Drew Brees Defends Brady

[Deus Irae]

Saints got railroaded worse than we did tbh. Can you imagine if Belichick was suspended for a year? Had they found one shred of dirt on him, that's exactly what would have happened.

They don't need evidence. They took multiple draft picks and big money, even while acknowledging that the team neither did anything wrong nor knew of anything being done wrong.

The league is at the point where it's making **** up. The owners didn't care, as long as it was happening to the Patriots, and they were all for it when it was done to stick it to the Redskins and Cowboys for not joining in on the collusion. They've just seen it happen to the Chiefs, though, and they may finally be waking up.

Don't bet the farm on it, but we might actually see progress in this area, precisely because the owners have now seen that evidence is irrelevant and that they could be next.

 

[VectorPrime]

Who's to say they won't manufacture dirt on him in the near future and do exactly that. Nothing shocks me anymore.

I'm convinced that Belichick was originally the target for deflategate but they realized they couldn't nail him for it so the went for Brady.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

I never understood bountygate and Incognito until defamegate caused me to really question the nfl. If you just follow the headlines the NFL story dominates. I didn't care enough to investigate myself at the time. Seems that's the only way to find any truth in some matters. The NFL is too good at manipulating major sources for many of these truths to ever reach the casual fan. Too easy for them to dismiss our pleas as blind homer faith when the only media desent is from people in the comments sections. Wish there were more journalists out there.

Yep. Most of us became so well-informed on deflategate because we read, re-read, and deeply analyzed court filings, transcripts, reports, rebuttal reports, outside scientific analyses, and so on...literally so many pages that it makes "War and Peace" seem like a short story.

Journalists are by-and-large too lazy to do that. So is the average fan of another team, who for the most part relies on the synopses of the lazy journalists, or relies on preconceived gut feelings.

I never imagined that the Saints were shafted or Incognito's problems were blown all out of prportion, until my eyes were opened by the pure scummy evilness of Goodell in deflategate. So in part I can sympathize with fans who remain uninformed, since seeking the truth can be hard in a world without much in the way of quality journalism.

 

[Kontradiction]

Most fans are idiots. Their perspective, or lack thereof, insures that. We see the same thing here, on this very board, when something happens involving another team or another team's player(s).

It's even worse in cases like this, because of the pathetic, all but unquestioning, deference to apparent authority that far too many Americans have become accustomed to granting.

That's not just a statement for Americans, Deus. Appeal to authority, with no second thought whatsoever before said appeal, happens all over the world. Without bringing this topic down into the political arena, I'll just leave it at that.

 

[SalemPats]

Wish more players used their heads for more than a hat rack like him. Then again, it took him a year to speak out also, so....will more players smarten up and start to speak up?

Drew Brees: 'I’m Not Going To Trust Any League-Led Investigation When It Comes To Anything'

Drew Brees is a class act. Aaron Rodgers supported Tommy last year.

Where's Peyton?

 

[ivanvamp]

Players should have been howling from the rooftops from day one. I like Brees, but we're long past the time where this should have been done.

Amen. Where were these guys a year ago?

 

[fair catch fryar]

i believe richard sherman is on the players side too.

in the DC market, there is some local sports show with former redskin brian mitchell and yesterday he ranted about how brady got railroaded. his co-host, some journalism major schumck bought the nfl story 100%.

i think if you ask most players current and former they see that goodell is public enemy #1

The players are the biggest schmucks for voting to accept the current CBA as it is written.

 

[Froob]

Nice words but, would have been nice if Brees wasn't helping their argument a year ago about how he can feel the difference in PSI...still a good guy though but...c'mon dude...

 

[Froob]

Drew Brees is a class act. Aaron Rodgers supported Tommy last year.

Where's Peyton?

Rodgers wasn't himself this year with his properly deflated footballs .

 

[fair catch fryar]

They don't need evidence. They took multiple draft picks and big money, even while acknowledging that the team neither did anything wrong nor knew of anything being done wrong.

The league is at the point where it's making **** up. The owners didn't care, as long as it was happening to the Patriots, and they were all for it when it was done to stick it to the Redskins and Cowboys for not joining in on the collusion. They've just seen it happen to the Chiefs, though, and they may finally be waking up.

Don't bet the farm on it, but we might actually see progress in this area, precisely because the owners have now seen that evidence is irrelevant and that they could be next.

I'm betting that they'll burn it down before they come to some reasonable and collective solution though. Probably too much pride and animosity going around at this point.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Players should have been howling from the rooftops from day one. I like Brees, but we're long past the time where this should have been done.

Agreed. And, since, Deus, you tend to be ahead of the Curve on a lot of issues (including the last CBA), you no doubt called the League out over Bountygate.

But, I have to confess that, like many others, I just stood by while the Saints got screwed. So, "better late than never." Did Brady ever come out against the Bountygate sanctions?

 

[Deus Irae]

Agreed. And, since, Deus, you tend to be ahead of the Curve on a lot of issues (including the last CBA), you no doubt called the League out over Bountygate.

But, I have to confess that, like many others, I just stood by while the Saints got screwed. So, "better late than never." Did Brady ever come out against the Bountygate sanctions?

I thought the Saints got screwed, but I also noted that it was only possible (on the players' side of things, not the coaching side) because they caved on the CBA. Here's a quote on the player's screw up side of it, from back in 2012, which contained a link to a now non-existent earlier post from 2007:

Here's just one example, from back in 2007:

The union needs to get this changed in the next CBA, they need to get the punishments all noted down as guidelines and followed, and they need to insure that overzealous commissioners like the current one don't have the power to make these unilateral rulings without checks and balances.

OT: Vilma walks on out Bounty-Gate hearing

I don't remember Brady commenting on Bountygate, though, so I can't answer that part of your post. As for me, I always defended the notion of a 'big play' pool, but not a 'bounty' pool, and I've always opposed Goodell's ability to just make up whatever the hell he wants.