Did N'Keal Harry really muff the punt?

[Rob0729]

Why was he chasing after the ball after it bounced? He couldn't make a decision, panicked and then chased the damn ball after it hit the ground.

Bill sending him out there was a massive blunder. Glad it didn't cost them the game.

The fact that it was a mistake to have him returning punts is something that we all can agree is indisputable.

 

[zipster9]

My guess is it was cold enough that he did not feel the "brushing of the ball" on his helmet...

 

[TheRainMaker]

The fact that it was a mistake to have him returning punts is something that we all can agree is indisputable.

There will be some idiot that will argue it was a good idea.

 

[catent]

There will be some idiot that will argue it was a good idea.

It was a good idea in principle but why they chose Harry for that role is beyond me.

 

[Dingleberry]

It was a good idea in principle but why they chose Harry for that role is beyond me.

Yup, the short return man along with the guy back in regular position is a BB constant in these conditions. Kevin Faulk was usually the front guy in the early days.

Harry was a very good PR in college. We can say, "but he hasn't done it in the pros." This is true, but I am sure he has done it plenty in practice though.

Bill was trying to steal more field position if there was a short punt. It is a good chance. Unfortunately, Harry began wobbling around the bouncing ball like a newborn deer.

 

[venecol]

But if they initially called it a muffed punt, there would be no discussion because there is no indisputable evidence that shows it didn't hit him in the head. There just isn't indisputable evidence (at least in my mind) that shows it did hit him in the head. Which means the call shouldn't be overturned.

So this thread is about getting into your mind to convince you of why the call was made but even though every single person agrees that it was, you'll continue to say there wasn't indisputable evidence because in your mind there isn't and we all know how once you make up your mind about something there's no convincing you otherwise, so basically this is just a waste of time because no one wants to be in your mind dude.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Yup, the short return man along with the guy back in regular position is a BB constant in these conditions. Kevin Faulk was usually the front guy in the early days.

Harry was a very good PR in college. We can say, "but he hasn't done it in the pros." This is true, but I am sure he has done it plenty in practice though.

Bill was trying to steal more field position if there was a short punt. It is a good chance. Unfortunately, Harry began wobbling around the bouncing ball like a newborn deer.

Let's put to bed the myth that Harry is good at special teams or in yards after catch. He's not. Guy falls down easily.

Also, Meyers is not good at PR either. meyers is not Troy Brown.

Can JJ Taylor catch punts ??

 

[Dingleberry]

Let's put to bed the myth that Harry is good at special teams or in yards after catch. He's not. Guy falls down easily.

Also, Meyers is not good at PR either. meyers is not Troy Brown.

Can JJ Taylor catch punts ??

Umm, I never mentioned anything about Harry being good at special teams or YAC. In fact, I think these mysterious people perpetuating that myth is a myth itself. I even said he moved like a baby deer out there.

Let's call the Tin Man to come join your straw man. They can have a threesome with Dorothy.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Umm, I never mentioned anything about Harry being good at special teams or YAC. In fact, I think these mysterious people perpetuating that myth is a myth itself. I even said he moved like a baby deer out there.

Let's call the Tin Man to come join your straw man. They can have a threesome with Dorothy.

Sorry, it wasn't directed at you. It's just I was reminded of these plays in the past that used to force feed Harry on end arounds which never made sense. All predicated on the myth that he was a good returner and good in traffic. Nope. Probably the same rationale why they just tried him at punt returner again.

 

[sambam94]

Horrible play by Harry. Once he slipped and couldn't catch the punt, he should have gotten the heck out of there. Instead, he actually runs towards the ball like he had to get it for some reason. Just dumb.

 

[BTTA]

So this thread is about getting into your mind to convince you of why the call was made but even though every single person agrees that it was, you'll continue to say there wasn't indisputable evidence because in your mind there isn't and we all know how once you make up your mind about something there's no convincing you otherwise, so basically this is just a waste of time because no one wants to be in your mind dude.

That's not what's happening in this thread. Rob is saying that the call overturn didn't meet the standard of proof required. People are "arguing" back that they think the ball hit Harry's helmet. That's irrelevant to Rob's point.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Horrible play by Harry. Once he slipped and couldn't catch the punt, he should have gotten the heck out of there. Instead, he actually runs towards the ball like he had to get it for some reason. Just dumb.

When he did that I knew it hit him because he knew. He was there because BB says he has good hands, he must see that in practice and maybe he does but last night with the wind was too risky to put him out there.

 

[Rob0729]

That's not what's happening in this thread. Rob is saying that the call overturn didn't meet the standard of proof required. People are "arguing" back that they think the ball hit Harry's helmet. That's irrelevant to Rob's point.

Ah let him have his fun. His life is probably so miserable that the highlight of his day is trying to mock people he feels he is superior to on message boards. He probably spend an hour photoshopping that image thinking it would be a huge hit or get under my skin. The only thing he is doing is making an arse of himself. Let him. I don’t care.

 

[archstanton543]

? He was told to go out there by his coaches.

I know. It was dumb of them to put him out there.

Do you think I meant that he, of his own accord, just ran out there?

 

[BTTA]

I know. It was dumb of them to put him out there.

Do you think I meant that he, of his own accord, just ran out there?

Yeah, I did, as in "dumb of him" meaning he was being dumb.

 

[Triumph]

Why even have Harry out there?

I get expanding his role and all, but returners can make or break you.

 

[archstanton543]

Yeah, I did, as in "dumb of him" meaning he was being dumb.

Okay, I didn't phrase that correctly. Fair enough.

I know he didn't sub himself in on the play.

 

[Rob0729]

Maybe Belichick was expecting this putting Harry on punt returns, but maybe they should have tried this out against the Falcons rather than the Bills in a hurricane like winds.

 

[venecol]

That's not what's happening in this thread. Rob is saying that the call overturn didn't meet the standard of proof required. People are "arguing" back that they think the ball hit Harry's helmet. That's irrelevant to Rob's point.

It's just nonsense. Standard of proof? Come on man, it's the NFL. They'll do whatever they want. Wasting time pontificating about the letter of the rule over a subjective matter is nonsense. Didn't we learn a thing about what they did to the Saints with the non PI call? Everyone was in an uproar over it. What happened? Nothing. The NFL is a scumbag organization. They'll do whatever they want because they can. Oh, and the ball hit him on his face mask btw. There was clear evidence of it regardless of what dufus' mind tells him.

 

[Noexcusesfornumber5]

Which is BS to question in the first place. Hes talking about the rule, not the effect the end of play had on the field. And I do think the wind moved the ball. They showed it moving out of Bailey's hands punting,an I believe the same thing happened to Diggs for Buffalo. I don't know, maybe the coach is starting to figure out and test the player? It's not like he can draft 5 Laurence Bradys
every year.