Patriots Injury News Dugger played with misdiagnosed high ankle sprain this season

[dliverey44]

The man who should be called to answer questions is long-time trainer Jim Whalen.

Hes been here since 2002 and this is the first time i've heard a player come out and say their injury was misdiagnosed.

I suspect it's not him we should be pointing fingers at....

To be fair, if there is swelling present during imaging it can hide things like a hairline fracture, avulsion fracture and several other conditions. Isn't Whalen the one that caught Barmores blood clots?

 

[RobertWeathers]

in that timeframe, what are the results in terms of games and snaps lost and how it compares to league averages, etc.? I had a perception that under BB the Pats are generally conservative about bringing guys back. I didn’t notice much of a difference last season but with the Peppers situation maybe they brought back Duggar sooner than they otherwise would. Certainly also I wonder about how Barmore’s case was handled.

Not sure. Every team has injuries. I don't know how we compared.

Barmore's case is an unknown. Andrews also had blood clots and he sat the entire year. Not sure how similar/different ?

 

[RobertWeathers]

Deron is gone. Vrabel hired his guy from Tenn. The rest of the strength staff stays though.

Oh yea thats right. I have to assume Deron will not stay on as an assistant.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I’m giving all of them a pass on this season. I’ll judge them next season with a real NFL coaching staff.

 

[RobertWeathers]

To be fair, if there is swelling present during imaging it can hide things like a hairline fracture, avulsion fracture and several other conditions.

Agree but in that circumstance they wait for the swelling to go down or do an x-ray.

Isn't Whalen the one that caught Barmores blood clots?

Not sure. What I do know is Whalen has been here forever and his rep is impeccable.

Either he or his team f-ed up or he was overruled.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I’m giving all of them a pass on this season. I’ll judge them next season with a real NFL coaching staff.

So am I. That whole team was a clown car last year.

 

[Huckleberry1]

So am I. That whole team was a clown car last year.

I have never witnessed a worse coaching job. They would have been better off with no coach,

 

[irishfanatic]

I have never witnessed a worse coaching job. They would have been better off with no coach,

That is because there was no "coaching".

 

[TinhWoodhead]

NFL notes: Patriots captain Kyle Dugger opens up about lost 2024 season, ankle injury, Mike Vrabel

In a Herald exclusive, a Patriots captain opened up about his toughest year yet and another lost season for the franchise.

www.bostonherald.com

Explains a lot. Who diagnosed him? Mayo?

Mayo Clinic

 

[Ray Ray 717]

Never been a big fan of his. Awful contract. Let’s move on and acquire better talent.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Agree but in that circumstance they wait for the swelling to go down or do an x-ray.

Not sure. What I do know is Whalen has been here forever and his rep is impeccable.

Either he or his team f-ed up or he was overruled.

Wouldn't the actual doctor be responsible for that diagnosis and not strength and trainer guys?

 

[RobertWeathers]

Wouldn't the actual doctor be responsible for that diagnosis and not strength and trainer guys?

Correct.

My point is Whalen knows what/why Duggar was misdiagnosed.

 

[DarrylS]

Wouldn't the actual doctor be responsible for that diagnosis and not strength and trainer guys?

I agree, to blame Mayo for everything that went wrong with this team is erroneous, remember Coach Belichick said many times that he was not a doctor and would listen to what the doctor said.
Deron was not a doctor either.. so I suspect that the decision for him to play fell to someone with a medical degree.
If not, then the Pats would face huge liability if they made that decision.

Duggar is better than he was last year..

 

[TheRainMaker]

That and Barmore coming back prematurely are just more reasons why Mayo got canned.

 

[hornetfb85]

Alright so add him to the list of things we need for a better 2025 defense
1) Barmore, Bentley, Dugger, and M. Jones to be healthy.

2) Draft Abdul Carter

3) Find a true FS

4) Peppers keeps his nose clean

5) Sign a true #2 CB

 

[signbabybrady]

Alright so add him to the list of things we need for a better 2025 defense
1) Barmore, Bentley, Dugger, and M. Jones to be healthy.

2) Draft Abdul Carter

3) Find a true FS

4) Peppers keeps his nose clean

5) Sign a true #2 CB

You're not thinking big enough given the amount of cap space we have.