have talent but nothing is proven yet. Pretty simple logic and reality equation.
Please stop acting like I'm hurting your family or your job.
I haven't even decided who I think wins.
I've gone back and forth twice.
Have a nice week, sir.

 

[DaBruinz]

Had it occurred in great weather, I would be more optimistic.

How many rushers would be able to get to a QB when they are slipping and sliding everywhere? I don't even know if they were able to see at certain points.

Snowy weather like that actually favors the Edge and LBs in the pass rush against Pocket QBs. The problem comes when a QB goes mobile the way that Maye can. Such as when they called his run to the left side against the Broncos.


Personally, I love that @patfanken called out the people who were negative on Campbell and are still blathering about adding a LT and moving Campbell to guard in the Free Agency thread. They're the same ones who bought the BS that Matt Light would be moved to guard as well. They just never learn not to trust the pundits.

 

[rabidfireweasel]

Would he have done better in better weather last week and the week before. Or did the weather help the Pats vs the other team.
Maybe, maybe not.

One week to see

I think both are true. It doesn’t have to be one or the other.


I do think Drake Maye has been less accurate because of bad weather.

I also think the Patriots Defense has been incredible in the bad weather, where other QB’s have also struggled.

 

[DaBruinz]

Ok. You're getting a tad nasty lol. Just sports talk. Zero comprehension is a bit strong and silly.
No. The team succeeded on the whole but nothing I said can be disputed. Maye has basically zero on the scale of knowledge and experience compared to a majority of QBs. He's riding a team succeeding wave and making less mistakes at the right time to get this far. I'm not saying anything wrong or false. im not saying they won't win or that he's bad. Simply the truth. He has very little experience and that can count against you in a freaking super bowl. It's a experiential fact of life and football.

You need to be unbiased and consider something. Would he have done better in better weather last week and the week before. Or did the weather help the Pats vs the other team.
Maybe, maybe not.

One week to see

Everything you said can be disputed.
Your claim that Maye is basically a zero on the scale of knowledge compared to other QBs is absolutely ridiculous. Just because he's not a 17 yr vet doesn't mean he has zero knowledge. He's in the hardest offense to learn and performing well beyond expectations. Or did your MISS that he ended the season with the Best Completion Percentage. You don't do that if you have "zero knowledge".

Yes, you are saying things that are wrong and false. Because MAYE has as much to do with the success of the team as anyone. It's pure ignorance on your part to claim otherwise. No. Your statements are not "simply the truth".

The problem with you is that you think that there are some special rules for the Super Bowl. On the field, all the rules are the same.

Considering how garbage of a take you have, you shouldn't be telling anyone to be unbiased. You attempting to muddy the waters by talking about the weather in the games as if experience would have changed the result is even more proof of your ignorance.

 

[DaBruinz]

Yes - Campbell looks like he's getting moved all over the field and has looked that way in other playoff games as well.

He's actually doing a GREAT job tying the guy up - he's not holding the line - he's moving backwards pretty consistently - but he's still tying up the edge rushers who look like they're having they're way with him.

He's kindof "letting them have "his" way"

It's really the OL version of "bend but don't break"

The real test for this game won't be at LT - I think we're going to see LG a prime point of attack so this is Wilson's opportunity to shine

JSP - As a Tackle in pass protection, "holding the line" get's you beat and your QB sacked. This idea you're pushing that Campbell was getting moved all over the field is severally flawed. An OT has to move with the Edge rusher and keep himself between the Rusher and the QB. That's what mirroring is all about.

It's not "bend, don't break". It's being a good OT. Keeping your QB clean. Not allowing him to feel pressure from the man you're blocking.

 

[DaBruinz]

What the hell man? Do you want nothing but an echo chamber? Nothing I'm saying has anything to do with being a fan of any team. It's basic knowledge about experience and non experience and you're creating an entire us against them thing.
You know what a stereotype is? Its because it happens over and over.
It has nothing to do with what team he's on. I just don't worship second year starters.
He's an MVP candidate? Wonderful. He may simply drop off next year. No need to make it personal.

*ROFLMAO* Your comments are ridiculous. You think @n1997y was making it personal? No. He wasn't. That's you being overly sensitive and being unable to handle that this board has a ton of very knowledgeable fans. Several of whom have called you out on your ridiculous statements.

I'll flat out tell you that you have ZERO knowledge of what constitutes experience and non-experience. That your flapping your gums spewing a whole lot of nonsense.

Contrary to your posts, Maye has shown that the game "slowed down" quite a bit this season. That's despite the complexity of the offense. If you actually had knowledge of the game, you'd understand that.

The fact that you're doubling and tripling down on your knowledgeless comments is just proof that you're the one who thinks your stuff don't stink.

 

[DaBruinz]

No, it's childish idiocy. You're insulting someone over nothing but a difference of a opinion about a sports debate and trying to challenge decades of common sense. A second year pro is nothing more than a second year pro. He may have talent but nothing is proven yet. Pretty simple logic and reality equation.
Please stop acting like I'm hurting your family or your job.
I haven't even decided who I think wins.
I've gone back and forth twice.
Have a nice week, sir.

What is childish idiocy is your reaction to someone calling out your baseless statements. You're sitting there, throwing a tantrum because people here aren't dupes who buy the BS your selling.

As @n1997y pointed out, you've offered ZERO evidence to support your claims. Your reaction has been to stomp your feet, throw a tantrum and make statements equivalent to "Because I said so". Your latest post above, you're resorting to ridiculous hyperbole and showing that your lacking in basic comprehension skills because @n1997y isn't acting in the way you claim.

To this point, you have not used experience, knowledge or logic or reality in your posts. You clearly do not understand what those terms actually mean.

 

[1960Pats]

Ok. You're getting a tad nasty lol. Just sports talk. Zero comprehension is a bit strong and silly.
No. The team succeeded on the whole but nothing I said can be disputed. Maye has basically zero on the scale of knowledge and experience compared to a majority of QBs. He's riding a team succeeding wave and making less mistakes at the right time to get this far. I'm not saying anything wrong or false. im not saying they won't win or that he's bad. Simply the truth. He has very little experience and that can count against you in a freaking super bowl. It's a experiential fact of life and football.

You need to be unbiased and consider something. Would he have done better in better weather last week and the week before. Or did the weather help the Pats vs the other team.
Maybe, maybe not.

One week to see

The result of this game will prove who scored the most points in this game. That's all. If they lose it won't invalidate their AFC championship and if they win it won't end the crying by the msm.

Tom Brady went to his first SB with less experience than Maye has now. That doesn't mean anything either.

I have a feeling that the Pats may surprise people... AGAIN.

 

[Jim Plunkett]

What is childish idiocy is your reaction to someone calling out your baseless statements. You're sitting there, throwing a tantrum because people here aren't dupes who buy the BS your selling.

As @n1997y pointed out, you've offered ZERO evidence to support your claims. Your reaction has been to stop your feet, throw a tantrum and make statements equivalent to "Because I said so". Your latest post above, you're resorting to ridiculous hyperbole and showing that your lacking in basic comprehension skills because @n1997y isn't acting in the way you claim.

To this point, you have not used experience, knowledge or logic or reality in your posts. You clearly do not understand what those terms actually mean.

So basically you're illiterate or a narcissist who just contradicts and copies people.

I said - inexperience leads to less success a majority of the time. That's a basic universsl truth. Lol at calling what I said baseless.
What tantrum? Where? Who's lashing out? Who's insulting anyone? Calm down.
You're creating issues in your head that don't exist.

 

[DaBruinz]

So basically you're illiterate or a narcissist who just contradicts and copies people.

I said - inexperience leads to less success a majority of the time. That's a basic universsl truth. Lol at calling what I said baseless.
What tantrum? Where? Who's lashing out? Who's insulting anyone? Calm down.
You're creating issues in your head that don't exist.

Considering that you've shown a complete inability to comprehend what others are telling you and the fact that you're projecting your inadequacies onto others, your opinion of me is as worthless as your opinion of Drake Maye.

The fact that you don't think you lashed out at @n1997y is proof as to where the problem lies.

You never said that inexperience leads to less success. So, now you're flat out lying.

I haven't created any issues that don't exist. That's actually YOU. Since you claimed that people wanted an echo chamber. Since you claimed that Drake may isn't understanding that much game film so that the game slows down in his mind.

Here are just some of the blathering moronic statements you've made:
"There's no way Maye is retaining that much knowledge or making that many reads. It's too early for him to understand that much game film and slow it down in his mind, on the field."

"Maye has basically zero on the scale of knowledge and experience compared to a majority of QBs. He's riding a team succeeding wave and making less mistakes at the right time to get this far."

"He has very little experience and that can count against you in a freaking super bowl"

Maye has 30 games of experience. That's more than Tom Brady had when he went to the Super Bowl. That's more than Marino had when Marino went to the SB in his 2nd Season. That's 2 games fewer than Russell Wilson had when he went to the Super Bowl in his 2nd Season. It's just 5 fewer games than Patrick Mahomes had for his 1st SB.

The narcissistic and arrogant one is you since you're the one stomping your feet and claiming "Because I said so" without actually providing a shred of evidence to support your claims.

 

[SVN]

Well, two things. 1) The Pats were going up against 3 of the top 5 defenses, and 2) The awesome terrifying Seattle D gave up 479 yards to the Rams.

Rams WR core is off the charts. Plus a division team, they know them well. Even the game they lost inOT in the regular season they moved up and down on them. Hard to compare the knowledge and experiance of stafford vs maye who is just getting started.
Brady was on the radio show in seattle and said the Seattle defense spins the dial so much that it needed a precision and experience of someone like stafford to pick them apart.

 

[DaBruinz]

Rams WR core is off the charts. Plus a division team, they know them well. Even the game they lost inOT in the regular season they moved up and down on them. Hard to compare the knowledge and experiance of stafford vs maye who is just getting started.
Brady was on the radio show in seattle and said the Seattle defense spins the dial so much that it needed a precision and experience of someone like stafford to pick them apart.

Baker Mayfield isn't Matthew Stafford, yet Mayfield and the Buccaneers hung 38 on Seattle in Seattle. The Bucs did it without Mike Evans and an ineffective Chris Godwin.

I love Tom, but the Rams won against the Seahawks with Stafford going 15 of 28 for 130 yards and 2 TDs. Stafford LOST to the Seahawks going 29 of 49 for 457 yards, 3TDs, and 22 of 35 for 374 yards and 3TDs.. That's 821 yards of offense and 7 passing TDs in 2 games. And they LOST. That speaks volumes about the Rams defense.

With McDaniels, Thomas Brown, Vrabel, and Ashton helping to break down film I see no reason why Maye can't be up to speed on how the Seahawks defenses "spin the dial". It's actually been one of Maye's better qualities. Not to mention his ability to perform under pressure.